Emanuel

Correct. That's exactly what I left well inferred in my post... : ) With camera operation like Kai has shown it will hardly be avoided. There's no auto mode for crappy use. Blame the operator, not the tool in the same way we must congratulate one for a shiniest outcome when occurs ; -)

Forgot to mention the XF 8-16mm f/2.8 R LM WR for double price: Here's the performance of all them with the new X-T4 vs the older X-H1 IBIS by FujiFilm: And now the OIS models:

Didn't pay attention to the others but Kai definitely has no idea how to hold a camera for a video shot at least in that video review... what a mess! LOL Let alone the dirty allover that beauty... I'm sorry but that way to operate a capture device is simply not acceptable to my standards... : ) Without mention the IBIS itself, which means, what it is, there are distinct modes:

Hope this won't be a Fuji issue either made in Japan or China. Never had a single problem with more than a dozen of Panasonic camera units made in any of both countries...

Very well, which means your theory is correct or both black and silver can be made either in Japan. Now needs to find a silver one also made in China... LOL Anyway, what can we know so far? Other than speculating ; ) In any case, I think it's more prejudice or tradition than anything else : ) Both can end fine, that is, if that guy DBounce was not correct... : D

For sure, Panasonic is ahead. And you don't change one system for another because of a camera announcement ; ) But each one have their quirks...

I guess it is safe to infer silver version will be made in Japan... Nice find cowboy ; -)

With the new XF 16-80mm f/4 R OIS WR what's your priority glass list? Here's my basics by ascending order other than that one: XC 35mm f/2 XF 23mm f/2 R WR XF 60mm f/2.4 R Macro Or replaced by the upcoming Viltrox 23mm, 33mm & 56mm f/1.4 for about 250 bucks each [specs and more info] : https://www.fujirumors.com/new-fujifilm-x-mount-viltrox-af-lenses-coming-before-march-31/ https://www.fujirumors.com/launch-of-new-fujifilm-x-mount-viltrox-lenses-possibly-delayed-due-to-coronavirus-outbreak/ And yet: XF 18mm f/2 R XF 55-200 f/3.5-4.8 R LM OIS (LM justifies for the motor twice the price of XC 50-230mm f/4.5-6.7 OIS II) Viltrox 85mm f/1.8 STM Of course, all this without mention the priceless XF 16mm f1.4 R WR (that would theoretically replace the 18mm) one of the most celebrated lenses ever produced or the wider 10-24mm f/4 R OIS for one grand each. Let alone the 50-140mm f/2.8 R LM OIS WR for that plus an extra half. Here's more on topic.

Now that we already have an estimated date for the new X-T4 (end of April), any update on the mount adapter from your side and your friend @heart0less ? : -)

And here is an article and another thread of a couple of days ago on topic.

That was the original and this one is the colorized 4K60p version:

Is this really important David? Seems to you, it is. I don't think it will be for everyone... To me this is what we take in the end; any of both will do the job even though 4:2:2 is theoretically an advantage to Panny, I like better the Fuji ergonomics as for instance -- let alone nice 240fps to make shallow DOF to shine besides superior CS (have any of you ever shot on B&W with a Fuji camera?) :

Thanks @MaxYuryev : -) From some other usual suspects: And more here:

The pack arrived but they didn't comply the delivery with required signature as hired and paid for. They simply left it into the mail box. Sender might be in trouble with eventual dishonest consignees going along such service pattern by the Courier.

Here's more available on these boards to read about such interesting topic indeed:

Not to me : ) @Andrew Reid @androidlad I think there's room for a grand and a half in EUR (without taxes) for IBIS, 4K60p @ 400Mbps 10-bit (even though 4:2:0 color sampling is actually a PITA*) to make the buck today, who knows when and where X-H2 will land? There's the rumor not along this year... *minute 26:33 from an old discussion on DVXUSER:

No worries, I think we have a great community here, the best online corner IMHO, with some good contributors such as you, one among of them : -)

Glenn, I think that can even bump exactly what you're saying... I just think this can help to also make it happen, isn't it? : ) I always feel this forum has much valuable information, it is a very rich resources variety of knowledge which invariably stays in the vault forgotten and hidden. At times, we don't necessarily need new or different but to preserve the already existent. Andrew can't stick everyone but this can serve as archive for the best of our choice. We're obviously free to keep going to spread and add more material to the different topics, of course. Last but not least, I really do appreciate index stuff, see them as very helpful tools. Information is key (E : -)

Very true. Authoritarian ticks is something we must fight, obviously. Indifference, no less. Without it, the mess we factually need to live with.

Many, must confess. Here are (only) a couple of suggestions: What about you?

@iamoui I understand your position, I don't like the State either to rule my world without mention all the usual stuff about individual freedom and the customary yadda yadda... Just a way to represent all of us. Is it in the U.S.? OK, I am American citizen for the subject matter then : ) Some other point turns out to be present as well: What society is this one where indifference on such, like human life, coexists at the same time as we all just attend this whole damned circus on TV?? Are you happy with the show? (On TV, Internet, etc) I am not.

Let alone this: All this could be trivial if a life wouldn't be lost... In a very useless purpose indeed. Actually the main reason why I am here. I can't be indifferent, I am not, I won't, I will never be. If this is to be politically motivated, so be it. @Grimor Not La Coruña (a bit strange... it would be too far away from Barcelos anyway), but nearby A Cañiza, somewhere between Pontevedra and (closer to) Ourense, the same Galicia obviously : -)