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Well eBay is like anything else, if it is priced well it will sell, if you are asking a crazy price if will never sell, but you can get a lot more on eBay than if you sell it to Adorama or B&H.

But why not a Panny S5 or a Panny GH5 over a XT3?? I have got to the point that I F ing hate FF lenses for the size and weight.

Another problem is their lenses are of no use to any other brand. Pretty limiting also. They make nice stuff, but it is akin to Pentax, more a cult thing than useful..

Well, that is the problem, they have very few lenses suitable for good video usage.

Yeah, I did programing and am pretty good at electronics, I was a Ham Radio operator also, but well to be honest too lazy now, and I have forgot a lot of the programming stuff, and even if I didn't, they are using newer program languages now.

I am sort of content on being sort of stupid as of late, it happens you know when you get old lol. Yikes. ☹️

Wow not sure Fuji would be on my radar for video in this day and age?

Well, I am sure you probably aren't going to use the thing for some high end paid job. It is mainly I think for people that doing it for fun or learning the ropes on how to do all this crazy stuff. But some wiz kid will see the app and make a better app and on and on and it might really get super good. So good BM adds Lidar to the camera, hell why not.

Glad to see the OG is working out for you. No real surprise it can look great with skill. They are a great learning tool also.

But the "Smartphones will never replace it" statement while true today you can't say that it won't Never happen, who thought they can do what they do now in such a short amount of time. The tech on them is Miles ahead of regular cameras and will continue to stay way ahead. It won't happen tomorrow, but they will replace probably every camera other than super top end stuff for the movie industry down the road. I give them like 4 to 5 years to almost make that happen. They are not a lot off now. I think most camera manufactures are going to be out of business down the road. There are not enough Pro users to keep it going. For 99.5% of the people they are good enough right now. If they had one with a great zoom lens on it I would never buy a real camera again.

Well, the iPhone 12 Pro is Apple's first smartphone with a Light Detection and Ranging (LiDAR) scanner on the back. So you could use it also and a cheaper option I guess.

6 hours ago, MrSMW said:

Sure: https://firehorsephotographyfrance.com/2022-weddings/the-two-sams-wedding

 

Really top notch stuff Simon. You had to be one busy person doing what was involved in that wedding. Hats off to you.

Yeah, you have to nearly shoot wide open using film that you are bound to get X amount out of focus. Film is not easy to use in any aspect of it. Although if you have ever seen some of Ansel Adams B&W stuff in person it is pretty special. But using an 8x10 negative sort of helps lol.

Largest view camera I ever had was a 5x7. Had lots of 4x5 ones. I loved shooting with them. A Toyo field camera is a treat also.

What shocks me today is how many frames people shoot for a wedding. I used a Hasselblad and I never shot over 3 rolls of 220 so around 60 to 66 shots, 4 maybe if it was a huge weeding.  I might have a 3rd body loaded with B&W at times. Now people shoot hundreds, hell maybe thousands. Yikes. How things change.

We were sort of limited about how long our battery lasted on the strobes.

Cameras in this day and age have pretty darn good metering in them. So, on Auto you can trust them. The problem is when you go manual. If you have Zebras in your camera and set them right, you should be pretty safe. On my GH5 you have the waveform display, that is a crazy good way to judge stuff. False Color is good I find for static scenes but moving around it makes me well dizzy following it. 😬

If you are doing it for fun I would not get too excited about being perfect. Plus, if you have a camera with not a lot of DR it is pretty hard to get a killer look. The trouble in this era is we tend to change cameras a lot or even have several of them and we don't get used to how they react to different scenes. Practice makes perfect as they say.

One for 2000 bucks at Lens Rentals. Good deal. You could make that much money in one job with that cam.

https://www.lensrentals.com/buy/root/video/cameras/brand/panasonic/panasonic-ag-dvx200

Yeah, they haven't got it figured out yet, but no doubt they will fix in the long run. Just a matter of time.

Hmm that is an interesting concept.

That was probably shot with his Nikon. 😜

I have never used it, but I can tell you when using 8bit stuff the trick is to get it as perfect in camera and it is pretty damn easy to grade. You can't edit crap footage when using 8bit. It is unforgiving. You might not even need log if you get good at it. You really need a light meter to be good at it, and a good ND and a Polarizer.

Well for all you BM guys out there looking for focus and AF help this may be a cheap answer.

3 hours ago, BenEricson said:

They use all kinds of things; Handheld rigs, Dolly's, Tripods, etc. It depends what type of visual language that you're trying to achieve with the movements.

A steady cam doesn't replace the feel of a weighted camera with multiple points of contact. It's a different look entirely.

It looks way more natural than a Gimbal. I am a old ENG guy I know what a weighted camera does. But they weigh 20 plus pounds. And even then you don't learn how to use them overnight, or a Stedicam either.. Video is hard.

I am serious about using a Steadicam. I have the small one and it works great for the OG. What do you think movie sets use, Steadicams, or the high end Movi gimbal that has batteries and monitors etc. adding weight to it that only they can afford.

Trouble is you have to do the duck walk with any of them, so you look like you lost a bet using it. 

I don't envy you. Weedings were usually the most stressful stuff I shot on average. It was worse at the time because of film. I did my own developing for a while and gave that idea up pretty quick. Just too time consuming and the person I had doing it for me was great at touchups which I wasn't good at. Good money but a pretty lousy way to make a buck both time wise and stress wise, not counting missing out on family time. But somebody has to do it I guess.

I am so sick of seeing gimbal footage I could vomit. It looks fake as hell. Wee look I can fly.

Sure but you can put film grain on anything in this day and age. So, if the person did that than it looks more like film. Well, it might, you are sort of right. But film has some magic pixie dust that to be honest I can't put my finger on, and I think most people can't either. On paper it ought to sort of suck, but it doesn't. 

I am not sure the OGBMPCC has grain to it, or it is just sort of shity and it worked out to be great. Probably both reasons, more to the latter.  All I know is in this day and age the footage from one is a wee bit dated and sort of out of fashion, I think.  The PK4 is pretty much in in this era.   So that video is better than you think.

All you say is true but the video above your post was shot on an 275 dollar new phone in 10 bit Raw with a free app, and to my eye is not a hell of a lot off from the look of an OG BMPCC. That is pretty damn impressive. 

Sure, it is not an Arri but if you are a new videographer wow what an opportunity to show your stuff to the world no matter your income level. That alone makes it pretty freaking amazing to me. When I got into this stuff ANYTHING video related was a F ing fortune even used to buy. And even then, it was just 360p, 480p.

Terrible looking stuff, but it was the best there was even broadcast wise. You had to squint to even look at it lol. Didn't matter if you were in focus or not nobody could tell.

This one is Really good. Shot on a HP Poco X3.