crazyrunner33

I am convinced Sony will go in the direction of Quad Bayer stacked CMOS sensors for the A7S series and it's a major reason we've waited so long for it. I also think the FS5's electronically variable ND filter will be in the camera too.
Quad Bayer answers the conundrum of balancing low light performance and megapixel count. It is the best of both worlds and allows a 48 megapixel 8000 x 6000 image and 8K video - at the same time as 4000 x 3000 and 4K video with better low light performance.
The proof of concept is sitting in my hands right now. Step forward the mighty Xiaomi Mi 9 smartphone with 48 megapixel Sony Quad Bayer sensor and 960fps slow-mo.
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Will Canon EVER figure out how to oversample a sensor, deBayer and downsample it to 4k? My God,...how long has Sony been doing their full pixel readout now? The GH5 (Sony IMX272) does a 5k full pixel readout too.
I guess Canon will need to buy Sony sensors to do this? Until then, Canon is still stuck in crude RGGB 1:1 deBayer land.

Haha Canon, the masters of product segmentation! Seriously though who is really surprised?
Its a $1300 FF camera. No way was Canon going to cannibalize its EOS R / 5D4 so quickly.
I still think its a decent deal. I have a workaround for the 4K CDAF thing: shoot FHD using crop mode, you then get a very nice/detailed 4K downsampled IQ with DPAF.
edit 1: EF-S lens support is 4K only so looks like crop mode may be disabled in FHD! 
No 24p/25p is ridiculous though but I guess just shoot 30p and export on a 24/25p timeline?
edit 2: Just watched Gordon Laings review: it has 25p FHD.. is 30p only for NTSC??
Any definitive word on the crop?

6240(listed pixel width)/3840(UHD, I didn't see a 4K option) = 1.625. 
If the specs are correct, it should be almost identical to Canon APS C. 
Depends on the manufacture. I've had some off brand LP-E6 outperform the Canon battery and some that sucked. 

Thanks. I wonder what the video performance will be on that battery, especially at 4k, with the screen on. It would surprise me if you could get longer than an hour on those battery specs. 

From my experience, off-brand LP-E6s seem to last about 60% the time of the Canon batteries. Same for the LPE17s? Or do other manufacturer's batteries do a bit better? 

I am sorry for people who bought EOS R, this one is basically the same, also with eye AF, and almost half the price.

Yeah crop doesn't really have to do with processing power, more so that Canon does 1:1 4K readouts no?
Maybe some math expert can predict the crop now that we have final sensor specs? 

Agreed that this is a great value. If the 4K crop is closer to 1.5x as expected, it even has a leg up vs the EOS R. Without the All-I, 10-bit HDMI out, and C-Log, the EOS R is still the better buy as a C200/300 B-Cam or professional mirrorless camera, but this would be a great enthusiast camera or travel camera. 
I don't vlog, but I can see vloggers digging it as well. Wouldn't be surprised if the marketing materials included a lot of vlogging images (and maybe why they included Eye-AF). 

Damn, not only does it have 4K DPAF.. but it does so with continuous eye-AF in video. ..something EOS R can't even do (Canon better add that in a future update!)
No ALL-I codec, 10-bit out or Clog were to be expected.. but all in all not that much missing.
Pretty sweet deal for $1000 cheaper than EOS R released only 4 months ago.. 
 
 

hmmm, no news on the crop?

If its a consumer grade camera that seems fair? Kinda strange to omit 30fps as I know a lot of normal consumers prefer it to 24p

i killed a $250000 cnc machine once, work didn't like paying for the service guy to maintain the machine and he wasn't always as  prompt as the boss would have liked. the service guys wife was dying from cancer at the time and he was a genuinely nice guy, i dont hold him responsible for being less than prompt in attendance.  i had the aptitude for running it so i was one of three instructed on running it the two others left at some point and i ended up doing repairs as required. when i had an issue that hadn't arisen before i would ring him and he would sort me out over the phone most times. one time i got myself in over my head. this machine was dos based and i inadvertently deleted some files that were linked to the start up if i remember correctly the machine was dead for about a week and it took 3 days for the service guy to reinstall everything and get various things talking to each other again . i wasn't popular for awhile. still we all human mistakes happen the trick is not to have them happen often

Nokishita has added 4K to the specs:
EOS RP
26.2 Million Pixels Full Size Sensor
Dual pixel CMOS AF
DIGIC 8
4K video
Continuous shooting performance: 5 frames / sec
ISO sensitivity: 100 to 40000 (equivalent to extended ISO: 50, 51200, 102400)
Organic EL EVF
3.0 type touch panel variable angle liquid crystal
Dual Sensing IS
DLO in camera, RAW development in camera, C-RAW compatible
Size: 132.5 x 85.0 x 70.0 mm
Weight: Approximately 440 g (body only), about 485 g (including batteries?)
Kit lens: RF24 - 105 mm F4L IS USM (domestically RF 35 mm F 1.8 macro IS STM)

EOS RP + EG-E1 extension grip

Despite their terrible 4K Crop, Canon is definitely doing some interesting things. Seems like their EF to RF adapter with a variable ND will be shipping at the end of this month, so that could be a big game changer. 
I've always hated digital stabilization, but has anyone else used it in the EOS R? It is surprisingly good and I haven't noticed any of the warping effect that often plagues digital stabilization. 
Most excited for NAB 2019 to see if Canon can put some new energy into the wide open (and rather dull since the original Sony FS5) $3-$7k cinema camera market. C100 III or XC-style Super35 ILC? Hope so. 

Or get a tripod?!
No C-LOG no problem.
I've been using my own EOSHD C-LOG for years and works perfectly on the non-C-LOG Canons.

The handheld look from a small mirrorless isn't bad if you use the neck strap and hold it out far enough to keep it tight. But still, IBIS would be needed for me to consider one. 

Yeah the small size is great for photography, but for video these small camera's just jitter all over the place as they are too low weight. Sure Ibis helps, but I guess it does not look as natural as a handheld heavy weight camera.