Emanuel

Babbling? Twice? Oh man, but are you quoting me again, you too? That expression was addressed earlier in this thread but to you... hehe Sorry dude, couldn't resist. No hard feelings : ) So, straight to the points of this new post of yours. You should have something new to say, isn't it? : D Don't put yourself in the same basket of this (GH5 series) guy, if we're speaking of a man. No idea. I know anything other than the provocative posts I read from there. Glenn, much different. He's somehow legit. We've had our divergences. Now I've bought three new ML units to follow an updated Andrew's blog entry, maybe he as ML user may feel more connected with today. Glenn has been a gentleman anyway. It is unfair with him. And partially now with yourself BTW. Without mention you know very well what the right of response means. Hard to find in DPR, let's agree just for one second at least without personal attacks this time? Everyone already knows until the end of Chinese New Year's there's anything new to add. It is not in my hands. I don't even have any footage to post yet. Which part you didn't understand? That last update you infer nowadays it is very likely irrelevant to you but only because you don't give a damn. You are not a P4K owner. What are you doing here in this thread BTW? I could have a bit harsh on you to attach you with the BS label over you, because I've lost my patience to have seen so much BS written from your keyboard towards P4K. I just think you're misleading people outside who want to look for information about the camera. And now derailing this thread which only interests to P4K users. So, you don't own the camera, you claim this camera is not for you, when you open your mouth ends to invariably diminish Blackmagic. What's your point after all? 'Look for what I write, not for what I do' mantra?! LOL ; -)

Exactly. And what's your contribution to make it happen? If you don't omit in your post the leftover, you would have the accuracy, unfortunately, far away with your intent. Everything you simply don't want it, let's be honest here, you too, can you? Let's dream a bit you are another one, with a different character. Easy to figure out the dirty work you're doing over these pages. Pity not everybody is able to free himself of ad hominem attacks addressed to someone who often writes something you don't like to read, isn't it? Uncontrollable resentment can be one of your specs, lack of background is not. So your (mis)quotes you understand very well the meaning, picking up excerpts off topic from distinct posts, excluding the fragments which visibly bother you hehehe your actions should have a precise target, correct? After all, you began all this with your attempt to contaminate this thread with your hatred towards a precise objective of your own: to hurt some other part(y) you can't help yourself to see flowing over your eyes... No worries, I am already used to see your anonymous ID to invariably pop up whenever you see a chance to try diminishing the thorn in your side. Sad you don't have here your customary buddy anymore to fuel your posts with his likes, because he banned himself from successive bitter post to some other. How alone you should feel... : D Hate has an intrinsic characteristic: self-corrosion. Don't change your attitude, don't do it... don't get help, knight, you'll see where the end of the road takes your pettiness ; ) The whole hassle is when this happens in real life, from the most unexpected. Your online behaviour is only a mirror projected on your future in your reality out there. Not nice to see. Do you think your posts here and respective reading go unnoticed without a bright judgment from wise readers? LOL Don't be so self-confident ; -)

As far as I could understand from their correspondence, there's a good chance to happen as soon as they will be back to work. I've just noticed you here because I had ruled out some other options much cumbersome. I guess people like to spend money in something unable to provide that bitter buyer's remorse. Reason why I posted here. I had opened this thread two months before. Every single post of mine then can only prove my total absence of knowledge of this route today. Speaking of past, did it from a quarter of century of b2b and consultancy experience. For some reason I was proudly involved along Qube's expansion in Europe personally invited during Lisbon Village Festival almost a decade and half ago expressly by insistent initiative of former RAI's (Italian State TV Network) executive Antonio Bottiglieri. Sorry for a bit of immodesty now, no hard feelings at all but render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's.

No hard feelings, Don : ) I just guess that one above-posted contradicts such honesty you mention now. I am proud to invariably be honest in everything I do in my life. I have nothing against business. I just not sell myself for a simple reason among others to end with. I don't need to. I believe I would never sell my mom even because she wouldn't deserve such treatment. I would try to be a goofy used car salesman instead. The point is I have more to focus myself than to trade boring PMs combining payments and sending tracking numbers. Just not my cup of tea. I've done this because the chance happened from my need as user. That's all and the pure story behind. If people try to distort the truth involving me in something I am not, I will obviously react. In my country, an old saying states who doesn't, it is not child of decent people. I proudly am. As much as I would be if I'd rather become a used car salesman.

Really? Or it is you who acts like you know all everything about cameras from the laziness of your sofa...? Truly pissed off because you read again something you didn't like...? ; ) Phew Some days ago, some other member (I don't even die for love at all about that guy anyway) from some of your usual burps, he told you in your face you had zero clue on what you're saying as far as this industry you love. Love. Got it? :X I even posted in your defense, don't you remember? No buyer's remorse yet, no worries : D You instead visibly pissed off didn't leave his ankles... Right, you have your retired time for, from your comfortable sofa : P Yesterday, another mate of us (this one I like and for some reason he heard it privately from me even before you in this thread FYI), defied you very ironically to put the money where your mouth is. Maybe you didn't like my like in his post?! haha After all, there were only 350 bucks! What do you buy with such amount in this business...?! He is right, he even inferred western world (my sarcasm wouldn't go so far...) From my side, so many successive posts to tell you are wrong on your remarks about how hard is to shoot with the P4K in your words of nonuser has lead us here. I haven't been the only one there though. IIRC there was even other P4K user who asked to not feed the troll... A bit harsh to call you, no? Now you pop up here? This is just a personal vendetta from your part. It is what it is. You love to post from the condescending tone of your 70-year-old rank like you are an authority on things you have no idea what they are. Nothing against that. I've even shown some sympathy about you in the past. You well know that. You were used to be a nice and respectful guy with me too. Until the day I've started to tell you some truths you don't like to listen. Why? For a simple reason, I don't buy BS and you are a specialist to spread it imposing your liking as paramount among your usual LOLs. You're entitled to your opinion. Just not misleading your readers to intend your yadda yadda as pure facts when they are not. BTW you should get rid of your prejudice towards business players other than the big boys far away of your range. They never heard about you, they never read your jokes, man. You simply never existed to them. At least, I noticed your existence in this world, dude! No one pays me. I am not in the BMD's payroll. I don't need to sell gimbals for living, my dear champion of posts, so I am not for sale. I will keep my mouth active wherever shit hits the fan. If this has slapped your pride much recently, time to you stop and ask yourself why... ; -) Now in a last personal note, disappointing to see. No money over the equation. Decency doesn't pay my bills. Just priceless, if you have any clue what does mean.

Thanks for your trust then... I'd sincerely expect more love from everyone than a bitter vibe from a couple of you. But I tend to forget not all of posters over here are serious camera shooters. The silent majority has reached my PM inbox, sorry folks : D Well, you are pretty inaccurate pal, where January 15 is a month ago...?! Okay, three days ago was last month, you meant : P Without mention the year mark you've just written... I see vaporware is one of other of your specialties. Now I already know where to go when I'll need to hire any consultant for the subject matter *LOL* FYI it is not vaporware, they are a new player but they are already in the air... I just am not in the point of the road to disclose anything else. Consider I am under NDA ; ) Do you allow me so Don? Will you buy it? I'm afraid not as many other gear you confess you didn't buy, you ain't buying and you won't buy. Why your beef then?

You're right on that one. Only based on specs and tests going on from people I know who I trust and have confirmed me so. But... I am so pissed off with this that no one will never hear from me a post here announcing any details about this product. Let alone the brand! : D Although, everyone who have reached me privately will know all details there. Here's the salesman! LOL Some people should get a life rather than babbling with the butt sit in the sofa :X

No, I am not their salesman. I am just some user looking for a solution. I found it through some b2b and b2c channels which allow me arrive there. They are interested to act as their intermediary, I respect that. The beneficial part is the fact I know some people have been so lost as myself to find the best gimbal for this camera, so I came and announced such information in this thread I STARTED to those in the same situation as my own needs. Just about 2 weeks ago... c'mon, give in behalf of your own portrait a break : P If I'd claim NDA, would this shut you up? Seems to me, very clear, there is who has anything other to offer to the world than unashamedly looking through, as Brazilians say, a big fat eye... Disgusting to see.

Are you sure you meant the lens...?? LOL ; -)

How long have you shot with? How many seconds...? LOL Haven't you found a sweet follow focus solution to replace the need of continuous AF? To be sincere with you, seems to me more bias from your personal liking than anything else : ) I'm sorry but I'd be lying to you and to this community if I'd infer it otherwise.

Have you ever shot with one? Tired to read FUD from people outside without a fair experience about : -)

I don't give a damn for brands or mainstream, but outcome and usability. You can have multiple handy point-n-shoot spots or distribute them among your trainees yet for different projects at same time all available in RAW to match the big boys. What else can you ask from?

More likely to be closer to a 6DII if shares the sensor based there...

Have you tested anyone to properly review about?

Where do you find the same offer for such peanuts price range?

Have you tested it with 1080p?

These guys did the right thing to invite you there. Hope BMD have learned the lesson with them : -)

Oliveira was used to say a painter could be hunger only to be able to buy the pencils, no hungry would be enough for a filmmaker to afford film or lab fees. Fortunately we have digital tools today : ) EOS M ML RAW is a Godsend for 100 bucks or so. Bought three units this week : -)

Well, my good fellows of boards, you Dennis and Don can be considered like that, I truly expect from you a much open mind here anyway. Internet -- more often than we would really like, shows up a world where people from their sofas rule the most wild fantasies outside. So, this tends to frequently happen. The problem. No solution? I understand we all have our frustrations where negativism easily arises, but... Serious and proud people, the category where I behave in order to invariably include myself to also be able to address these words now, are worthy of a different treatment. As user, I found a gap. As active player, I've intended to fill my cup. I entered then in touch with some contacts I have and arrived here. Just about TWO WEEKS ago I announced that in order to share with this community a solution for our common need. Or you two, do you have any other suggestion to present to us? ; ) As user, I am all ears. For this reason I started this thread. People have been kind enough reaching me and asking for updates on topic. I could restrict them to private mode or once it is something of valuable for this community to share with you all, without exception. The thin long line to separate private and public domains. Without mention when people pop up in this thread to quote me to fairly wondering themselves on further developments. BTW allow me a very straightforward question to you @deezid once the same would awkwardly be addressed to you Don, I guess: how many weeks you need to put your lovely stuff just fine out there, Dennis? Thank you all for your enthusiasm, you two too, but pessimism is not always a wonderful way to be realistic, it doesn't work all the time for every kind of fellas... The universe has the fortune to offer a much diversity range of color palettes ; -)

To those interested and have been many out there, I've received an update from the manufacturer with whom I've been in touch with these days. We will be unable to proceed during the current Chinese New Year celebration. They will be back to work in the end of their holiday. Hope to have news by then. Thanks for your understanding, interest and support. E : -)

I am also full impressed... : -)

I hope so! : ) I WAS used to be a FF lover. With this price speculation, the more they go high, the more MFT makes all the sense to me and who loves independent art : -)

I only see people who don't have one trying to sustain to themselves their miss... LOL : -)

Surprised? ; ) B&W is very good to take pictures with ; -) My first post has just 2 weeks. This is too little for all the hard work in-between. I've already invested a bit on this deal. I did it because I wasn't finding anything sweet to my own use with the P4K, that's where all began.  There's life beyond that!

I always try to avoid to judge without clue what I'm saying or thinking about. Life is a box of surprises. Mainstream variably ends like you mention now. We need some self-criticism, a bit of trial-n-error method and lots of goodwill to arrive somewhere. And to be ready for everything in order to accept the limitations of our own outcome when hits the fan. Perfect world only at the big screen's happy endings ; -)