Emanuel

Understand the genre you are making, what works in the edit and what doesn't.
Most discussion of camera features is just noise coming from people that don't know what matters to them and what doesn't.  

I think certainly for stills, at least at ‘ordinary’ viewing levels which for 99.9999999999999% of all viewing these days is on a device and mainly a phone…and with compressed images at that!
The artist/craftsman in me still and always will fight back against that even if I am the only one that sees or even knows about it.
It’s one of the reasons I am chasing more megapixels. It’s not because I think it improves the image in any way as such, but because I can crop ever harder with a lower loss of quality which means I can use smaller and lighter kit which has so many benefits including enjoyment.
Tech for tech sake no. If it’s just data on a spreadsheet, who gives a shit, but when that tech relates to real world quality of life…

Eu entendo você em qualquer um dos idiomas, @Emanuel 😁

(just a joke to my fellow "languager" here) 😉

Well I have been around, but this website is a bit dead, @Andrew Reid isn’t posting anymore. I agree with his panasonic post. The era of 5DII and Magic lantern and GH4s etc used to be fun. Now not so much. 
Also, as everybody here knows, I spent most of my time out here on this forum complaining for years that it was unbelievable we had good phase detect AF in one body, good IBIS in another, good 4K in another, 4K120P in another, great full frame stills in another, but nobody would release a camera with all that. Well Canon did it with the R5 5 years ago. I bought it, and stopped complaining lol. So I haven’t much to say. 

Oh actually I do have something to complain about. I am a lot into landscape drone photography/video now. For years, I have been waiting for the combination of vertical shooting (DJI Mini) with high quality (DJI Mavic PRO). Can’t believe I have to carry multiple drones. 
Fortunately DJI listened to me and is releasing the Mavic Pro 4 next month, with excellent IQ as always for the pro line and finally, yes finally vertical shooting. Jesus they took their time…
That one is an instant buy! As for my R5, I am happy with it. The R5II is a joke for me, not too much reason to upgrade. Any new camera that is being released recently is not really better than the R5 so nothing to get excited about.
Well, the R5 II is not as much of a joke as the new Sony A1 II though. Those guys managed to release the exact same camera years later for $6500 haha

Really? ; ) The answer, my friend, is blowing in your own, is blowing in your own post... LOL BTW, where have you been? You as a few others over here are truly missed : ) 
  
Ah and €2762 to $4K is the difference (huge gap for 50% more BTW) enough to make me pull the trigger, you know? 
People have a budget, mine in mid-2020 decade is up to $500 for mini sensor size cams, perhaps other than iPhone but the fact is that I haven't bought one yet ; ) 
$1000-$1500 for a workhorse camera and about $2500 for a premium device. 
Other than that, they don't have my money in their pocket/bank account. I bought a 12K Ursa Mini Pro like new for $3K, so you see... ;- )

More than making sense... It's like the refrigerator POV shots... Hitchcock once called it the cow's perspective when Truffaut asked him why there were no establishing shots for the trains with his movies...

In China launch event there was this slide that says 5 new companies joining the L mount

DJI, Blackmagicdesign, Samyang, Astro, disclosed before. The 5th can be Viltrox. 

You mean it is good at focusing sideways then? 🙂
I would choose S5 over anything pre-A7 III as well as 2012 cameras aren't my bag.
Do you mean a7 IV?
I just think the a7 IV is superior to the S5 in so many ways.
And not in the small stuff but big...
The autofocus. The viewfinder. The mount. The resolution. The lens adapters. The ergonomics.
No-phase-detect-AF is a no-go for 2025.
I just don't know why you'd want to put yourself through the inconvenience especially for video. For stills with native Panasonic glass you can usually get away with DFD just fine though.
The Z6 is like $650 used now, probably one of the all-time great bargains as far as bang for image quality goes.
 

Looks good
https://digitalproduction.com/2025/02/10/redcine-x-beta-embraces-nikon-n-raw/

Since I had the Z9, Nikon seems to have been on a firmware update rampage.
This is just for the Z8...
■ Still Photography
• Added [Pixel shift shooting] to the photo shooting menu.
• Added new picture controls.
• Added [Birds] to [AF subject detection options] in the photo shooting menu.
• The maximum shooting display zoom ratio is now 400%.
• Added [Auto capture] to the photo shooting menu. Users can select capture criteria from [Motion] (the direction the subject is moving), [Distance] (how far the subject is from the camera), and [Subject detection] (whether or not a subject of a given type is detected).
• The length of time the camera will continue to buffer frames before cancelling shooting during the Pre-Release Capture phase of high-speed frame capture + has been increased from 30 to 300 seconds.
• Added [Large] to the size options available for [Secondary slot function] > [JPEG primary - JPEG secondary] in the photo shooting menu.
• Added new bracketing increments for use during auto bracketing with [AE & flash bracketing], [AE bracketing], or [Flash bracketing] selected for [Auto bracketing set]. This change also applies to [Interval timer shooting] > [Options] > [AE bracketing] > [Increment].
■ Video Recording
• Added new picture controls.
• Added [Birds] to [AF subject detection options] in the video recording menu.
• The maximum shooting display zoom ratio is now 400%.
• Added [Auto capture] to the video recording menu. Users can select capture criteria from [Motion] (the direction the subject is moving), [Distance] (how far the subject is from the camera), and [Subject detection] (whether or not a subject of a given type is detected).
• Added low ISO sensitivity options to [ISO sensitivity settings] > [ISO sensitivity (mode M)] for use during N-Log video recording.
• Changed the range of speeds available for Hi-Res Zoom.
• The color of the in-focus AF-area brackets shown on the shooting display when Hi-Res Zoom is enabled has been changed.
• Hi-Res Zoom operations can now be performed using the sub-selector.
• Added slow-motion video recording.
■ Playback
• Added [Playback speed] in the video playback “i” menu.
• Added [Auto image rotation] in the playback menu.
• Added [Auto series playback options] to [Series playback] in the playback menu.
• Made changes to the [Select for upload to computer] and [Select for upload (FTP)] items in the playback “i” menu and added [Select for priority upload to computer] and [Select for priority upload (FTP)].
■ Controls
• Added [Half-press to cancel zoom (MF)] item to the [CUSTOM SETTINGS MENU] in positions d18 and g17.
• Added [Focus point border width] to a11 [Focus point display] in the [CUSTOM SETTINGS MENU].
• Changes have been made to how a full format is performed with [Format memory card] in the [SETUP MENU].
• White balance and exposure compensation can now be adjusted while recalling the shooting function settings.
• Added support for the power zoom feature on power zoom lenses.
• Added an [Exposure delay mode] item to the [CUSTOM SETTINGS MENU] in position d6.
• Added to the custom controls and roles assignable via the following items in the [CUSTOM SETTINGS MENU]. New reset options have also been added.
- f2[Custom controls (shooting)]
- f3[Custom controls (playback)]
- g2[Custom controls]
   Choose [Prefer focus point] or [Prefer focus point (face priority)] for f3 [Custom controls (playback)] > [Main command dial] or [Sub-command dial] > [Frame advance zoom position].
The settings for f3 [Custom controls (playback)] > [Main command dial] or [Sub-command dial] > [Frame advance] can now be applied during playback zoom.
• Made updates to [Non-CPU lens data] in the [SETUP MENU].
• Increased the character limit from 3 to 256 for “Category” entries in IPTC presets.
• Restructured the [Camera sounds] item in the [SETUP MENU] with the addition of new options, including new sounds and volume level adjustment for the electronic shutter.
■ Displays
• Added focus-distance information to the focus distance indicator displayed during manual focus.
• The option selected for [Viewfinder display size] (formerly [Finder display size (photo Lv)]) in the [SETUP MENU] now also applies in video and playback modes.
■ Network (Also NX Field)
• A warning now appears when the connection to an ATOMOS AirGlu BT accessory is unstable or disrupted.
• ATOMOS AirGlu BT accessories and MC-N10 remote grips can now be used together.
• Made changes and additions to the [Connect to FTP server] item in the [NETWORK MENU].
• Changed the procedure used when configuring the camera for synchronized release, increasing to twenty the number of groups that can be created, while the number of cameras in each group that can be controlled from the master camera has been increased to sixteen.
• Added [Overwrite copyright info] under [Connect to other cameras] in the [NETWORK MENU].
■ App-Related Changes
With NX MobileAir:
• the camera live view display for photo mode now shows NX MobileAir status, and
• camera settings saved to a memory card using [Save/load menu settings] can now be downloaded to the smart device or copied from the smart device to the camera memory card using NX MobileAir.
■ Other Changes
• The time the shooting display goes dark after shutter is released when [ON] is selected for [Photo flicker reduction] in the [PHOTO SHOOTING MENU] has become shorter.
• Improved the accuracy of [3D-tracking] for small, fast-moving subjects when [Auto], [People], [Animal], or [Vehicle] is chosen for [AF subject detection options] and no subject of the selected type is detected.
• Improved focus lock-on with flicker detection in low-speed continuous release mode.
• Made other improvements to the autofocus operation and its reliability.
• Fixed an issue that sometimes resulted in the viewfinder darkening during playback when [Auto] was selected for [Viewfinder brightness].
• It is now easier to obtain the correct exposure from the first shot during interval-timer photography in high-contrast settings or settings dark enough for starlight view.
• The histogram display is no longer available when starlight view is enabled.
• Changed the video low-capacity warning so that it is now displayed in white on a red background when there is less than one minute remaining. The warning is now also displayed when recording is not in progress.
• Users now have more precise control when scrolling through videos during playback using the progress bar.
• When [AF-area mode] is set to [3D-tracking] and the human subject is large relative to the frame and multiple eyes are detected near the tracking focus point, the camera will assign priority for focusing to the eye closer to the point.
• The RGB histogram is now easier to view when [Mode 1] or [Mode 2] is selected for d11 [Warm display colors] in [CUSTOM SETTINGS MENU].
• Fixed the following issues:
- Photos taken with interval-timer photography could sometimes be underexposed.
- Flash may not sometimes fire during focus shift.
- The focus position unintentionally returned to the position saved using [Save focus position] if standby timer was expired while power was supplied via USB and a WR-R10 was attached.
- Optimal exposure could sometimes not achieved in burst or focus shift shooting.
- Pressing the AF-ON button immediately ended playback when [Playback] was assigned to [AF-ON button] and [Prioritize viewfinder (2)] was selected for monitor mode.
- Shutter release was sometimes disabled when “Bulb” was selected for shutter speed.
- Focus point selection using the multi selector and sub-selector was unavailable if a touch operation was performed using [Position focus point] when [3D-tracking] was selected for AF-area mode.
- Fine-tuning values set in [AF fine-tuning options] in the setup menu did not apply while the subject is detected with [Wide-area AF (S)], [Wide-area AF (L)], [Wide-area AF (C1)], or [Wide-area AF (C2)] selected for [AF-area mode].
- With some lenses, the shutter release was sometimes disabled in burst photography if the lens zoom ring was rotated.
Changes from “C” Firmware Version 1.00 to 1.01
• Changed the timing of the high-temperature warnings appearing when the camera’s internal temperature increases mainly during video recording.
• Changed the position where the memory card high-temperature warning is displayed in video mode.
• Fixed the following issues:
- The battery would draw down more quickly while the camera was off if [ON] was selected for [Connect to smart device] > [Wi-Fi connection] in the [NETWORK MENU] even if [OFF] was selected for both [Bluetooth connection] and [Upload while off].
- Focus could still be adjusted using the focus ring when [Disable] was selected for a15 [Manual focus ring in AF mode] in the [CUSTOM SETTINGS MENU] if an option other than [Non-linear] was chosen for f9 [Focus ring rotation range] in the [CUSTOM SETTINGS MENU].

The Z8, and Z6 III just got firmware updates a week or so ago for shutter angle.

I think he just makes cameras that he himself wants to use and feels there are enough like minded people around who will want to as well.
And if not, well, they sell enough lenses to cover it anyway.

Democratization of videography introduced a group of people to the community who do. The expectations of a TikToker from a dedicated camera is obviously different than mine. 

Whatever the personal preference on the shots, part of the question for me would be whether that's a capture-time decision or a decision to be made in the edit/color grade.  I tend to favor the latter.  Best to capture a flexible "negative" that can be manipulated after the fact.
As an example, I recently shot and then colored a short film with someone else doing the editing.  The editor complained after my first color pass that it was too contrasty and dark.  The scene is a tense scene in a hallway with a man in military gear guarding the rear while his comrades rush off.  The light in the hallway is flickering and supposed to be faulty.  For me, bringing the levels down and crushing the shadows (and yes, losing detail!) was absolutely the right call.  The darkness and contrast help to convey the tense feeling of the scene... and flickering lights tend not to be strong!
Anyway, thankfully the director/producer liked the darkness so we went with it...  but the washed-out look seems really fashionable these days (and I'm not all that here for it).

After ralphing up my lunch from watching rolling shutter comparisons, I can safely say the Lumix S1Rii is pile of crap comparatively speaking. It's completely unusable in this regard and I'm sure Lumix will either be releasing an update or submitting a recall. Here's the proof: 
 

Even an "ancient" Nikon D800 still does "good" image quality by 2025 standards. 
Basically for a number of years then stills performances have been in a plateau of at best gradual improvement in image quality. Eventually we're starting to see the same happen for video image performance as well.
 

Once a fashion photographer told me, in a humorous way, that why he doesnt need high DR. The scene was a hotel room and half naked model was lying on the bed. He wanted the window, that has a view to a historical building, to be completely blown out, because "the facade of that damn building is sexier than my model". It was interesting to me that how much they're obsessed with viewer attention heat map in their frame, like they even plan for the eye movements. 

More than making sense... It's like the refrigerator POV shots... Hitchcock once called it the cow's perspective when Truffaut asked him why there were no establishing shots for the trains with his movies...

I still think that ETTR and trying to max out dynamic range leads to a worse overall look.
It is one of the reason people complain about the colours on CMOS sensors and the flat tonality.
The cinema look even in uncontrolled light is to prioritise what part of the shot is the most important.
I really like my contrast

Take the original Blade Runner for example, there would be no benefit in bringing up the shadows in this shot.
The silhouette of the figure and the walkway is what the shot is about.
So here 7 stops better than 14.

In this one even though it's film the neon is blown out.
There would be no benefit having an Alexa 35 here because if the neon mess behind him was bright colours and details it would be distracting us from the main subject.

It is also supposed to look bright... because lights are... erm... bright
Like the sun is bright.
Today I don't know why people want to make lights look dark and shadows look bright, it makes no sense.

So much for me not watching reviews, but I am glad I found this which just seems a bit slower and more grounded.
While there is a lot of similar ground covered from earlier reviews, things that stand out to me in this one are
lots of great imagery and skin tone in a variety of lighting perhaps a slight over correction toward magenta? but no more of the greens that I am always pulling out of my S1 footage dynamic range gains are weighted toward the shadows and highlights need to be better protected when they are prioritized and fantastic color and noise stability when lifting shadows relative to prior S cameras (like shocking to me) don't use DRE with 8K for a sit-down interview.  

Deep Joy
 

🤯
So some early doors impressions of the Nikon...
It's been out a while so I won't get into the specs again.
The overwhelming impression is that Nikon are mad bastards.
It's as if they have taken the Z9 and gone... right let's make this better and reduce price by a lot.
Everything about it I prefer to the Z9. The price, the size, the newer features and firmware updates since launch which I am discovering for first time since I sold my Z9 a couple of years back.
Size wise, it's barely larger than my EOS R5. Weight is impressive given the slightly oversized body vs the Sony cameras.
It feels chonky but light at same time which is a nice feeling.
I am reminded how well the Nikon Z mount filter stack works at fast apertures.
The manual glass I have like the Voigtlander 40mm F1.2 VM is like a different lens on the Z8 compared to the EOS R5 and Sony a7 IV.
The glowing edges are gone at F1.2 and less fringing too.
F1.2 looks almost as good as F2!
I have gone deep into the menus and decided that there's absolutely nothing missing. The different levels of compression for both RAW stills AND RAW video is refreshing especially coming from Panasonic where's there's only ProRes RAW with very large file sizes or uncompressed Cinema DNG on the Sigma Fp-L. Nikon with the RED patent clearly will lead the RAW video codec race for perhaps the next 10 years or more.
I want to do a comparison in 4K (where you can toggle between pixel binning / oversampling!) between the higher bitrate N-RAW and 700Mbit/s smaller file size N-RAW. Of course ProRes RAW is also in there.
No mechanical shutter doesn't seem to be a problem so far and you can make it do a cute beep when taking a shot instead of a tacky fake shutter sound.
Rather a quiet or optionally silent stills camera than one with a loud average shutter clack... although I will one day miss the 'feel' of a quiet mechanical shutter with a satisfying heft. X-H1, Leica SL2, GFX 100, to name a few.
There are still a few mechanical sounds coming from the Z8. And one of them is actually quite annoying... It parks / locks the IBIS mechanism to save power / protect the camera every time you enter the main menu. It parks it with quite a loud clank and unlocks with a similar clank when it activates again. Wish there was a way to turn that off without disabling VR. The only other mechanical part is the sensor protection curtain which comes down at power-off, but you can choose whether to have that off or not.
The EVF is enormous. In optical terms the best I've ever used. In resolution terms, perhaps not the absolute most detailed but right up there. Can you use it for manual focus at F1.2 without peaking? Absolutely. There's not this feeling you are looking through a tunnel. It's smooth, high contrast, a big FOV flat with no distortion.
The rolling shutter appears to be a complete non-issue and there's no crop whatsoever in 4K/120p. Not tried the 8K/60 yet. I have a few 512GB CFexpress cards to test. Got a feeling I might need to go bigger.
I am glad I resisted the tempting Nikon Zf.
Only thing I am unsure about is whether the Z8 shares the same level of locked-down IBIS performance in video mode as the Zf, as that was quite incredible.
Also tested the Nikon 28-200mm travel zoom which has been reduced recently to around 650 euros.
I am surprised how small it is and how light. Sure, it's slow at f4-6.3 but it seems pretty sharp and nifty as a shot getter.
The 28-75mm F2.8 Nikon Z is also incredibly small and light for a bright zoom.
Not tried the Sigma ART E-mount range yet via the Megadap adapter but those are next up.

LOL : ) OK, let's for one picture now...

 
But I still recommend to eveyone of us to not defocus of that hinted by that guy above in that reminder there... No tools, no AI either (in a so difficult situation this business is) can overcome our own path to form the need other than our own asset: 
Our ability to create the market. 
 
With content.
 
Don't let the audiences (or the channels, as aforementioned TikToks, YTs, etc.) push on our behalf, instead.*
There's world outside social media. 
And the written form in these boards are the fine example of it. 
As many sensibilities and levels (layers, needs...) as colouful as human kind is. 
IIRC I recall to have read here in this same thread a couple of pages back and about a certain network, something like there's reality outside the current 2025 news trend (or narrative as it was written), that is, you didn't use exactly all those words in specific or that was the topic (more of it) but your readers are able to infer that from : )
I see it as really meaningful.
 
OK, that guy didn't quote Ortega Y Gasset ; ) but I will now then and as he once said, we are our circumstances, for sure, but they should never overthrow us unless we let them play such part.
 
This operates in lato sensu and in stricto sensu in many aspects of human life.
In short, because context can be a bitch = ) we love all these tools (or a good part to each camera release... = D) but as we know, it's not there the main concern of our craft.
 
Hope this helps as reflection of my own indeed,
- EAG :- )
 
* In some other equation-form: 
sender (encoding) -> receiver (decoding)
vs 
sender <- receiver 
(trading places, that is, along the process of encoding/decoding completely upside down...)
≠ 
sender <-> receiver
(for some reason we've had Marvel... and a few partisans have respond with Anora as for instance... but do not blame me to go off topic here! xD)

Sigma indeed.

What do you mean with best adapters? That you can mount the most lenses to it?
The thing about L-mount I like is that how great the autofocus behaves with adapted EF lenses, much better then any e-mount camera I have used though.