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It's relevant to the pricing strategy Panasonic is using, which is what Andrew and others are critiquing and I was responding to. Of course from an end-user POV you would want to compare against relevant used or discounted-new offerings. I waited almost two years for the first S1 to depreciate enough that I could afford it- got a minty one with the 24-105 for $2200.

You can compare launch prices, but thats not really relevant. What matters is what you can currently can get. And currently the S5II is 1600 new, 1350 used. Nikon Z6 III is 2200 new, the A7 IV is 2.349 new, 1950 used.The R6 II is 2400 new,2000 used. I dont know all the differences between these camera's, but i think they are solid camera's. Nothing that the S1II offers makes be go "mmm those features are worth the €1000 price premium"

You asked an easily-googled question and used phrases like "I don't pay much attention to new releases and am probably fairly behind but are there full-frame anamorphic lens options on the market just yet?" That phrase basically screams "do my research for me," as does the follow mention of the Blazar Mantis, a 1.33x anamorphic lens with an oval aperture and no autofocus, but in the context of "I thought I heard of..." which, again, is a thing that is easily resolved by yourself with a 10 second google search for "Mantis Anamorphic." As to the rest, lighten up, Francis. The point of most forums isn't for people to do simple google searches for you, but (hopefully) to have more interesting discussions. Asking things like "Does anybody have personal experience with the new Mantis anamorphics" or "Looking for experiences about the Blazar Apex autofocus anamorphic" might actually yield something interesting.

You think I honestly haven't looked? What the literal fuck is the point of this forum if i'm going to be told to "Google It" when i ask a legit question. I've been a member of this forum for nearly 10 years. I'm keenly aware that many people here do in fact have insider knowledge, and you had literally no reason to respond to me if you didn't have anything to add. I would have vastly preferred you just said "i don't think so" and moved on. Do me a favor, and move on. Don't respond again to this thread, you're not helping anyone including yourself. You must have better things to do right?

The only thing that makes this camera not of interest to me is the price tag. It actually seems like a quality release, but that's just not a competitive price for me at least. My first thought would be to upgrade from the S5II X to the S1II, and then upgrading my two S5s to S5IIs. But It'd make more sense to keep the S5II X and then upgrade the two S5s to the S5II for less than what a S1II would cost me. Still, it's a decent camera. I hope it does well.

To add to this, another thing you can do is shift the image up giving more room on the bottom for subtitles. Another thing you can do is put the black bar at the top for surtitles.

Ah, I missed that you said autofocus. Updated: https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=1.33x+anamorphic+autofocus+full+frame In short, yes, some exist, and no, nobody here would have any insight as to the product plans for anamorphic lens manufacturers next year.

Call it ARRIBA, impossible to sound less Germany. Lawsuit avoided. 😃

Are you actually gonna produce it? I'm ready to watch. Just keep in mind that outside of a fairly small community of camera nerds, nobody will really "get" it. If it were me, I'd try to make it more universal - could be a fashion influencer or similar. I'm sure that this pattern of stuff is really common among other influencer communities too - I'd think of like the Ezarik sisters who both do a bunch of lifestyle influencer marketing. They never met a robot vacuum, electric car, or new Apple release that they didn't love and showcase in a very postiive, nicely-lit, non-threatening way.

Even with 'Arry Log you have to be careful exposing it.

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With autofocus like I specifically mentioned?

Now it's in my head as well, where's that ignore button when you need it?! 😉 I just wrote an entire Black Mirror episode based on camera marketing and it actually came out quite well as a piece of dystopian satire. If anyone has any good ideas for it DM me. But please no sad washed-up social media grifter with a cat characters.

There are a number of full frame anamorphics on the market ranging from "affordable" to "costs more than a car." Otherwise, https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=1.33x+full+frame+anamorphic

I see it more as a Michael Caine voiceover and it had better “blow the bladdy doors off”. I’m thinking of a Harry Palmer/The Italian Job mash up.

Good Morning! Over the last three years I have scaled back from doing pro-work almost entirely. My career went into a different direction and I'm quite happy with that. Also my days of manual focus are done! Never again. That being said, I do still carry my A7CII around with me everywhere along with my 20-70 F4 G and 35mm f1.8 and have been making some "cinematic" home movies and vacation videos haha. I hate that term as much as the next guy, but the IQ out of this system has been excellent. Now, I have the itch to get into anamorphic lenses. I'm into anamorphic to preserve as much data from the sensor as possible so going 1.6-2x doesn't gain me anything as I'd lose the sides to cropping. I don't pay much attention to new releases and am probably fairly behind but are there full-frame anamorphic lens options on the market just yet? I would just love a ~35mm T2 with AF and a 1.33x squeeze that covers Full Frame. I thought I had heard of a new line called "Mantis"(?) but not sure if that's an autofocus system or if it will be. Should i just hold out another year and everyone will be making one?

That Kofi review I linked up-thread does just that, funnily enough.

Also a valid point for me because if I do end up swapping my S9 and pair of S5ii’s for an FX3 and a pair of FX30’s it will be for pure video use as it is now. I’m already with Sony for stills and having it all within one system as being able to share batteries and lenses, makes a lot of sense for me. Plus as mentioned in another topic, it would allow me to operate with 1 less body and 2 less lenses. And that is a good thing. And at very minimal cost to do so. Another very good thing!

Thank you for the info! It seems Prores Raw is whopping 4200Mbps so it’s about 2.69x more than 6k50p N-Raw Normal on Z6iii. No thanks, my SSD’s can’t take it and Final Cut is not good as Resolve for me. It seems Cined tested those for S1II: ”with DR Boost OFF in 4K ProRes RAW 25p, we get 11.5 stops at a signal-to-noise ratio of 2 (SNR), and 12.8 stops at SNR = 1. With DR Boost ON, we now get a superb 13.1 stops at SNR = 2 and 14.3 stops at SNR = 1” For the Z6iii 6k24p NRaw on 6k timeline Gerald got 9.89 stops and on 4k timeline 10.6 stops and with some NR 12.5 stops at SNR = 2.

As expected, Camera Conspiracies is not a fan. As always, it's recommended that fanboys of any system take his trolling with the biggest grain of salt.

I've now got a vision of the prostitute reaching for the marketing team's trousers and whispering "Lets Get Undone". Thanks for that.

Yeah, those aren't hybrid cameras and the intended user isn't here in this forum IMO (maybe the use ones). However, I would like to see a S1ii pitted against an Alexa shooting Arri Log. That would be interesting! The A9iii is roughly double the price of the S1ii. However, the R5C is not only less expensive than the S1ii, it seems to be more cinema oriented. I still be you'll have moiré with it though. Still, you're dealing with Canon, something I don't want to ever do personally. I think Panasonic, like what they did with their DFD shenanigans, are just hoping processing and software will "fix" moiré. Personally, I cannot believe, in 2025, we still don't really have AI options to fix it. We can basically make a whole film with only AI, but can't fix moiré in post simply and easily with the push of a button. Go figure.

It is a friendship, just a very transactional one. Only in this case the prostitute is not waiting patiently in Knightsbridge at a fancy bar. It's me.

Here’s a little tip for anyone being gaslit into believing they are friends with a corporation. Friends don’t have to threaten friends with a €35K fine for releasing their free marketing material a few minutes early. Friends don’t even have to ask.

I know why moiré and aliasing occurs and of course there are differences but as someone who has had important shots ruined by it and a as someone with a heavy addiction I’ve owned and tested more cameras than what is considered to be sane. And I can tell you this: a good olpf clearly makes a whole lot of difference both with regards to moiré suppression and the texture of details in the image. Canon R5(c) and the Sony A9iii has stood out to me when it comes to this. The whole A9-series have very good OLPFs and the latest iteration is no exception. Canon usually does well in the cinema department too and the perfect downscaled 8K to 4K and an OLPF is very effective on the R5-series. There is a reason the Sony Venice and the Alexas have dedicated teams who only work on producing the most effective OLPF possible.