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Lets move on from the catfighing. Color science preference is a pretty subjective field. Super8 I'm curious what do you find is so horrible about the BM P6K color science? I watched the footage and didn't notice any distinctive flaws. Personally I'd say all current gen cameras have pretty good CS. Sony still struggles in mixed lighting. Black Magic had tint problems on some previous gen models, but not anymore I think. Canon are renown for their skin tones. Shoot RAW or Log anyways if you wanna grade and add your own flavour.

What a bunch of nonsense. You think you know me but you don't know shit. I'm probably one of the most brand agnostic persons around here. While I have my preferences when it comes to camera companies for various subjective reasons, I started photography on Nikon equipment and still shoot film with them. Did a lot of work on the D750. I was one of the first here to go all-in the Fuji hybrid revolution with XT2. My favorite camera is my Leica M9P. I've owned the A7S2 and I also currently own a Sony FS7, my professional workhorse. Finally I won't hesitate to rent a RED/ARRI or whatever if budget/crew allows it. Oh and I won't even go into lens manufacturers. So you see trying to pigeonhole me as a Canon fanboy is pretty ridiculous. Its not cuz I enjoy a particular camera, that I hate others. I stand by my word about EOS R. As flawed as it may seem, for my personal usage its a great hybrid. Laugh all you want.. IDGAF. I work within camera systems. The body is only one element.. That said, I never stated EOS R was perfect or better than any other camera. I only defended it against attacks of those that thought it was a useless POS. Most of whom never even picked one up. And that's one thing I don't understand in these forums is people talking shit about gear they have never touched or have any intention of using. That to me is true fanboyism. Cuz see you're attacking me for a camera I appreciate. It's so stupid man. Doesn't make me a Fanboy. It does however make you look like a Hater.

I knew Sony would flake on us... again. A7S3 is vapor ware. XDCAM managers are too afraid to give Alpha line the kind of power it would need to compete. They’re basically in limbo over that camera. Meanwhile Canon leapfrogged the whole industry and are going for the kill. Its funny listening to the R5 bashers, most of them shook fanboys. When Canon falls behind, they get ridiculed. If R5 had normal specs, they would say they are late to the party. Now that they’ve exceeded everyone’s expectations, they claim it’s overkill. In Japan 8K isn’t that far fetched, some channels are already broadcasting it. Apple has had 5K iMac’s for years, and I saw today on YT an 8K laptop review. Speaking of YT they already stream 8K content and it already looks pretty crazy on my 5K iMAc Pro. 8K will allow you to crop & get even better 4K. While nobody here really needs it, it’s still cool it’s there and trust me it will pave the way for other 8K cams, computers, monitors etc. And first and foremost content. 4K120 is also pretty damn sick considering 4K60 is still absent from most FF cams. I won’t even talk about internal RAW, ergonomics or CS.. Anyways it’s funny seeing how the tables have turned in just a generation gap!

I'm honestly thinking about dropping my C200. Can't really justify keeping it alongside the FS7 in the current climate (even though on CS, ergonomics, DPAF & RAW capabilities it crushes the FS7). I'm holding small hope for a middle codec but if not it'll be up for sale soon which really bums me out.. 😒

In terms of I/O, EVF, Ergonomics, ND, exposure tools, LUT support, battery life ..etc any dedicated cine cam obviously crushes a sports DSLR or even a MILC! I think that's pretty obvious. The news here is that on resolution, codecs and HFR.. Canon is not only no longer putting out inferior specs but superior ones in some instances which is quite surprising. I have no doubt that Dynamic Range & Rolling Shutter will still be on top of the cine side. But still I don't think many saw this coming, especially from Canon. I'm also glad they're starting to unlock their "lower end" cine cams. Also a sign they are shifting strategies for the better.

You seem awfully sure of your predictions. Almost like some of you are strangely anxious to see such limitations arrive. Against that train of thought I have one model name: 1DX mark 3. 5.5K Raw, 4K60P. FF. No crop. Full pixel readout. 10-bit. Passive cooled body. In a few ways that camera already surpasses the C200 / C300 mk II specs. Clearly Canon are changing strategies. They are maxing out their flagship DSLR/MILC range. Even if those limitations you speak about exist, they will basically be law of physics limitations. I don't see how that could possibly be considered pulling a "cripple hammer"? They just announced a bunch of updates for their cine line too btw: Canon U.S.A. Announces a Host of Firmware Updates for Professional Imaging Products Looks like instead of crippling their consumer cams they are now looking to upgrade their cine range specs. Surprising to finally see SDI + HDMI support on the C200. I'm really hoping they go all the way and unlock 10-bit codec.

Why are you getting so worked up bro? I gave a sensible explanation. all you seem capable of is personal insults. Who's the one not only acting insecure but immature? Nobody here care what your work buddies use/don't use. Topic isn't "Show & Tell School Day". I never had an interest in Panasonic cameras. You don't see me in Panasonic threads talking shit. Ease up or GTFOH.

Sorry my bad.. replace butt-hurt [Sony] fanboy with [Nikon/Fuji].

Looks like my comment has got some Sony fanboys triggered. Canon actually had their Cinema division work hand in hand with Imaging to produce R5. That’s how they leapfrogged the competition. I stand by my words, only Sony can compete in this FF hybrid battle due to their AF & sensor advancements. But they will have a hell of a hard time matching let alone trump Canon on this one. The specs are out did you not get the memo? 8K / 4K120fps + IBIS > 5.9K / 4K60p + EIS Obviously the C500ii has a slew of other advantages that are proper to Cine cams of that price range but on resolution, HFR, stabilisation.. YES the R5 outperforms the C500ii. And on the codec front they are similar which is also unprecedented considering the C200 doesn't even have 10-bit internal. Log options, recording times, media, I/O, NDs etc.. obviously all goes to the C500ii. What you can't seem to get a grasp on is that it's a first for to have a consumer line hybrid stills cam outperform a dedicated cine cam on both resolution and HFR.. as well as equate it on codecs and sensor size. That alone is huge and a total game changer. DR & RS? Of course it will probably still tilt towards the cine cams. C300iii even announced a breakthrough in the DR department. Canon aren't crazy, they will not stop developing & innovating their cine line, I never ever stated that. Their strategy however is to stop pulling the cripple hammer on consumer division. They've realised the +$10K cine market isn't the same as their consumer hybrids and that there is little to no risk of cannibalising these two markets. If anything, pros will buy BOTH cams for A/B purposes. Again this is a giant game changer as far as imaging/cinema strategies within a Japanese company. I know its hard to believe this is all coming from Canon, a brand many had lost all hopes, but it's true. These are all FACTS, not some dreamed up unicorn A7S3 R5-Killer Sony fanboy wishful thinking. If you don't realise that, then you're the one who should take your own advice and get a grip on reality.

With these monster specs, Canon is really aiming at crushing the competition, and possibly flushing out Panasonic & Nikon from the FF hybrid game. Sony are indeed the only ones that are capable of competing but that would mean making a camera with higher specs than their new FX range and that's going to be a huge dilemma for them. Heat management is also going to be a major problem for them in their current form factor, and Sony prizes themselves on their compact products, they hate the idea of going bulkier on future models (dates back from the Japanese miniaturisation philosophy on consumer electronics). I honestly don't see any camera company challenging these specs for the forseeable future. Its kinda nuts what Canon are achieving here!

Yeah well better early than late to the party! (by the way, R5 production is also delayed until probably Q3/Q4)

Also let's not forget the FF mirrorless market has become crowded: Canon, Sony, Nikon, Panasonic, Sigma, Leica.. Seems Canon wanted to leapfrog everyone in time for the Tokyo Olympics.

Of course it is real IBIS: For the first time on any Canon camera, 5 axis In Body sensor movement Image Stabilisation is offered which works in harmony with Canon RF lenses to combine Optical and In-Body Image Stabilisation to provide the ultimate in shake free super-sharp images and movies. https://www.canon.co.uk/cameras/eos-r5/

Canon are going in for the kill with C300mk3 & R5. Cinema & Imaging teams working hand in hand is a beautiful thing for us, and something Sony needs to learn from.

Pretty sure a COVID-19 vaccine will be out before a new A7S. R5 sent Sony back to the drawing boards for the 28th time. Must be hard trying to exceed expectations in such a crowded industry.

The potential overheating issue is much more of a deal breaker to me. You got a link to that video? I was set to purchase a X100V as travel hybrid but the camera overheated after 5 minutes (!!!) during a basic 4K test at the camera shop. Even during still shooting I could feel the back of the camera get hot (now a known issue on the X100V). I'm sort of fearing Fuji is cramming too high specs for their compact bodies, a problem Sony got into around A7R2.

That ain’t s*** :

That's pretty neat you got a direct response from the CEO! Lotta bugs on this unit it seems. A shame considering its price point. Keep debugging / reporting issues, hopefully in couple months the FP will be solid. Haven't shot with it personally, but I really enjoyed the build quality..

Yeah similar situation in France. We're officially on lockdown but still quite a few people in major cities not taking it seriously enough. doesn't help that there are major loopholes in the official document you need to fill out to go outside. We're on day 6 here and I'm already fighting depression.. business has ground to a halt, far away from family & friends. don't even have my music recording equipment to work on those songs I never usually have time to put into. on the upside all camera related GAS has suddenly vanished.. and at least I managed to escape to the countryside, Paris was a mad house.. good luck to everyone!

...wording sounds pretty clear to me!

@mercer standard resolve RAW settings tab. @gt3rs should work on the free version (I can import and get access to the same RAW tab settings on C200 files using free version). it is great it is already compatible although makes you wonder perhaps 1DX3 CRM file is similar structure if not identical to C200 CRM files.

Yeah they're not yet flying reviewers to Vegas or the Bahamas to get a hands-on.. there is still some ways to go lol. I also think there is just genuine interest/hype over this camera as it's really a class-leading APS-C hybrid. As for the "more buttons & switches" comment, I didn't really notice that. They just relocated stuff around to make it more balanced towards video.

Here is some low light footage using IBIS+EIS from an actual DP who knows what he's doing and not trying to VLOG: Looks pretty smooth & artefact free to me..

I think the main problem coming from these videos is that 90% are made from photographers that have limited understanding of video work. They think IBIS is a gimbal replacement or some sort of steady cam. It is not. If you add to the fact a lot of the footage displaying wobble artefacts are probably using the new EIS feature, well that just adds to the misjudgment of the IBIS. From the few footage that uses the IBIS correctly, it seems to me that it works really well. Nothing to worry about. Same thing for AF, even Canons dual pixel AF isn't flawless and won't replace a follow focus. There is actually technique to maximise a camera's AF sticky rate. Lens choice, lighting can also alter performance. That's not to say these pre-production cameras don't have issues, but until they ship these videos are just what they are: an early hands-on approach.

I have the opposite experience but to each their own, I'm not trying to impose my views.. just stating my preference.