Administrators Andrew Reid Posted Wednesday at 07:37 PM Administrators Share Posted Wednesday at 07:37 PM Providing a five-year social media history to border agents may become a pre-condition to entry as part of the rise of fascism in America. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1dz0g2ykpeo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Matthews Posted Wednesday at 07:57 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:57 PM 19 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Providing a five-year social media history to border agents may become a pre-condition to entry as part of the rise of fascism in America. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1dz0g2ykpeo The new entry-rule is doubleplusgood. Giving five-year socmedia record to Borderforce is only goodthink. Right citizens with nothing to hide welcome full truthcheck, for it keeps out crimethink, facecrime, and all ungood elements. Freedom is Strength, and more watch means more freedom. The Party merely sees what all goodthinkers already show. Only unpersons fear oversight. eatstoomuchjam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted Wednesday at 08:04 PM Author Administrators Share Posted Wednesday at 08:04 PM I think people see politics these days as a form of show-biz entertainment soap opera drama, what a surprise they are going to get when the frogmen smash their door in next. zerocool22 and John Matthews 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yannick Willox Posted Friday at 09:43 PM Share Posted Friday at 09:43 PM I guess you only need a couple of months to inventarise all your socials of the last five years. Is that including public forums like these ? also, every person you emailed, even if you got a new computer a year ago and do not have your complete history. On top of that all addresses and phone numbers of all family members, best friends, exes and current affairs you might be having. Probably that includes the number of deceased parents or family, if they did that within the last five years. so we basically need a P.I. to investigate ourselves to get into that shithole the US have become ? i think I’ll give a pass then … My guess is tourism will be booming the next couple of decades ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted yesterday at 06:26 AM Super Members Share Posted yesterday at 06:26 AM I haven’t been there for a while and was toying with a trip next year. To paraphrase King Arthur now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ND64 Posted yesterday at 09:52 AM Share Posted yesterday at 09:52 AM 12 hours ago, Yannick Willox said: My guess is tourism will be booming the next couple of decades ! Not much problem for christian nationalists who don't want to see non white tourists and non religious white tourists walk on their country's soil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted yesterday at 11:15 AM Share Posted yesterday at 11:15 AM On 12/10/2025 at 8:37 PM, Andrew Reid said: Providing a five-year social media history to border agents may become a pre-condition to entry as part of the rise of fascism in America. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1dz0g2ykpeo Crazy times, the UK lately has also been batshit crazy, now europe wants to introduce digital euro. Some politicians in Belgium wanted to approve an AI that scans all bank accounts of citizens to find frauds... I can't understand who finds this a good idea?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted yesterday at 02:19 PM Author Administrators Share Posted yesterday at 02:19 PM All of politics, completely out of control everywhere, and nobody seems to be able to get a grip. What's the common theme in all of our countries? Well, it has turned into a TV show, an attention economy, and that the people who enter politics for the right reasons have to play the game too, with a hostile media, be it old style TV debates, tabloid journalism or the new hellscape that is social media. Nobody has felt it necessary to protect the culture of politics or nurture a better calibre of politician, through better education and training... So you just get a load of narcissists or lackies going into it instead. It has become The Apprentice, it even has the same host. Everyone took the old style of politics for granted - we have never much liked the culture of it in the first place anyway, but as a result - it's even worse now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilkka Nissila Posted yesterday at 07:56 PM Share Posted yesterday at 07:56 PM 22 hours ago, Yannick Willox said: I guess you only need a couple of months to inventarise all your socials of the last five years. Is that including public forums like these ? also, every person you emailed, even if you got a new computer a year ago and do not have your complete history. On top of that all addresses and phone numbers of all family members, best friends, exes and current affairs you might be having. Probably that includes the number of deceased parents or family, if they did that within the last five years. so we basically need a P.I. to investigate ourselves to get into that shithole the US have become ?/ i think I’ll give a pass then … My guess is tourism will be booming the next couple of decades ! I believe it's just mainstream social media sites such as Facebook, Instagram, Twitter/X, LinkedIn etc., that they care about, not small niche forums on very specific topics not related to politics. I think it's safe to visit the US unless you have a written record of publicly speaking against Trump or his policies, in which case it might not currently be safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 19 hours ago, Andrew Reid said: Everyone took the old style of politics for granted - we have never much liked the culture of it in the first place anyway, but as a result - it's even worse now. Well honestly I am not sure the old style of politics was even better. Before social media, there was TV and newspapers (there still is). And the story was very onesided. Allthough they claim to be impartial, they were/are def not. And classic media was more easy to control. (yet also easy to pay ads for social media..) For example, I read an article about Elon Musk gets 96% more negative media coverage (not sure who wrote it or funded the research, but in my experience it def feels true). The man is a wacko, sure, but he is def the n1 executing entrepreneur who pushing the world towards the future. (spacex, tesla, starlink, x, neuralink, ...) The media criticizes every step he does and reposts it daily. Yet he saves 2 astronauts, and its almost crickets everywhere unless you are looking for that specific news. Offcourse bashing/hatefull posts get more attention over positive news, and that might also have an big part of the (human) problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted 11 hours ago Author Administrators Share Posted 11 hours ago 14 minutes ago, zerocool22 said: Well honestly I am not sure the old style of politics was even better. I don't remember Bill Clinton's government combing through a non-US citizen's personal politics at customs. It makes tourism a bit shit, doesn't it? If I had to go to NAB or to the US for work I would just not bother. 14 minutes ago, zerocool22 said: Before social media, there was TV and newspapers (there still is). Really I didnt know that 14 minutes ago, zerocool22 said: I read an article about Elon Musk gets 96% more negative media coverage (not sure who wrote it or funded the research, but in my experience it def feels true). The man is a wacko, sure, but he is def the n1 executing entrepreneur who pushing the world towards the future. (spacex, tesla, starlink, x, neuralink, ...) It was him was it? Have you ever considered it might instead be the thousands of employees of these companies backed by billions in venture capitalist funds and government NASA contracts. Also as far as "the world" and "the future" goes, they haven't moved the needle that far. SpaceX is just a private NASA contractor and they haven't even gone to the moon. Tesla is a failing car company, completely outgunned by China. Starlink consists of some satellites that ruin photos of the sky. And Neural link is an allegedly deeply immoral pig experiment. 14 minutes ago, zerocool22 said: The media criticizes every step he does and reposts it daily. Yet he saves 2 astronauts, and its almost crickets everywhere unless you are looking for that specific news. Offcourse bashing/hatefull posts get more attention over positive news, and that might also have an big part of the (human) problem. No. Critical thinking, and criticism is not the issue. Gullible bastards are. eatstoomuchjam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Really I didnt know that It was him was it? Have you ever considered it might instead be the thousands of employees of these companies backed by billions in venture capitalist funds and government NASA contracts. Also as far as "the world" and "the future" goes, they haven't moved the needle that far. SpaceX is just a private NASA contractor and they haven't even gone to the moon. Tesla is a failing car company, completely outgunned by China. Starlink consists of some satellites that ruin photos of the sky. And Neural link is an allegedly deeply immoral pig experiment. No. Critical thinking, and criticism is not the issue. Gullible bastards are. This reply feels unnecessarily hostile. We can disagree about Musk or his companies without resorting to personal attacks. I was simply sharing a perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted 10 hours ago Author Administrators Share Posted 10 hours ago 24 minutes ago, zerocool22 said: This reply feels unnecessarily hostile. We can disagree about Musk or his companies without resorting to personal attacks. I was simply sharing a perspective. To everyone I offended this year... work on yourself so I don't have to do it again next year. If after all you have seen, you still drink the Elon koolaid you deserve all the personal attacks coming to you. I have absolutely zero respect for your opinions or your feelings on the matter. It is entirely your responsibility that you feel insulted by what I said above even though it was objective fact and not at all personal. Elon is not a rocket scientist. He's a fucking twat face, alleged Nazi drug addict. I suppose you think his little fascist bromance with Trump was furthering the future of Planet Earth as well? eatstoomuchjam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: To everyone I offended this year... work on yourself so I don't have to do it again next year. If after all you have seen, you still drink the Elon koolaid you deserve all the personal attacks coming to you. I have absolutely zero respect for your opinions or your feelings on the matter. It is entirely your responsibility that you feel insulted by what I said above even though it was objective fact and not at all personal. Elon is not a rocket scientist. He's a fucking twat face, alleged Nazi drug addict. I suppose you think his little fascist bromance with Trump was furthering the future of Planet Earth as well? Thanks for the very open-minded and respectful exchange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted 10 hours ago Author Administrators Share Posted 10 hours ago I really don't think your hurt feelings should come into the conversation at all. They are not going to further the debate at all. "Feelings" are ironically why the world is in such a mess in the first place. If people listened and thought about reconsidering their misguided opinions when someone tells them the facts, the world would be a better place but instead they get all emotional, like a baby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Andrew Reid Posted 10 hours ago Author Administrators Share Posted 10 hours ago Elon Musk did not invent SpaceX alone. He stood on: NASA contracts public research global supply chains skilled labor pools created by public education Not to mention striking it lucky with PayPal and the sellout to eBay for billions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerocool22 Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago 50 minutes ago, Andrew Reid said: Elon Musk did not invent SpaceX alone. He stood on: NASA contracts public research global supply chains skilled labor pools created by public education Not to mention striking it lucky with PayPal and the sellout to eBay for billions. Yet it would not exist without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eatstoomuchjam Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago There have been numerous stories over the years, apocryphal maybe, but they were coming out even when the media loved Muskrat... anyway, the stories were frequently about how employees of companies like SpaceX believed him to be an absolute idiot and upper management believed that their main role with him was to block him from getting in the way. One of the most famous stories was about some fuel tank that was fracturing in flight. The engineers had some ideas, but Muskrat came up with some idea to put a layer of fast-set glue/resin on the outside that would stay liquid - and when the cracks started to appear in the tank, the adhesive would leak out and set, automatically healing the crack. All of the best engineers in the company said that the idea could not possibly work and explained why it couldn't. Yet, Muskrat insisted on an all hands on deck and everybody worked non-stop with the vessel and the resin until... Muskrat finally acknowledged that the idea couldn't possibly work. It sort of fits with a man who has basically failed upward for most of his life - such as how he got fired as CEO of PayPal after nearly running the company into bankruptcy with his bad ideas, but still owning a bunch of stock so that when Thiel transformed it to a profitable company and sold it to eBay, Muskrat came out with billions. Would SpaceX exist without him? No. Would Starlink exist without SpaceX? Also no. Did he invent Starlink? Also no. Would Neuralink exist without him? No, and who cares? It's a good accessibility play for people who can't otherwise operate a computer, but for the rest of us, do you know anybody who is loudly complaining that they don't have some shitty device in their head that will ultimately be used to shovel ads directly into their brain? Do you spend every day glaring at your computer wishing that your brain could directly control it? For Tesla, he didn't invent it at all. Outside of having a strong first mover advantage in terms of modern electric cars, they aren't very good. Quality control has always been lacking. Muskrat decides that for full self driving, they don't need industry-standard tools like proximity sensors, but instead they'll rely only on cameras. He did, apparently, invent the truck that looks like a small child drew it and which is almost universally reviled. So yay. Otherwise, what has Muskrat invented? Hyperloop - the dumbest mass transit invention in the history of humanity? 12 years later, there isn't a single operating hyperloop that you can go ride. And it turns out that vactrain concepts had existed for years before he "invented" that too. So... has he had a single novel idea in his entire history? Or is his "genius" really just in ways to exploit existing wealth to extract more money, mostly from the government? Andrew Reid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Administrators Andrew Reid Posted 2 hours ago Author Administrators Share Posted 2 hours ago 5 hours ago, eatstoomuchjam said: It sort of fits with a man who has basically failed upward for most of his life - such as how he got fired as CEO of PayPal after nearly running the company into bankruptcy with his bad ideas, but still owning a bunch of stock so that when Thiel transformed it to a profitable company and sold it to eBay, Muskrat came out with billions. Easy to fall upwards when you have 498 billion in the bank! What with all that money his personal life is still a binfire. Only have to look at that to see the true character of the man. All the messy multiple affairs and abandoned sons, daughters. That's what he's singularly able to achieve merely as a man when he's not got the billionaire oligarch hat on. When he's got the billions and the companies he's able to take the credit for other people's hard work and that's how he built his entire reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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