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5 hours ago, jgharding said:

That electronic ND is the best though, really wish it was in every camera.

Convenience has been my number one these days. I've only shot with the FX9 once but it was a dream. Its like being able to change shutter speed without effecting motion. 
 

Yeah its the same effect as if you cropped in post. 

6 hours ago, MrSMW said:

Oh and one other thing, I pretty much hate camera movement. Any. So IBIS for me is for stills and why I need to stick with mono or tripod for video.

I've tried everything switched on including the e:stab and it's good. Very good. But I still see movement and it bothers me.

My style simply is not handheld look, never mind pans or gimbal type work.

If I shot pure 100% video, then maybe, but I shoot 50:50 stills video and I have to draw the line somewhere in regard to what I can achieve.

And just personally prefer the static shot where the subjects move and provide the interest.

I think there is a big difference between handheld DSLR and handheld cinema camera though. After doing handheld with my URSA mini I realized there is a huge difference. I could shoot on a 50mm and get nice looking handheld shots where as on my fuji it would be a jittery mess. 

Do you have a specific example you could show us?

A third party needs to do an END EF adapter or something 

If shooting in Vlog on the S1, the colors on the G85 aren't really going to be doing you any favor in terms of matching. Of course you could shoot both in CineD. Fast lenses are a good option to workout low light limits on M43 but good fast glass is expensive. Cheaper lenses that are super fast are generally not the most usable wide open. But I guess again the question is do you actually need low light performance for interviews? 

The audio on the top handle isn't a big deal for me. You still have scratch audio and I never use an on camera mic with a gimbal. Usually would have an audio guy with a separate recorder, which is usually the case for anything. 

26 minutes ago, Oliver Daniel said:

I’m not so sure of this “disappointing” talk. The A7SIII got the same slack by many and that’s turned out to be an absolute marvel of a camera. 

The FX6 is what people asked for... an A7SIII with E-ND, XLR’s, SDI, S-cinetone and video ergonomics. Both cameras are unique in the market for what they offer. 

The handle thing is annoying and lack of LongGOP - yep I agree. It’s not perfect. 

I’m just wondering what people expect these days? A full frame compact video camera with 4k120 in 10bit is no longer good enough? 

All the manufacturers are smashing it and every camera released this year has gone beyond. 

 

I think its defiantly a good option, just a bit boring. The A7S3 has features that exceed this more expensive offering, which probably shouldn't be the case considering this is the higher end more expensive option. I do agree there is nothing to complain about these days. 

The GH5 is your cheapest and best bet. Of course it can't keep up with the S1 beyond 3200 iso and the dynamic range is more limited. However dynamic range isn't as important for say a close up B cam shot and I am guessing you usually light your interviews. 

The Fuji is a great deal and the image is a step up from the GH5 but the record limits suck for interviews. 

If you can get a used GH5 for under 1k I think its a good option. The 25mm 1.7 might be a good option. The rokinon/samyang 12mm f2 is a good wide angle option if can deal with a manual lens.

The Viltrox is a fine option. Wide open the viltrox is soft that is the one downside. Lens Turbo speedboosters are the best in terms of low budget ones, but they are fully manual. 

Vlog L and Vlog do not match but its certainly closer than SLOG vs VLOG or Vlog vs FLOG or any other log. 

28 minutes ago, scotchtape said:

If it had everything A7SIII had then you might have a point, but there are things the FX6 doesn't have / does less well, features like the codecs being less flexible for seemingly no reason.

hopefully that can be fixed in a firmware update. The lack of touch screen can't though. 

I use one of these for my Zcam

You won’t know the value of an END until you’ve used one. 

25 minutes ago, currensheldon said:

If they add 120fps, that would really be the only upgrade to the EVA-1 (which already has loads of 10-bit 4k codecs and 5.7k ProRes Raw).

I wonder if they'll swing for the fences a bit more to take on C300 III and FX9. Full-frame 8k? Internal raw (somehow?)? I wonder what they can do. 

I’m guessing it’ll be full frame which is the difference I guess. 8k could be interesting. 

I see the EVA2 being a 6k sensor with 120fps in 4k. I kind of think it will have no IBIS but I could be wrong. I am almost sure it will have the same crappy DFD auto focus. 

I imagine it will have RAW out and internal 10 bit 422 ALL-I. Hopefully it will have the option for high bitrate ALL-I like up to 800 but also as low as 100, should be an option. 

It really should have up to 10 stops of ND as well hopefully E-ND. 

3 hours ago, Mark Romero 2 said:

Watched the gerald undone review of the FX6 this morning.

Kind of confused that 4K Long GOP is only in 8-bit, and you would need to shoot in All-I for 10-bit 4K

Lack of even a 3.5mm mic jack on the body itself means if you take the top handle off to fly on a gimbal, you won't have any audio (except for tiny mic built in to body) is also a bummer. 

Phillip Bloom seemed pretty distraught over the handling.

Dynamic range the same as a7S III???

Seems like for a lot of people the a7S III might be a better fit...

Definitely some weird choices. I will say the E-ND will make the far apart dual ISO's a lot more manageable. 

3 minutes ago, Video Hummus said:

The thing I see this camera being really good at is slow motion in lower light conditions negating the need to auxiliary light. That is very useful for smaller productions on a budget.

The AF continues to impress. I think Sony may have surpassed Canon. They are neck and neck on the Mirrorless side, but on cinema Sony performs better.

Yeah those two things in combination with the E-ND are pretty amazing. Sounds like the menu design and interface is outdated which is a bummer. They should have just gave it a better LCD with a touchscreen. 

Looked at some review tests. The FX6 can turn off noise reduction completely and also has a low, mid and high setting. At 12,800 iso with high noise reduction their is still less noise reduction than the A7S3 at its lowest settings. Very interesting. The reason I'd want this over the FX9 is for better low light performance(more important to me than 6k) as well as 4k 120p. The color also looks on par with the FX9. Aside from very funky menus Sony really delivers very usable products. 

36 minutes ago, currensheldon said:

the no intermediate 10-bit 422 codecs and audio on the handle are both pretty big dealbreakers. Also not convinced Sony has fixed their IQ enough to go up against Canon and Panasonic. 

The FX9 IQ is great. If its like that except with a A7S3 sensor, that would be nice. 

I know its a shitty release but it would definitely interest me. 

Boxes it checks. Internal ND, Full frame, 4k 120p, great low light performance, decent form factor, amazing auto focus. 

If it doesn't have the overbearing Noise reduction that plagues the A7S3, its definitely tempting. Would be nice if it dropped 1k in price though. The main competitor would be the Canon C70 which isn't full frame and low light performance isn't as good. Not that it isn't also tempting. 

The biggest downside is no downsampled 6k, but I shoot a lot in HD still....

If Apple delivers I'll probably get the pro. 

2 minutes ago, SteveV4D said:

IBIS is a double edged sword and why I'm maybe happier and shooting better without it on the Pockets.  Like you I find it led to warping on wide angles and occasionally some telephoto shots.  Mostly wide angle though.  I find shots hand holding my Pocket 4K with a Canon IS lens and some Resolve stabilisation, do look a lot better than my GH5 shots with IBIS.  Though you lose some resolution doing it in post.

I use a GH5s on my gimbal and not the GH5.  I use the GH5 where I need to hand hold the camera on the go...  plus when its raining.   Its not a gimbal camera for me.

I think its very shot dependent. I used the S1 with a 35mm lens on a gimbal and it looked fantastic. It was a slower shot though without much if any panning. The main use for IBIS for me is more like getting stable more static handheld shots. IS can accomplish this too but I'd rather use my Canon FD glass or Sigma primes rather than a Canon AF lens or something. 

4 hours ago, MrSMW said:

For pure stills, the R5.

For pure video, the Sony.

For hybrid, could go either way depending on your picture requirements.

Would be my opinion.

Sony all the way if it wasn't for the damn noise reduction. I'd probably still buy Sony over Canon as I am not going to deal with record limits or artificial overheating limits. 

Detail is an issue though. If you really want to punch in a lot the R5 will be way better. Again though its the damn cripple hammer. 

How about the Panasonic S1/S5/S1H/S1R instead 

3 minutes ago, Mark Romero 2 said:

That's a good question.

I am not sure: Will the S1R be getting the VLOG update???

I am unsure on that. I know its getting 10 bit, looks like only up to 30p. I assume the 5k will probably be H265 10 bit 420 200mbps. Would make sense to include vlog but we'll see. 

Nice job. Looks a tad oversharpened though and I am not sure  how effective those blurred shots are, looks a bit too artificial. 

Yeah just small things like choosing the right DOF for the type of shot you are doing and the feel you want. 

I'd say locations may be the most important thing. Some locations you hardly have to do anything to, they just look good. Same with actors too honestly. Some actors have a Hollywood look and of course having actors who can deliver lines professionally is huge.