ade towell

30 minutes ago, BenEricson said:

Purely image quality wise, the C200 or C300ii just looks way better though. The skin tones are close to Arri. It depends what you shoot I suppose.

That's just a matter of taste though, I'm a Canon shooter but happen to prefer the Eva and Varicam colour science. They all make beautiful images though so just depends whether you want to shoot predominantly RAW internal or you need more flexible edit ready codecs

1 hour ago, austinchimp said:

Canon, on the other hand, have been proven to deliberately hold back technology, and sit very conservatively in old tech with outdated specs, when we know they're sitting on things that could do better. Given how many people were invested in their systems, it's rubbed people up the wrong way.

As a person heavily invested in Canon lenses, this is the crux of it and my main irritation with them. I'm a Canon user and feel it is Canon that is holding back - for my uses anyway which are predominantly video orientated

Thanks for that, am presuming the DR in clog is a similar 12 stops as C100?

Is the full frame hd quality pretty sharp as well then, and much better RS than crop mode?

Good to hear that the hd cuts well with c100 - is this in full frame or crop mode? Do you have an example of it cut with c100, just a few seconds worth? My worry based on what I've seen so far was that the full frame hd is same old soft Canon mush they've been giving us for years in their dslr's and that you had to put it in crop mode to get better quality hd - but this mode has bad RS

Also what flavour clog is in the EOS-R - is it original clog of c100 or does it have clog2, 3?

I hear you, they've all got their quirks - I just feel I've been waiting far too long for Canon to give me a reasonably priced hybrid camera with decent hd to work alongside my C100. Not so fussed with 4k or 50p, just decent hd with clog - they should have been able to offer that years ago, tech has moved on

I don't wave the camera around either but RS is a real irritant for me that I feel shouldn't be so easy to provoke on a camera costing well over £2k in this day and age. 

but the terrible rolling shutter makes handheld a real issue. From what I've seen the sharper looking hd on the EOS-R uses the crop mode which has bad RS

I don't care about specs I'd be happy with a hd image that doesn't look soft next to my C100 and that I can use hand held without jello vision. Not much to ask in 2018 but not sure Canon is there yet... 

8 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said:

No but it can shoot full frame HD as well as full frame stills. None of the cheap 4k/60p cameras can. It was just my suggestion on "why".

Doesn't change the fact.

is a silly argument but no excuse to be releasing a camera with such appalling  wobble for so much money in autumn 2018. 

13 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said:

Yeah but let's not forget the a6300 which is way worse. Im not saying that makes it right, it doesn't. But we shouldn't let the others of the hook just because we found a fresher fish.

EDIT: forgot about the NX1 (easily done these days ), equally bad or even worse.

Sony A6300 was released 2 1/2 years ago, you can buy 5 of them for one EOS-R, and it has less of a crop

Fuji XT-3 ticks a lot of boxes

They certainly do and there's no Canon  I.s. lens I've used that has the same level of stabilisation as dual IBIS coming from Panasonic and Olympus and now it seems Nikon (Sony's is not so great). Canon need to get their arse into gear

17 hours ago, Geoff CB said:

Media Player Classic gives the best results for me on PC. 

Me too

6 hours ago, wolf33d said:

I wished. But getting tired of changing system and this mk2 will come in 2-4y. Wish I could stay with one brand and be done with it a few years. Latest rumors say no IBIS on A7SIII. It is starting to become a joke. We will have S1 with no video AF, A7S with no IBIS and rest of the world with no 4K60p. A joke that nobody wants to combine 4K60p FF with ibis with good AF...

Sony's implimentation of IBIS is about as 'good' as Panasonic's AF. Choose your poison. The NIkon looks the most well rounded of the bunch so far to me, be interesting to see how Panasonic goes with the new FF

49 minutes ago, Django said:

@ade towell EOS R is imo the best B-cam to C100. That is how I will be using it. C Log even has a "Cinema EOS Classic"  option to match C100/300 color matrix. You must use RF or quality L glass though to get most of it.

Judging from the few examples I've seen the Eos-r video is not very good and definitely not worth the £2750 they're asking if I want to use my ef and efs lenses (with variable nd adaptor).  I could buy 2 more c100's for that, and am really not wanting to invest in a new set of lenses on top. I'm better off keeping my Canon 750d for stills and using Panansonic gh2 as b camera for video (easier to match with c100 due to 750d video being soft and mushy) - was just hoping that by now Canon would offer a  decent reasonably priced hybrid so I wouldn't need to carry so many cameras

7 hours ago, Inazuma said:

Check out the Eos m50. It has better 1080p than most of canon's dslr's

thanks for that - I did check it out but from what I've seen is still soft compared to c100 and was hoping to be able to use clog on both cameras. Could you point me to any decent examples of m50 footage? Sorry for the off topic

Been looking, hoping, waiting for a decent b camera (that also takes stills) from Canon to cut with the c100 for what seems like forever - watching that video the EOS-r is still not it. Come on Canon, it is getting embarassing

I've used that 10-18mm EF-S lens on the c100 and it is plenty sharp enough

Was this shot 4k or 1080p, got to say it does look like good old soft Canon dslr footage - bit disappointing

Note's work is great but it's not with the new Pocket 4k

You 2 should get a room. So much sexual tension

5 hours ago, thebrothersthre3 said:

Definitely, the issue with Panasonic is the focus isn't very accurate, so the touch to focus can be useless at times for video. 

Have you actually used touch to focus on a GH5?

Has there been any testing of the rolling shutter in hd, it's awful in 4k even with the crop? Also if the hd is sharp enough to cut with c100, the usual Canon dslr hd is soft and mushy. Am trying to like this camera despite its limitations and price

Has there been much feedback on how the AF is with ef lenses and the adaptor for video and photography? As quick as native mount lenses or a bit clunky? Not interested in getting a whole new set of lenses

This is amazing news, and from what Kholi has said about his test footage with the Ursa Mini Pro 4.6K , 12:1 will be very usable...

Stuff you'll probably find exciting:

- Pixel Peepers will find a hard time locating differences between 3:1 and 12:1, tried breaking the compression at 12:1 and Constant Quality options with pretty intense scenes and was unable to. Believe it can be broken in post with heavy grades, but if you're planning that then just shoot 3:1 or 5:1. Genius.
- About an hour of footage shooting 8:1 or 12:1 to an 128GB card at 4.6K - no more raw complaints
- Just as much flexibility to beat on the image in post as Cinema DNG
- New update in camera has cleaned up my image in a massive way, FPN nearly vanished with a firmware update.
- New Noise Profile is very pleasing, never used NR before anyway, but profile is extremely awesome.
- Blackmagic cameras are all about motion, color, and defending the cameras on various forums. The new update has changed the motion in the camera to something even more buttery yet still cinematic. Check out how objects are rendered despite my horrible handheld shots. Motion Cadence nuts like myself will be pleased, detractors will say it's fake. Note: takes film grain beautifully.
- Raw controls in new Resolve for BRAW are awesome, very simple. Hard to mess up haha. Favorite little details: sidecar can be saved, export BRAW still, set black point

Ha this place is turning into a baiting zone