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1st rule of fight club...don't talk about fight club. 

1st rule of fight club...don't talk about fight club. 

1st rule of fight club...don't talk about fight club. 

Well, I do tend to do that more than make movies, so...

The GH5 currently is worth it for one single reason alone. 4k at 50p / 60p. If you need it. And I do.

Your opinion is well reasoned.  However, if someone uses certain gear and they enjoy it, that's perfectly fine.  In this hybrid market it's all a compromise anyway.

Your opinion is well reasoned.  However, if someone uses certain gear and they enjoy it, that's perfectly fine.  In this hybrid market it's all a compromise anyway.

My go to lens is still currently the FD 55mm f1.2 on a cheap Chinese speedbooster.   The longer focal length, the lower contrast, the imperfections of the booster... Certainly makes footage look less digital-y.
It's a decent solution if it fits the look you want.
Plus, if you really want to push into lowlight shots, it'll take you there.  A f1.2 on a speedbooster becomes something like a f0.9 --Not with a super sharp image, but you can do it.  I think it looks good to my eye stopped down to f2.
I also appreciate the mass of the lens.  It gives a welcome heft to the smaller M43 cams I use.
FWIW, I shoot mostly doc footage and still wouldn't consider using autofocus.  I get why it's handy, but I'm old school.  I like the aesthetic of a camera operator actively trying to find focus as things are happening.  That's not a flaw to me, that's an authentic cinema-verite look with contextual legacy.
Finally, the one thing I don't like about FD, is the twist-lock mount system.  PITA when trying to swap lenses on the fly.  If you plan on doing lens swaps as quickly as possible, would recommend Nikon lenses instead.

It's one of the golden rules of the internet:  by posting contrarian ideas it offers those making such claims a sense of authority.  i.e. they know something we don't know therefore they're smarter and better than you.
Hey, if I'm being honest, I'm guilty of this too.  I can't visit nofilmschool without this urge bubbling to the surface.  It's a techniques that gives blowhards like me a shortcut to sounding (self) important.
At it's core, I think, this sort of thing is a matter of insecurity.  Haters gonna hate, imaright?

It's one of the golden rules of the internet:  by posting contrarian ideas it offers those making such claims a sense of authority.  i.e. they know something we don't know therefore they're smarter and better than you.
Hey, if I'm being honest, I'm guilty of this too.  I can't visit nofilmschool without this urge bubbling to the surface.  It's a techniques that gives blowhards like me a shortcut to sounding (self) important.
At it's core, I think, this sort of thing is a matter of insecurity.  Haters gonna hate, imaright?

It's one of the golden rules of the internet:  by posting contrarian ideas it offers those making such claims a sense of authority.  i.e. they know something we don't know therefore they're smarter and better than you.
Hey, if I'm being honest, I'm guilty of this too.  I can't visit nofilmschool without this urge bubbling to the surface.  It's a techniques that gives blowhards like me a shortcut to sounding (self) important.
At it's core, I think, this sort of thing is a matter of insecurity.  Haters gonna hate, imaright?

It's one of the golden rules of the internet:  by posting contrarian ideas it offers those making such claims a sense of authority.  i.e. they know something we don't know therefore they're smarter and better than you.
Hey, if I'm being honest, I'm guilty of this too.  I can't visit nofilmschool without this urge bubbling to the surface.  It's a techniques that gives blowhards like me a shortcut to sounding (self) important.
At it's core, I think, this sort of thing is a matter of insecurity.  Haters gonna hate, imaright?

Panasonic GX85 or G85.  Nice to have the IBIS.
If you really want to stay cheap, pick up used old glass and a dumb M43 adapter.
If you want better low light capability, you can get an inexpensive chinese speedbooster with a fast old prime.

Panasonic GX85 or G85.  Nice to have the IBIS.
If you really want to stay cheap, pick up used old glass and a dumb M43 adapter.
If you want better low light capability, you can get an inexpensive chinese speedbooster with a fast old prime.

I've been hearing the term "snowflake" and "safe space" a lot from the alt-right...  Not sure what side of the political spectrum you're on, but regardless, c'mon now.  
At the least, you can just walk away from here and never return.  If you don't like it, jump.
Still, it's just one dude's thoughts for goodness sake.  Even if you ignore the rants, there's other good info here.  Besides, what's exactly wrong with hearing other's political opinions?  I'm pretty sure it doesn't make one's brain explode.
Does it?

I've been hearing the term "snowflake" and "safe space" a lot from the alt-right...  Not sure what side of the political spectrum you're on, but regardless, c'mon now.  
At the least, you can just walk away from here and never return.  If you don't like it, jump.
Still, it's just one dude's thoughts for goodness sake.  Even if you ignore the rants, there's other good info here.  Besides, what's exactly wrong with hearing other's political opinions?  I'm pretty sure it doesn't make one's brain explode.
Does it?

I would have figured the threat of seeing my blurred nude body would be enough to deter the TSA's full body scans, but apparently I was wrong.

I would have figured the threat of seeing my blurred nude body would be enough to deter the TSA's full body scans, but apparently I was wrong.

Yes, that old NTSC still looks great because those projects were co-lit by a colleague of mine that's really good at doing such.  Also, most of it was magic hour shooting.  Which is why, in my anecdotal experience, resolution and dynamic range ain't the main thing.  It's wonderful to have, but when you got solid craftspeople on set doing a great job, any decent camera should look wonderful.
Consider Arri.  Everyone loves the Alexa, right?  Footage looks awesome, etc.  Well, why wouldn't it?  Pros are using it.  People that access the upper echelon of cameras tend to be people that are already pretty good at what they're doing.  It looks great because it's shot great.
In the up coming months we're going to see a bunch of mediocre footage from the GH5. (along with some crazily impressive stuff too)  The weak footage won't be because it's a bad camera, but because it's affordable enough to be in the hands of people with rudimentary skills making mistakes and bad choices.

Agreed.
I've utilized IBIS effectively for my low-end corporate shoots.  Unless one is a complete moron shooting video, ya figure out what looks good and what doesn't and make it work for your production.
No, you don't use IBIS as a replacement for a tripod.  If you're doing loooong-take event videography, (boring, but whatever) you most likely get a tripod.  
On the other hand, if you attempting to knock out a ton of quick but elegant b-roll shots, you can make IBIS footage look great.  With decent IBIS I quickly and easily learned how to emulate a dolly/slider shot.  I do this handheld with a simple technique.  Doing that on the fly adds a level of quality I try to accomplish on my gigs.
Back in the day, I'd have to set up track to handle the bulkiness of video gear.  Then, as gear got smaller, I went to a slider to accomplish the same look.  Now I can do an entire shoot handheld and still get that more sophisticated footage. What's not to like about that?
Bottom line:  You still need to be a half way decent shooter, nothing compensates for that talent.  But if you got the chops and know how to make smart decisions, (IBIS is NOT a steady cam people) then the added tool of IBIS is a welcome capability.

Yes, that old NTSC still looks great because those projects were co-lit by a colleague of mine that's really good at doing such.  Also, most of it was magic hour shooting.  Which is why, in my anecdotal experience, resolution and dynamic range ain't the main thing.  It's wonderful to have, but when you got solid craftspeople on set doing a great job, any decent camera should look wonderful.
Consider Arri.  Everyone loves the Alexa, right?  Footage looks awesome, etc.  Well, why wouldn't it?  Pros are using it.  People that access the upper echelon of cameras tend to be people that are already pretty good at what they're doing.  It looks great because it's shot great.
In the up coming months we're going to see a bunch of mediocre footage from the GH5. (along with some crazily impressive stuff too)  The weak footage won't be because it's a bad camera, but because it's affordable enough to be in the hands of people with rudimentary skills making mistakes and bad choices.

Yes, that old NTSC still looks great because those projects were co-lit by a colleague of mine that's really good at doing such.  Also, most of it was magic hour shooting.  Which is why, in my anecdotal experience, resolution and dynamic range ain't the main thing.  It's wonderful to have, but when you got solid craftspeople on set doing a great job, any decent camera should look wonderful.
Consider Arri.  Everyone loves the Alexa, right?  Footage looks awesome, etc.  Well, why wouldn't it?  Pros are using it.  People that access the upper echelon of cameras tend to be people that are already pretty good at what they're doing.  It looks great because it's shot great.
In the up coming months we're going to see a bunch of mediocre footage from the GH5. (along with some crazily impressive stuff too)  The weak footage won't be because it's a bad camera, but because it's affordable enough to be in the hands of people with rudimentary skills making mistakes and bad choices.

Yes, that old NTSC still looks great because those projects were co-lit by a colleague of mine that's really good at doing such.  Also, most of it was magic hour shooting.  Which is why, in my anecdotal experience, resolution and dynamic range ain't the main thing.  It's wonderful to have, but when you got solid craftspeople on set doing a great job, any decent camera should look wonderful.
Consider Arri.  Everyone loves the Alexa, right?  Footage looks awesome, etc.  Well, why wouldn't it?  Pros are using it.  People that access the upper echelon of cameras tend to be people that are already pretty good at what they're doing.  It looks great because it's shot great.
In the up coming months we're going to see a bunch of mediocre footage from the GH5. (along with some crazily impressive stuff too)  The weak footage won't be because it's a bad camera, but because it's affordable enough to be in the hands of people with rudimentary skills making mistakes and bad choices.

The best thing that's come out of 4K on consumer cameras is finally being able to make sharp and detailed 1080p. 

Agreed.
I've utilized IBIS effectively for my low-end corporate shoots.  Unless one is a complete moron shooting video, ya figure out what looks good and what doesn't and make it work for your production.
No, you don't use IBIS as a replacement for a tripod.  If you're doing loooong-take event videography, (boring, but whatever) you most likely get a tripod.  
On the other hand, if you attempting to knock out a ton of quick but elegant b-roll shots, you can make IBIS footage look great.  With decent IBIS I quickly and easily learned how to emulate a dolly/slider shot.  I do this handheld with a simple technique.  Doing that on the fly adds a level of quality I try to accomplish on my gigs.
Back in the day, I'd have to set up track to handle the bulkiness of video gear.  Then, as gear got smaller, I went to a slider to accomplish the same look.  Now I can do an entire shoot handheld and still get that more sophisticated footage. What's not to like about that?
Bottom line:  You still need to be a half way decent shooter, nothing compensates for that talent.  But if you got the chops and know how to make smart decisions, (IBIS is NOT a steady cam people) then the added tool of IBIS is a welcome capability.