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Rudolf reacted to richg101 in Revival of super 8 film ?
I'll answer each of your points as best i can
1. creative people who want the cheapest access to celluloid for motion picture. The same type of people who still shoot film (1000000% more expensive than digital), listen to vinyl records (which are 1000% more expensive than itunes and 1000000% more expensive than piracy), and those who drive classic cars instead of modern cars (they break down more often and are less fuel efficient, yet they still do it. it's called going against the grain. enthusiasm. passion. nostagia
2. not always. 8mm film shot, developed and scanned well will outperform full hd digital. if the 8mm format took off the costs will likely be massively cheaper than 16mm or 35mm due to demand driving prices down. the 8mm film stock has the same colour and highlight rolloff as the film stock used for interstellar, hateful 8, and the master. if you only need fullhd then 8mm carefully handled will deliver.
3. it may be too pricey for some, but not everyone. those who might make the choice to invest in stuff for their art endeavours rather than waste money on big tv's, junkfood and consuming stuff they don;t need tend to spend their money on stuff like this.
4. patience is a virtue. you may not be patient enough to wait for development. I get impatient too. but as above - there are people who are patient and they benefit!
5. maybe. I like to think when I'm 50 I'll have the budget to invest in stuff like this for my own enjoyment, capturing family, grandchildren, life, etc. But I know plenty of commercial film makers who will be investing in this little camera for commercial work. The value in doing so is heightened by the fact that there are those with your opinions who aren't willing to go to the effort or invest in the action of trying something against the grain.
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Rudolf reacted to richg101 in Revival of super 8 film ?
I started shooting polaroids about 2 years ago. 3200iso b+w and 100iso colour from fuji. it costs about £1.50 per shot, and within a year the entire supply of film will be exhausted. . only 3 out of ten pics are viable to be scanned and shared. Even then the images get next to no likes on flickr. technically they're weak. however each image I take on polaroid feels like a real photo. a physical entity. I've done a few birthday/wedding jobs where they budget £5 per photo. They are willing to pay this because the pictures are so much more magical. technically they're awful but on a human level they are magic. The effort I went to making a camera that obtains the best from polaroids is pretty mad looking back on it - when you consider how technically limited the format is. But from the private messages I get asking for a parts list to make the camera below, it's clear film is still important enough for kodak to develop this new 8mm camera.
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Rudolf got a reaction from richg101 in Revival of super 8 film ?
I say even bigger THANK YOU! for your last post. Problem is many people just don't understand film. It is like telling video is digital film (my CDs are not digital records).
And I would really like to know what you did with you Canon 814? That looks very intresting.
I second that. It would definately help the thousands and thousands of videomakers to improve and teach them a lot: Less can be more - especially when you have to look more for quality and make sure to get the shot done. A very important aspect in filmaking.
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Rudolf got a reaction from richg101 in Revival of super 8 film ?
Yes, please tell me...
Something wasn't mentioned here. All this is about film! Keep in mind that there is no(!) fresh color reversal film available right now - for no format at all.
And this new development of Kodak/Logmar could hopefully result in the new production of fresh color reversal film (we are still waiting for Ferrania...)
And keep in mind: The magic bergins with the projection
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Rudolf got a reaction from Mattias Burling in Revival of super 8 film ?
I say even bigger THANK YOU! for your last post. Problem is many people just don't understand film. It is like telling video is digital film (my CDs are not digital records).
And I would really like to know what you did with you Canon 814? That looks very intresting.
I second that. It would definately help the thousands and thousands of videomakers to improve and teach them a lot: Less can be more - especially when you have to look more for quality and make sure to get the shot done. A very important aspect in filmaking.
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Rudolf reacted to Don Kotlos in Revival of super 8 film ?
Can't wait for the first non-reusable SD cards
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Rudolf reacted to Mattias Burling in Revival of super 8 film ?
If you dont get it you dont get it.
Some play soccer. I think it sucks. Thats becaude I dont get it. So I let it go.
At the store I might buy stuff to make Pizza. The guy next to me buys frozen pizza. None of us get it. So we let it go.
But I dont stand there questioning him, try to lecture him or call him names. I let the man eat his pizza and let it go.
I will pre-order that thing asap. A roll of of s8 costs $15 from shoot to export from the NLE. Cheaper than going to the movies and ten times more fun imo.
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Rudolf reacted to richg101 in Revival of super 8 film ?
but if you can't reuse your film it'll mean you make damn sure what you shoot is worthwhile.
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Rudolf reacted to BenEricson in Revival of super 8 film ?
Shot on super 8 and seriously beautiful. Slow motion, highlight roll off, color. It's all there folks.
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Rudolf reacted to Mattias Burling in Revival of super 8 film ?
Developing at home i easier than making mac n cheese and costs a fraction.
Besides, imo, you dont shoot s8 as an alternative. Its its own thing.
Btw, I shot some s35 s8 the other week
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Rudolf got a reaction from tigerbengal in panavision Superama 16mm Anamorphic
The Moeller 32 (which is still one of the most underrated anamorphics out there) could be an option. Regarding imagequality, sharpness, and especially character there is not much left to be desired. The downside is of course you cannot go wide (less than 50mm on mft) and focusing is anyoing. The Moellers are my favourites and despite Lomo and all the colorful and huge projection-things there is not much left I haven't tried in the budget area
BTW with modern sensor you don't have to worry about losing quality on 2x stretch. That was different in the old (small gauge) film days and was the reason why many adapter have the 1.5 stretch.
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Rudolf reacted to Andrew Reid in Not just vinyl for hipsters! The return of Ultra Panavision 70! Film is back with a vengeance and Tarantino has a behind the scenes look for us
For his upcoming snowy western Tarantino unearthed special cameras and 1.25x anamorphic lenses at Panavision which hadn't seen the light of day since 1965.
The film was shot on 65mm film and will get a 'Roadshow' release on Christmas day in amazing 70mm.
Read the full article
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Rudolf reacted to roccoforte in Hands down best quality double-focus anamorphic?
I recently had a dramatic situation at my house where I had to grab the things that were most valuable to me. I grabbed a few hard drives and my Bolex Moller 8/19/1.5 ;o)
It pairs really well with my 50 Karl Zeiss Jena 1.8 as well as some old Nikon AI-S lenses. My brand new Rectilux is being tinkered with right now and I'm getting some good sharpness with this three lens combo. (See still). Although I've lost my close focus but I'll take that loss now that I can focus quickly.
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Rudolf got a reaction from Arun Karthick in Hands down best quality double-focus anamorphic?
I am a die-hard Moeller fan...
For me nothing comes close in terms of sharpness, imagequality, color, flare. These are so versatile and wonderful built. They have so much character. Maybe the difference is they were made for filming and the 16mm version could work on FF like any Kowa. I would definately go for Moeller 16/32 with Rangefinder if I had the money. On the other way they are so easy to handle... you don't need a rangefinder
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Rudolf reacted to tigerbengal in Hands down best quality double-focus anamorphic?
as Rudolf said, the bolex-moller anamorphot 16/32/1.5 will cover full frame, using the helios 44 58mm no problem, image is really good, sharp, color is great , and blue flares!, you can focus to 1mt I believe , (the little one 8/19/1.5 goes to 0.5m, but it will not cover full frame) without diopters. Awesome optics without breaking the bank!!
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Rudolf got a reaction from Ian Edward Weir in Hands down best quality double-focus anamorphic?
I am a die-hard Moeller fan...
For me nothing comes close in terms of sharpness, imagequality, color, flare. These are so versatile and wonderful built. They have so much character. Maybe the difference is they were made for filming and the 16mm version could work on FF like any Kowa. I would definately go for Moeller 16/32 with Rangefinder if I had the money. On the other way they are so easy to handle... you don't need a rangefinder
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Rudolf got a reaction from Jim Chang in Hands down best quality double-focus anamorphic?
I am a die-hard Moeller fan...
For me nothing comes close in terms of sharpness, imagequality, color, flare. These are so versatile and wonderful built. They have so much character. Maybe the difference is they were made for filming and the 16mm version could work on FF like any Kowa. I would definately go for Moeller 16/32 with Rangefinder if I had the money. On the other way they are so easy to handle... you don't need a rangefinder
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Rudolf reacted to richg101 in The variation between 50mm lenses
This is a quick test showing flaring of every 50mm (or 'normal' focal length) I have in my arsenal, and in stock at the moment, some have been supplied to me for optical work. I'm not going to go an list each lens in order, but upload this to illustrate how much variation there is between 50mm lenses despite being almost all consisting of 6 elements in 4 groups, or double gauss designs. Though anamorphic lenses are often seen as flare makers I think some of the results here are magical enough to warrant pairing them with anamorphics which don;t have particualy exciting flaring like an MC 'Rama 54, or a cinelux and an FM- just for the defocus and aspect ration alone. with some of these flares from the prime alone, why add more!
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Rudolf reacted to Hans Punk in ISCORAMA x1.33-16-9 RARE… for sale !
There is a 1.9x big mutha version out there that is for DLP use, bit too big and heavy for practical use on camera though! Cricriprod's 1.33x Isco looks far more camera friendly
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Rudolf got a reaction from richg101 in ISCORAMA x1.33-16-9 RARE… for sale !
You are both wrong: This is the only (super sharp and multicoated) focusing 1.33 ratio adapter made by Isco. It is very rare and very sought after. (not only by filmmakers)
Same like the other Iscoramas. If I had the cash I would like to buy it. Maybe for home cinema...
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Rudolf got a reaction from valery akos in ISCORAMA x1.33-16-9 RARE… for sale !
You are both wrong: This is the only (super sharp and multicoated) focusing 1.33 ratio adapter made by Isco. It is very rare and very sought after. (not only by filmmakers)
Same like the other Iscoramas. If I had the cash I would like to buy it. Maybe for home cinema...
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Rudolf got a reaction from Tito Ferradans in ISCORAMA x1.33-16-9 RARE… for sale !
You are both wrong: This is the only (super sharp and multicoated) focusing 1.33 ratio adapter made by Isco. It is very rare and very sought after. (not only by filmmakers)
Same like the other Iscoramas. If I had the cash I would like to buy it. Maybe for home cinema...
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Rudolf got a reaction from Hans Punk in ISCORAMA x1.33-16-9 RARE… for sale !
You are both wrong: This is the only (super sharp and multicoated) focusing 1.33 ratio adapter made by Isco. It is very rare and very sought after. (not only by filmmakers)
Same like the other Iscoramas. If I had the cash I would like to buy it. Maybe for home cinema...