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The best practice for trying to hone a craft is to find something youre impressed with, deconstruct it, and then rebuild it yourself. Learn to walk before you fly. Editing is relatively easy but it's tedium too. Discover if it's what you want to do by doing it. If you make something decent and compelling you'll know by the end of the process if it's something you want to go through again.

I too miss the ergonomics of the camcorder, though I've never found myself needing more buttons on my Lumix mirrorless cameras. I just miss them because I feel like they are easier and more practical the hold and use for video. I'd steer clear of any camera that has smaller than a 1" sensor, less because of depth of field and more because of low light. Those smaller sensors, even in newer cameras, just completely fall apart. They don't really even look that great in well lit situations. If you don't mind used, the Panasonic DVX200 is a great option. It's basically a GH5, complete with M43 sensor, in a camcorder body. When my friend used my GH5 as a b-cam to it, the footage was nearly identical. It looks like it goes for about $1600 used. Sony PXW-Z90 is a very nice camcorder with a 1" sensor. I built an entire streaming business off these kind of Sony camcorders. Goes for under $2100 used on MPB. For more advanced cameras: The Panasonic EVA1 also might be an option. Used options in Excellent condition on MPB go for about $2300. That has a Super 35 sensor and allows you to use EF and cine lenses. On the Sony side, the Sony PXW-FS5 II is under $1500 in like new condition on MPB. The Canon Cinema EOS C300 II is under $2200 in Excellent condition on MPB.

For me personally, after getting so much use out of the 20-60 kit lens, I'd have preferred something on the wider end like that with a constant aperture. Maybe a f4?

Does it have to be a camcorder with integrated lens? If not, you might consider a Sony FS5 II, Sony FS7 II, or Canon C300 II. With a little more budget, it might look like a C70. I'm not sure of the price of entry-level power zooms for any of them, though. I'm also not sure if the Canons support LANC, but I think it's really likely that the Sonys do.

I'd prefer a compact 24-60 over the 28-70 I have. I find those first 4mm much more useful than the last 10mm

It looks pretty compact, which is nice, but yeah. Lumix did talk about making smaller lenses for the S9, perhaps this is one of them?

I mean if they use some sort of z6iii sensor with the same sort of read out speed but put a great OLPF in front of it plus Arri logC I’m kind of interested.

Hello again everyone, I've been a DSLR/MILC user for 20 years. I've worked in media/documentary jobs using these cameras with 1080p and 4K for video and of course taking photos. In general, I'm very satisfied with the image quality of the 4K video files I'm getting with my current Nikon and Canon gear (R8 and Z50). However, I'm hating more and more the ergonomics of these cameras for video. I simply cannot get accustomed to them. Newer MILCs have fewer buttons than older DLSRs and this has really started to aggravate me. Before going the DSLR/MILC route I shot with prosumer Mini DV videocameras 😨 The jump in quality to DSLR/MILCs was undeniable, but I really miss the ergos of tho se ancient machines. So, if I were to go back to a proper consumer/prosumer videocamera what would you recommend? I'd much prefer you guys give me some options instead of asking the gents over at DV Info and such fora. My requirements are quite basic: - Price between US$1500 and US$2500 new or used - Good to very good haptics and ergonomics for long form interviews that can last up to 2 hours - Decent AF - 4K resolution since I will be exporting to 1080p (I really enjoy the cropping and color correction possibilities of the larger files for lower resolution exports) - Two XLR inputs and two card slots - Integrated Power Zoom since I will using LANC device in my tripod - Unexotic files for easy NLE digestion in Final Cut X That's it. Other than the obvious Canon XA40, XA50/XA70 and XF400 I'm absolutely swamped by options offered by JVC, Panasonic and Sony, but I'm assuming they have some good stuff. Any recommendation would be much appreciated 😎

But why 24-60mm? Of all the lenses they could have developed for this launch..

A lot of leaked photos on l-rumors

I produce documentary and audiovisual work in the university setting. Until now, I have always used action cameras such as GoPros; I recently added the DJI Pocket 3 to film behind-the-scenes material. On more than one occasion, these cameras have saved me from a mishap. Not long ago, while recording testimonies from a prominent researcher in a humid environment, the main camera’s lens fogged up and the subject’s time was very limited. So I pulled out the DJI Pocket 3, placed it next to the main camera, and shot in 10-bit D-Log. They really liked the result. I also use it for B-roll, since I can quickly position it in hard-to-reach places, taking advantage of its gimbal stabilization and autofocus to achieve excellent results and save time.

Anyway, I'm interested in this. I think I'm ready for an S line with a dedicated video/photo button, top LCD and EVF and no crop.

Yes, sorry, I read and was thinking S1H!

You sure? The S1 and S1R were identical bodies from what I remember. Looking at them on CameraSize they're pretty much indistinguishable other than the badge, same dimensions and everything.

Thats true, allthough I am never really enjoying edits. I rather enjoy the images but thats just me.

I think the best approach here is to analyse what you like and try to replicate it. Once we begin to understand why we like something about an edit the process is much easier. Much more fun than trawling through endless tutorials explaining how to do stuff you don’t even like…

In the old days we had Canon and their leading APS-C sensors, the 60D was class of the field... Now we have Fuji taking pride of place for best APS-C sensors, 40 megapixels and great image processing. However there's a new country competing in the field, China. (Although it is really China + Sony joint collab) Let's see how close the Xiaomi 14 Ultra main 1" sensor gets to the mighty APS-C Fuji X-T50... I'll leave you to download the original files and draw own conclusions: Xiaomi DNG (50 megapixel UltraRAW mode): https://drive.google.com/file/d/15Es4s0RhRK1ZWIQL0vMx4WNv4OP2Rx2l/view?usp=share_link X-T50 RAW (RAF format): https://drive.google.com/file/d/17y31E6PYpYA2RGLjrhB4oTYbF5BsYWUo/view?usp=share_link Here's a sneak preview crop... 14 Ultra X-T50

I got a couple of Back-Bones-modified action cams - one was a Hero 7 and the other, a modified Insta360 1" edition. The one I should have got was the RX0 II since it's also a 1" sensor. The main problem is that the tiny action camera screens are awful for focusing. The Insta360 has no HDMI output so I end up monitoring with my phone and the connection has a lot of latency. The image can be really nice once I get the focus right, but it drives me crazy to get there so I only rarely take it out. It's too bad because the camera's a really nice match for C-mount and D-mount lenses. The Hero 7 (or maybe it's a Hero 8?) does have an HDMI port, but the latency is even worse than the Insta360 over wifi. Also the sensor is smaller which makes even wide angle C mount lenses into telephoto. The RX0 II has a usable HDMI port, but after not really using the other two, there's no way I could bring myself to spend $1,500 for it. I also had ripped the lens off of another old GoPro and got some M12 (or whatever size it is) lenses to use with it. It had the same problem with being hard to use, though I liked the look of somewhat less wide M12 lenses a lot more than the one that the camera had some with.

back-bones system. I looked at them too but for the price and the fact that you go from super wide to telephoto. From what i could find there didn't seem to be much in the middle. There's a good chance my understanding could be wrong seeing as the gopro was a first for me at the time. Which put me off, and you had to send a camera in or buy one.

kind of the opposite here. People are happy enough to wave a phone camera around. I'm more likely to see a camera on a public holiday or long weekend. Last easter i saw one of those harness rigs with a camera hanging of the front of it at local drag strip. The most action we see is the various car club and bike clubs coming out for the weekend. That's when your more likely to see cameras, when the tourists are in town. No idea where that poll i started went too, maybe the eithernet🙄 On the e-m1 front, i'm messing around with a painters pole as a substitute monopod at the moment. As i move away from from hand held, i figure the painters pole will at least stop the up / down side of things. Considering adding a strap to limit forward / side to side movement but i'll see how it goes first. Being a painters pole it extends to 8 feet or so and doesn't seem to have much flex in it. This thing is pretty rigid. There's a couple of camera "tube" claps at the top. The bolts look offset and they are, By a stroke of good luck the plate center ends up being center of the pole which should help with the balance. There's a simple L shaped cheese plate at the top. I can get the e-m1 rigged up to it however i doubt it will the the same mount thats on the tripod. I can look into making them the same, after i play with it for a bit. I also bought a prop, I have a couple of ideas to try. Its been pretty light on fuel ... the cap was on so tight and the pair of pliers i have were to small to fit around the cap. I had to buy a pair of multigrips to loosen it. I have some more thoughts on the em-1 in the "studio" as i have spent more time with it, however i need to go pump water for the garden and the chooks before it gets dark. Otherwise have a good weekend.

The machine you are suggesting should be a lot quicker than what you have … i have something that is 50% slower and I edit 10 cams of 4K braw. Realtime noise reduction is only 8-10 fps, but your 4070 should handle that if you need to. your bottleneck could be the SSD. Make sure your buy a nvme M2 big enough for your working projects. SATA ssd can be too slow.

The only time an action camera piqued my interest was when I came across that company with Bones in their name, who modified the things with cool little lenses. But then I realised I could get a small sensor such as the Sony RX100V. So did and that was the end of that.

S1IIE? Sounds like one of those really bad, over-priced ‘private’ number plate that Brits with more money than sense, spend their money on. I think it’s supposed to read phonetically as SILLY?

Latest rumors: two cameras and one is the S1IIE 😑 Introducing the Lumix S1II E – The E stands for everything you didn’t know you needed. Meet your new creative companion: The Eeprominator – Built-in memory so loyal, it holds onto your moments like your grandma holds onto your baby photos. E-Waste Not – Every shot counts. Even that accidental one of your foot? Frame it. Easter Snap – Hidden features? Secret settings? Surprises await in every menu. Emoticanon – Shoots in feels-per-second. Guaranteed to hit you right in the heartstrings. Exploitomatic – It finds the light. It finds the angle. It finds you. Lumix S1II E – Not just a camera. It’s a character