Ken Ross

Expensive for so little. Phew... a7 and successive versions had not gotten my heart either. R and S did, though.
GH5 rules for serious video/film work.

Really, not excited at all….anyway, I hope Sony changed the dead colors in this version…that will be a huge improvement.

My guess would be that either this thing overheats like crazy and they did not want the bad rep from video shooters,
or Sony got too close to Canon and they caught the virus of stupid market segmentation decisions

Orangenz, no problem with the 14-140 lens. I took about 4 shots and each time it focused perfectly. Examples:
 

Seems to be a lot of ? going on.

I never accused any reviewers of purposely trashing the GH5 and never even mentioned anything about viewership or hits on their websites. I have no idea why some of us owners have discovered the effectiveness of 1-area (it didn't take a brain surgeon to figure it out) and these reviewers have not. Now Panasonic has come out and agreed with us. So clearly we were correct and some of the reviewers missed it. Jon, if you or anyone can come up with a logical explanation for the oversight of these reviewers, I'm all ears.
I have been nothing but honest with this community. I've posted examples of my tests and posted additional tests at the request of members here. If that honesty and those efforts aren't appreciated, then I'm simply wasting my time and everyone else's.

Jon, you're probably right. Expectations were high as they touted the advance AF features that turned out not to work as expected.

Jon, thank you, I'm glad you clarified that. Just to avoid confusion on the AF subject, we're actually talking about two different areas of potential improvement. First, AF is improved in transitioning from 24p to 60p, with or without an external recorder. So for those that do shoot 60p, the AF will be improved, no need for an external recorder. 
Second, yes, AF will again improve going from internal to external recording. That came as a surprise to me, even though for me it's irrelevant since I have no intention of adding bulk and additional expense with an external recorder. I'm fine recording internally. I agree it's strange that v1 of the 12-35 performed better than v2. 

Reviewers want to get right under the hood of whatever it is they are reviewing. The Panasonic focusing settings appear to be the most complex set of parameters outside of NASA high command, with different settings working with different lenses (according to PhotoJoseph) in different scenarios - and even then only working some of the time depending on whether or not Mercury has attained its greatest elongation from the Sun.
Ken, on the other hand, has quickly found out that there are no problems whatsoever when using 1-area. Everything else is irrelevant to him because he gets the shot he requires in focus every time using this simple method. This is the method that I use on my Panasonic cameras and also on my Sony cameras (when not manually focusing). I have enough problems with aliens and burnt palms to be worrying about focusing on a plant pot when I should be focusing on the bride.
For Ken, autofocus works great.
For Max, autofocus needs a lot of working out to get the best results.
For PhotoJoseph - he should consider himself lucky that he is still a Panasonic Luminary.
For Sony a6500 fanboys - they are too busy laughing.
And that's about it. Everything else is an overlapping of those four points above. Keeping those four points above separate will give us all more time to go out and use whatever cameras we own, and that being said, I am off out to buy some cheap offcuts from the butchers so that I can film a fox that comes to my garden in the small hours.

I never accused any reviewers of purposely trashing the GH5 and never even mentioned anything about viewership or hits on their websites. I have no idea why some of us owners have discovered the effectiveness of 1-area (it didn't take a brain surgeon to figure it out) and these reviewers have not. Now Panasonic has come out and agreed with us. So clearly we were correct and some of the reviewers missed it. Jon, if you or anyone can come up with a logical explanation for the oversight of these reviewers, I'm all ears.
I have been nothing but honest with this community. I've posted examples of my tests and posted additional tests at the request of members here. If that honesty and those efforts aren't appreciated, then I'm simply wasting my time and everyone else's.

Not sure who you're talking to. I think there are cameras with better afc but this is quite usable and consistent. This thread is not for opinions and discussions about such things. There are, however, many many threads that would greatly benefit from such input. 

Laughing out loud! Shit.
Yeah I think Panny has some big troubles on their hand here with AF. They better fix this quick or this could get ugly. This thing reminds me of my Canon 1D mk III. It was so god damn complex you could never duplicate anything you did in the field. It had WAY too many options on AF, and that was the reason it sucked and it ended up like the GH5 is looking like. Too damn complex with all the settings it has. The 1dn mkII I had before it could AF on ANYTHING in a heartbeat. It had a very simple AF menu.
95% of the focusing problems with the 1D mkIII were user errors. But why make a camera that you can screw up AF so easy to accomplish LoL.

Yup, if it was me, I'd totally ditch the custom AF settings. Simply not needed and does nothing but add to the complexity and give the AF a reputation it doesn't have to have. These custom settings seem to attract some like there's no tomorrow. They grab on to them and won't let go, despite failure after failure. It's just amazing to watch. God forbid they try something as simple as turning the damn thing off and going with 1-area. Nooo, wouldn't want to do that.

Can't wait for the next 2 hour Max & Joe video to go over these again. 
No, it ends when people understand that you can use AF with the 1-area setting. It works just fine, thank you. I'm not saying that Panasonic shouldn't refine the other areas of AF if they insist on keeping things like 'custom', but it works fine today if you use the right setting.

You and me, Ken, I think you all know it... : ) On his newest test, the same here. Where are the different lenses? External recording tests? The whole range of settings? What the hell Joseph was going to do there? To be focus subject to the Max's GH5?

LOL. I don't know who Ken Stone is either, but I guess he's a nice guy.
I scrubbed through the Max & Joe video quickly and lo & behold, Max came to the conclusion that leaving off the custom settings they got good results. Whod'a thunk.  Unfortunately the damage has already been done from Max's first video where nothing was in focus almost ever. It's very hard for a piece of equipment to overcome that kind of bad publicity. That's why I wasn't as kind toward Max as some of you guys, despite his good intentions. I found it very frustrating to watch that first test knowing he was wrong and knowing the damage it was doing.

Wait, Ken Stone?

I'm sorry, I gave up after 10 minutes to see yet another round of testing to see if the camera transitions from a face to a lens 6" from the camera lens. I honestly don't know how often actual shooters face, in real life, the kind of scenarios that Max seems to love. I did the test in my house and never had an issue. And Max needs to revise his thinking about 225 point being the most horsepower, now that Panasonic is saying use 1-area. So yeah, I'm just crazy, I go out and shoot with this thing, 1-area AF, screw the custom settings, and have no AF issues whatsoever. Did that almost immediately after getting the camera and haven't seen any reason to change. This stuff just never ends nor does the misinformation. 
I also found it fascinating that no matter what settings they used, Max & Joe were getting better results than Max did in his initial testing when his brother would never come into focus? At least here, his brother always seemed to be in focus. I wonder why? Interesting stuff.

Orangenz, I do that all the time, don't I! Dang!!  

Orangenz, I do that all the time, don't I! Dang!!  

1-AREA lolol

I hope he was just testing his AF, because he's got some work to do on his exposure metering.
Now c'mon now, haven't you been reading, AF doesn't work on the GH5.

Ken...I think Panasonic will lose very few sales over this issue...as you know, in reality it's fixable for those needing AF...for those who hate this camera, you could put an Alexa sensor and processing at 4K in the GH5 body, and they'd still complain...because they made their minds up before the first image ever appeared online...I'm sure there are a few exceptions, but I think for the most part this already holds true...Jon...I can understand for your purpose that you may be on the fence...but then you already have the G85/80?...and the cameras are very close...but for anyone wanting to shoot anything, the IQ is a no-brainer...I can't keep thinking of the US election as a personal comparison to the GH5...to me with the election, the question that keeps coming up, WHAT PLANET DO YOU LIVE ON???...clearly not the same one I do!...anyway...it's the same with this camera...if someone hates this camera, I don't have either the verbal skill, nor the patience to persuade them...my only regret in this is that if Panasonic  sells many of these, more money to put into the next great GH camera from them a few years down the road... 

This is the camera they are going to use. No it's not the GH5.   It is the Iris one toward the bottom of the article.
 
https://www.urthecast.com/sensors/

Final battery test results under constant record 4k 10bit with screen open and on.
Panasonic battery (tested twice) 2:23:57 and 2:18:23.
Kastar batteries (tested once each) 0:58:57 and 1:16:23
Power2000 batteries (three+ years old, one failed) 1:24:59 
Charging Panasonic battery: 3:08+ to oem panasonic charge. 2:07 to lvsun charge.