ade towell

Yes those anamorphic lenses aren't very sharp and there are some focus issues - am liking the look though

50 minutes ago, PannySVHS said:

@Cinegain, That guy has a great voice and lovely presence, very relaxing. How nerdy is that, to listen to a camera reviewer rather for the mellow vibes than for infos on cameras:) Would love to see some people to put the S1 and S1H cameras to cinema film use. One of the examples with the two bowlers had massively good color but mushy upload quality.

Here's the Vimeo version

Could do with the AF improving, firmware 3.0 seems to have made it worse than it was

what's really good about the M6 in comparison?

9 minutes ago, 1Ale82 said:

Actually if you count the 200 euro vlog update, this camera is about 1200 euro more than the S1, but if offer a lot more. By the way, I just checked cvp store and there is an offer with the XLR audio module included for free

£2999 plus VAT and with XLR module at CVP, that's cheaper than I thought it would be

Does that 16-55mm 2.8 have I.S. - can't see it listed anywhere - Sony's version of IBIS isn't good enough to use handheld without it

Camera wise yeah the XT3 is in a different league

1 hour ago, zerocool22 said:

Yeah intrested to see some great narrative/commercial/lit footage with it. The footage may look too clinical, but time will tell. Too bad its only prores raw through external recorder. Also a problem that you cannot even use prores raw in Resolve. So there is no point in even shooting prores raw right now. So BM has got them cornered in that department. 

Kinda sucks that they use SD instead of Cfast though.  

Yes not quite sure why SD is a problem, cheaper and reliable, never had one lose footage over the last 10 years or so.

This isn't clinical

Some pretty impressive rolling shutter results for the 6k as reported by Captain Hook on DVXuser

Full 6K : 19.73ms
5.7K crop : 16.26ms
2.8K crop : 7.98ms

It's ok I wasn't attacking it just letting Shell64 know not to expect too much - it is still very soft.

I had an m50 and tried using it exactly as you say as a b-cam to the c100 and the difference in quality and sharpness is pretty jarring. I found the good old Panasonic GH2 worked better when cutting between the 2. I haven't used a G7 but would imagine it is a fair amount sharper than the m50

In 4k it was sharper but still below the c100s hd, and the crop and RS are pretty considerable. But a fun camera for what it is and if it had ML I would still own one 

1 hour ago, Shell64 said:

Agreed. Especially if you only need 1080p. The quality is a lot better than previous low end canons and you get fantastic DPAF and canon colors. Part of me wants this over my g7 as I mainly shoot 1080p on it. 

I wouldn't say the quality is a lot better, is still pretty mushy on any kind of wide and lowlight is disappointing. Fun little camera though

I don't believe what most of the manufacturers claim either with regards DR, but having worked with the C100 and the Sony FS7 and a6300 I would say slog2 and 3 have a bit more DR to play with than clog. In 8 bit though, clog is much nicer to work with

ok thanks good to know, similar to the C100 then, I wonder if that's a limitation of the 8 bit internal

to be honest I thought slog2 held onto highlights better than clog on the C100 did. But the 8 bit was a problem with slog2 on the a6300 sometimes causing strange artefacts and banding, whereas 8 bit on clog seemed to work better.

10 bit slog2 and slog3 from the FS7 had way more highlight retention than the C100 in clog though

So you don't understand how DR is measured but came onto a thread about using manual focus to tell us all that Panasonic is deceiving us.

OK, as you were....

Ha yes have had to accept glasses as part of my life now, makes going between viewfinder and screen a little trickier.

I also now have XT3, will try your method and see if I can get used to it, can see AF being useful for tracking when only one person is in the scene

11 hours ago, thephoenix said:

Isn't there a pad to select where to focus ?

There is but it felt like a very clumsy way to choose where to focus, maybe I need to keep at it but it didn't feel very intuitive - I do enjoy focusing manually, feel like I'm more in the scene.

I realise tapping the screen is a better way to choose focus but I prefer to use viewfinder and my eyes struggle with a screen up close - that's what happens when you reach 50

1 hour ago, thephoenix said:

focus peaking

I meant how can I tell AF where to focus when using the viewfinder - focus peaking for sure when manual focusing

As I said I like to use the viewfinder especially when going handheld, always have done - how do I tell it what to focus on then?

I don't really use a gimbal, I generally prefer handheld aesthetic and feel they are way overused.

I trust my manual focus skills more than I do the cameras AF

14 hours ago, mercer said:

It looks good. Are you missing those Canon colors from the 5D3? Panasonic greens can be a pain in the ass. But I think you did a good job. Great detail. The music, shots and color grade gave the piece a melancholy, nostalgic feel. Your model is very pretty as well.

It is the Film Convert giving the greens that yellowy look, had the same issue when using FC with Canon C100 particularly some of the Fuji presets, Kodak ones seemed a bit more balanced but they all messed with colours too much for my liking

5 hours ago, Skip77 said:

This makes no sense at all. You want great IBIS but can live with bad AF to do run n gun video.  

I prefer to focus manually but can't make a lens magically stabilise itself. Make sense?

When handheld I like to use the EVF - how do you tell the camera which part you want to focus on when using AF? I don't trust it to read my mind

1 hour ago, currensheldon said:

Nope - I meant the S1 is vastly superior compared to the other cameras it goes up against. Granted, it’s a bit more expensive so maybe it really is in a field by itself. 

The EOS-r is the most expensive here in the UK - the S1 is £150 cheaper than the EOS-r, seems much better value to me. Z6 you can get for £720 less than the Eos-r - also great value

The S1 to me is the benchmark right now for image quality, colour, DR, IBIS, lowlight and with great 10 bit internal 

17 hours ago, Oliver Daniel said:

Yep, bargain grey import indeed - still worth it if you’re not VAT registered. They are legit as I’ve had a few lenses from them. 

Would you still be able to get the free V-log key if it's grey import, would you be able to claim it via UK offer?

Their website is full of goodness