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9 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

If I pinned 7 threads would you and Webrunner comment on every single one 10 times a day?

At this rate going to need a flood control not sticky posts!

Well, I guess that means time for me to move on. If it wasn't for us two there would be 5 posts a week. This forum is on its death bed. Has been for several months.

I think what is kind of crazy the older stuff is better looking than the new stuff for a filmic look. Less is more in a sense. Other than a BM 6k or a Red Komodo the older stuff wins in my book. So yes, going through older threads reveals some pretty damn nice looking footage.

So PannySVHS get that Sony F3 fired up.

 Yes, I remember him. He is Really big on shallow DoF. I could afford the cameras he uses but not the lenses he uses lol. He is very good with editing. Good glass and skill make it happen.

That was a super good video, thanks for posting. Looks like you have a Really good copy of the Sigma lens. They have amazing quality for the price. Women and their selfies, man what a way to spend your life lol.

You need to go with an Android phone to get the best results., Very little of all of the "aftermarket" apps or programs work on an iPhone. Raw is really the way to go if you want a lot of control. Be even some Android phones don't work well. Sony phones and some Samsung phones are not the thing to have. Some older 150 dollar ones work pretty well surprisingly, but the later models are best.

If you are just using it for yourself and not business why not. But trying to make a buck with it too many limitations. Think of it as a newer OG BMPCC and that is sort of a nice thing.

And you could do the tilting screen thing.

I know the wiring in those things are Crazy thin. Have to have better eyesight than I have to solder stuff like that.

If that would have been in B&W it would have looked even more 50ish. A little too much OOF for me but nice non the less. Yeah there are some old gems for lenses out there thrown in a box wasting away sad to say.

But fungus is slowly killing most of them. Might be a good business to open cleaning and saving them.

Picture I took with my new OnePlus 9 Pro in the Night Mode. It was not a timelapse just a snapshot. Pretty amazing, bordering on Sony A7s stuff. There was a full moon out, so I am sure that helped a lot but there is no light in the front yard, streetlight across the street. You can see from the stars how fast it was shot.

Well, you know I am all eyes and ears for Smartphone stuff. What amazes me is how on an iPhone especially right out of camera is really about as good as you are going to get for the average person other than DoF  stuff from a real camera and even that on my new OnePlus 9 Pro is not even bad.  They have the HDR, AI, Computational stuff Really down pat on them. The video side is amazing also. And sure, it is not great blown up to big sizes but who even does that anymore.

But yes, this raw stuff is really getting good and interesting. It is certainly the future for new people getting into all this stuff. going to be even more Super exciting down the road.

That is some pretty damn good looking footage though, Shame it wasn't taken further by Olympus, but I guess they had enough on their plate we didn't know about at the time. Yikes.

I will be honest; I as most know on here am on the Smartphone train and doubt I will leave it anytime soon. A lot has to do with me being retired and on a fixed income. If I buy something I have to sell something to get it done. It sucks to give up some damn good stuff. Plus, my back as of late is absolutely killing me so carrying big stuff doesn't help either. 

And to be honest the output from Smartphones now is actually good enough for MY needs so heck why bother. I have to blame Andrew for considering them, he has shown some great photos and footage from them on his Twitter account.

I am not getting rid of every camera I have but the new stuff is interesting to me to read about on here but buying it probably not going to happen. Not until are few years later when it is a Really great price used. And by then Phones will be even better. Hmm I see a pattern here lol. I have a lot of old cheap glass, so I am always up to using that stuff. And still have ENG lenses, so hey not giving up without a fight. So I am hanging in on here till Andrew kicks me off I guess, or I fall over dead, or whatever. 😨

I think a lot of the grain you saw when you went to a real indoor movie theatre was actually from the screen. It is not some shiny material by a long shot. It was designed to be non-reflective from different angles. Probably drive ins were the same.

2 hours ago, BTM_Pix said:

The state of the art - which still doesn't actually match the requirement of full RAW shooting at 24fps - would be the Sony A1 which in APS-C mode can shoot at 20fps in compressed RAW with an unlimited buffer.

Not a small price but neither is the requirement.

There is also the matter of the memory card usage and battery life restricting the practical usefulness of it.

The €400 160gb CFExpress card will give you five minutes of that 20fps APS-C compressed RAW storage but the bigger issue being the battery on the A1 being rated at 430 shots which will give you about 21 seconds of footage before it gives up the ghost.

It may be that interpolation improves dramatically over the next few years but it will likely still take something fairly high end (i.e. a sports camera) to make it viable because even at a reduced frame rate it will still need a big buffer so until then the closest option is paying €7.5K for a camera that shoots just above the frame rate of a Super 8 cine camera and chews memory cards and power at an alarming rate.

There is, of course, a stills camera that exists that gives you a "burst rate" of up to 30fps RAW in full frame with very modest power requirements and far more affordable media where that €400 will buy you closer to five hours of footage rather than five minutes.

For about 20% of the price too.

To demonstrate the diminishing returns of stills RAW burst vs internal RAW on the same camera, I've just taken this comparison of an uncompressed RAW in stills mode on my Sigma Fp with the 12bit cDNG RAW frame in cine mode.

For me personally, such differences that are there are definitely insufficient for me to take the ball ache of trying to make the stills mode into a cine mode.

One click on Auto in Lightroom gives this result. Not that big of chore doing it in batch files. Sure, the video one is better but who is going to notice it not side by side.

12 hours ago, MrSMW said:

The red one can only be used with prime lenses.

I must admit I had to think on that a bit. 😨

Yeah but the Canon C line is about the only older stuff you can actually handhold for long periods of time., Sure there are better cameras but heck they need to be on sticks to work. That is pretty old hat in this day and age now.

Picture I took with my new OnePlus 9 Pro in the high MP mode. straight out of camera, but I did crop it a bit. Was in the 45mp mode. Only ends up like 11 to 18mp so far?

Well, my friends and I went out for a ride. We are all beginning to look alike I am afraid. Well at least we didn't have to walk all the time. Only picture was this group photo. That is me in the front, picking my leg.

Not much action on here today, so I figured I would contribute something. Looks like I am losing my hair, Yikes.

Yes, I have seen some Really good footage from it. It seems like the way to go if you are serious about video and have the money. But if you are sort of serious you should be able to make money with it so it is not that bad maybe in the long run.

And just about every client knows about a Red camera, so that would help also make a person able to charge a bit more.

https://lowepost.com/insider/videogear/build-the-perfect-red-komodo-camera-rig-r63/

Specs:

Sensor type:KOMODO® 19.9 mp super 35mm global shutter cmos

Effective pixels:6144 x 3240

Sensor size:27.03 mm x 14.26 mm (diagonal: 30.56mm)

Mount type:Canon RF mount

Max data rates:up to 280 mb/s on cfast 2.0 media cards

REDCODE® RAW max frame rates:40 fps at 6k 17:9 (6144 x 3240)
50 fps at 6k 2.4:1 (6144 x 2592)
48 fps at 5k 17:9 (5120 x 2700)
60 fps at 4k 17:9 (4096 x 2160)
120 fps at 2k 17:9 (2048 x 1080)

Playback frame rates (project time base):23.98, 24, 25, 29.97, 30, 50, 59.94, 60 fps, all resolutions

Best available REDCODE® settings:REDCODE HQ, MQ and LQ at 6k 17:9 (6144 x 3240) up to 40 fps
REDCODE HQ, MQ and LQ at 4k 17:9 (4096 x 2160) up to 60 fps
REDCODE HQ, MQ and LQ at 2k 17:9 (2048 x 1080) up to 120 fps
REDCODE® RAW

Acquisition formats:6k 17:9 (6144 x 3240), 2.4:1 and 16:9
5k 17:9 (5120 x 2700)
4k 17:9 (4096 x 2160)
2k 17:9 (2048 x 1080)

Apple ProRes:4k (4096 × 2160) at ProRes 422 HQ and ProRes 422 up to 60 fps
2k (2048 × 1080) at ProRes 422 HQ and ProRes 422 up to 120 fps

Construction:aluminum alloy

Weight:2.10 lbs (without body cap and cfast card)

Battery type:two slots for bp-9xx series batteries

Dc power input:+7 to +17 v dc via the integrated 2-pin dc-in port

Color management:image processing pipeline 2 (ipp2)

Audio:integrated dual channel digital mono microphones, uncompressed, 24-bit 48 khz

Additional dual channel:integrated 3.5mm audio jack, uncompressed, 24-bit 48 khz

Remote control:wifi for camera control via interchangeable antenna with SMA connection, genlock, timecode-in, GPIO and ctrl (rs232) via the integrated 9-pin ext port

Wired control:komodo link adaptor, using usb-c or gigabit ethernet (compatible usb-c to ethernet adapter1 required) allowing camera control and live mjpeg preview video feed

Monitor outputs:12G-SDI with 6G-SDI, 3G-SDI and 1.5G-SDI modes
12G-SDI: up to 4096 x 2160 4:2:2 for 60p
6G-SDI: up to 4096 x 2160 4:2:2 for 30p
3G-SDI: up to 2048 x 1080 4:2:2 for 60p
1.5G-SDI: up to 2048 x 1080 4:2:2 for 30p, 24p
SMPTE timecode, HANC metadata, 24-bit 48 khz audio

Monitor options:integrated 2.9″ 1440×1440 touchscreen lcd with preview and camera control

Wireless live preview video feed:2.4ghz/5ghz wifi for framing

Sounds like you need a Blackmagic PK6 Pro or a Red Komodo.

Yes, it is pretty suspiring how many cameras have a mini or even a micro HDMI. Stupid system for sure.

By the way I think your GH2 stuff was some of your best work. Magic camera, I even use your hack. Really Like it. Maybe in your younger days you had the raw desire to go out and do it. I know I just find all kind of reasons not to go out, some real at my age, but..

Like I said in a earlier post that I think Only high end stuff is going to survive. So what they are suggesting is no surprise to me. So yes, I think m4/3 is probably toast. It is going to be 5000 dollar stuff and above that makes it.