DPStewart

Great topic guys. 
Vimeo started this shit almost 3 months ago and have changed nothing significant. In various topics on their forum, I have posted over 15 times stating my unhappiness with the current system. First in kind words, later in more clear language. And lately just fucking rude but who gives a shit. I'm bored with them and the fact that they don't take their paying customers, like me, seriously.
They have put fingers in their ears and are singing 'lalalala, Adaptive Streaming is great, lalala'. In their latest update they even say literally 'STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT AS IS GREAT'. Lol. Just a big lol.
We all agree on the flaws of this system and how it can harm us video producers, but you know what's even a better argument? They are actually already experimenting on our business for the last 3 months. Without any notice or offering any alternative, they just implemented this shitty system. 
Still the first 10 seconds of all my video's start in 360p. Still, sometimes DURING playback, the resolution changes to 360p. 
Why didn't they test this system on their own shitty video's first and implemented it when it was 100% functional? Nope, they just wanted to test it in the field I guess. On my films.
It's outrageous, really. Everbody, cancel your subscriptions right now. Stop the auto-renewal of your membership right now. It's the only way how they might ever consider changing some stuff back and giving us some control back. They don't listen to our words but they will listen to money.
If you want to make a point, stop your membership right now. It has more effect than just complaining. Believe me, I tried.

got this reply earlier today
theres power in numbers!! lets keep hitting these guys up

http://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/products/cmos-image-sensor/camera-cis/S5KVB2?ia=218
Says 25fps for the full sensor. That means about 9ms per line, which results in about 30ms minimum frame time for a 16:9 crop. Hence the 30fps maximum for UHD and 30ms rolling shutter that was measured by both Cinema5D and some guy on DVXuser. That also lines up with the 1080p rolling shutter and maximum frame rate measured in various places. The predicted speed in the closest binning level to 720p is also about 200fps based on that time per line, which is what Cinema5D saw on the pre-production NX500.
Continuous shooting at 15fps is also consistent with that readout speed.
Yes, I know a Samsung marketing guy said otherwise in an interview, but I'm not convinced he really knew what he was talking about. I think it is more likely that after a long corporate game of "telephone" the actual numbers got mistaken.
It's the word of one marketing manager in an interview vs the official product information published by Samsung Semiconductor and all the specifications and measurements taken of the camera that match that number.
The Nikon j5 is a good example of what it actually looks like when a fast sensor is limited by a slow processor. The sensor does over 5k at 60+fps, but the processor will only handle UHD at 15fps. However the rolling shutter is still excellent, since the first step of the image processing pipeline is to just dump the raw readout to RAM, which is more than fast enough. It can do continuous shooting at the full speed of the sensor since it doesn't use a mechanical shutter in that mode, and they didn't decide to limit it.
I see no reason for Samsung to go to all the effort to build a CMOS sensor capable of 10x the clock speed they run it at in their flagship product, then lie about the actual capabilities on the product page. Furthermore there is no CMOS circuit I have ever heard of that can be overclocked by 1000%, even under laboratory conditions (liquid nitrogen, etc), so I am somewhat skeptical that they ran the thing at 240fps in testing.
The live view is derived from the raw sensor data. The question is where the boundary between the ARM cores and the special purpose hardware is in the image processing pipeline. Magic Lantern RAW video works because they found that Canon's live view mode puts the raw sensor data somewhere the general-purpose processor can access it before de-bayering it and sending it to the screen or to HDMI as RGB video. Nikon does it the same way, as shown by the Nikonhacker developers. I don't know how Samsung does it, but it is quite likely to be like Canon and Nikon.

mmmmYeeeahhhh..........

They're missing our point. 

They want a smoother end-user experience and that pretty much ONLY means less stuttering due to any bandwidth issues. The solution is to kill the quality. That's ALWAYS BEEN the solution. YouTube has been doing it for years.

Now I WILL give them this: "Adaptive" is indeed better than simply defaulting to something really low like 320p. DUH....

Our point is simply this: Many of us PAID subscribers NEED folks to see our stuff is as high quality as is possible. ESPECIALLY if it is clients. And EVERYBODY understands a little stuttering. NOBODY goes: "Oh my gosh, the video just stuttered for a second or two, I guess that means it's no good and I'd better turn it off!" DUH...

And don't forget the BIG one that affects everyone in an even worse way - EMBEDDING.
In MANY embedded video situations (websites etc,.) the little "HD" icon where you select playback quality DOESN'T SHOW UP. 
What you gonna do NOW? DUH...

So, in summary - DUH.

They WILL respond to paid subscribers cancelling if they don't return to at least the OPTION of a selectable minimum quality playback.

BIG THANKS, BIG THANKS, to everyone who has sent an email to Vimeo about this. Especially Paid subscribers willing to cancel.
 

mmmmYeeeahhhh..........

They're missing our point. 

They want a smoother end-user experience and that pretty much ONLY means less stuttering due to any bandwidth issues. The solution is to kill the quality. That's ALWAYS BEEN the solution. YouTube has been doing it for years.

Now I WILL give them this: "Adaptive" is indeed better than simply defaulting to something really low like 320p. DUH....

Our point is simply this: Many of us PAID subscribers NEED folks to see our stuff is as high quality as is possible. ESPECIALLY if it is clients. And EVERYBODY understands a little stuttering. NOBODY goes: "Oh my gosh, the video just stuttered for a second or two, I guess that means it's no good and I'd better turn it off!" DUH...

And don't forget the BIG one that affects everyone in an even worse way - EMBEDDING.
In MANY embedded video situations (websites etc,.) the little "HD" icon where you select playback quality DOESN'T SHOW UP. 
What you gonna do NOW? DUH...

So, in summary - DUH.

They WILL respond to paid subscribers cancelling if they don't return to at least the OPTION of a selectable minimum quality playback.

BIG THANKS, BIG THANKS, to everyone who has sent an email to Vimeo about this. Especially Paid subscribers willing to cancel.
 

Well then your chosen route will also probably ensure that most of the movie industry goes bye-bye. Leaving us (and you) with little more than superhero sequels.

If that's all you want to see out there anymore - well then, by all means, have at it.

Thanks mate!
Here in the USA, under that section called "UPGRADE THIS VIDEO" - beneath it "Choose the HD format(s) for this video" is now greyed out and I cannot make any selection.
But here's the biggest problem, as I wrote originally:

"To be certain - ANYTIME I have watched any of YOUR Vimeo videos recently, my stream defaulted to their "Auto" setting EVEN THOUGH THE "HD" INDICATOR WAS STILL ON.
My system and connection plays 1080p perfectly smoothly all day long - and ALL of YOUR videos are displaying at a drastically reduced quality for me because of this "Auto" YouTube-style setting."

When I say "drastically" I mean LESS than 720p.

It won't "say" what it is because it just says "Auto" until I go in and change it to one of the other quality sizes.

Again - we PAY for the ability to control; that - YouTube already has that "default to 'Auto' thing"  and so for many of us Vimeo users it is the ONLY reason we PAY for Vimeo instead.

If viewers are going to randomly get DEGRADED playback streams ONLY UNLESS they take the extra step and go in to the playback settings and change that - then what the hell am I paying for - that's already YouTube.
But we know that MANY users won't do that EVERY SINGLE TIME. And we also know that that choice is very often not even available if the video has been embedded.
 

Thanks mate!
Here in the USA, under that section called "UPGRADE THIS VIDEO" - beneath it "Choose the HD format(s) for this video" is now greyed out and I cannot make any selection.
But here's the biggest problem, as I wrote originally:

"To be certain - ANYTIME I have watched any of YOUR Vimeo videos recently, my stream defaulted to their "Auto" setting EVEN THOUGH THE "HD" INDICATOR WAS STILL ON.
My system and connection plays 1080p perfectly smoothly all day long - and ALL of YOUR videos are displaying at a drastically reduced quality for me because of this "Auto" YouTube-style setting."

When I say "drastically" I mean LESS than 720p.

It won't "say" what it is because it just says "Auto" until I go in and change it to one of the other quality sizes.

Again - we PAY for the ability to control; that - YouTube already has that "default to 'Auto' thing"  and so for many of us Vimeo users it is the ONLY reason we PAY for Vimeo instead.

If viewers are going to randomly get DEGRADED playback streams ONLY UNLESS they take the extra step and go in to the playback settings and change that - then what the hell am I paying for - that's already YouTube.
But we know that MANY users won't do that EVERY SINGLE TIME. And we also know that that choice is very often not even available if the video has been embedded.
 

Thanks mate!
Here in the USA, under that section called "UPGRADE THIS VIDEO" - beneath it "Choose the HD format(s) for this video" is now greyed out and I cannot make any selection.
But here's the biggest problem, as I wrote originally:

"To be certain - ANYTIME I have watched any of YOUR Vimeo videos recently, my stream defaulted to their "Auto" setting EVEN THOUGH THE "HD" INDICATOR WAS STILL ON.
My system and connection plays 1080p perfectly smoothly all day long - and ALL of YOUR videos are displaying at a drastically reduced quality for me because of this "Auto" YouTube-style setting."

When I say "drastically" I mean LESS than 720p.

It won't "say" what it is because it just says "Auto" until I go in and change it to one of the other quality sizes.

Again - we PAY for the ability to control; that - YouTube already has that "default to 'Auto' thing"  and so for many of us Vimeo users it is the ONLY reason we PAY for Vimeo instead.

If viewers are going to randomly get DEGRADED playback streams ONLY UNLESS they take the extra step and go in to the playback settings and change that - then what the hell am I paying for - that's already YouTube.
But we know that MANY users won't do that EVERY SINGLE TIME. And we also know that that choice is very often not even available if the video has been embedded.
 

Ooh...dayum. 
You're good with the warrior words there Kaylee. Nicely done.

Hey araucaria,

You shredded me and my post, but I'm gonna do you a respect here.

First, drop the anger and smugness. I'm not "Telling you to"...I'm just asking you to. I'm asking....could ya?
Earlier on you made a good point that most people didn't focus on. Piracy in certain other countries. 
You mentioned Turkey, but I'd like to add China and India to that, because historically those two countries were hotbeds of huge amounts of movie piracy. 
At first, the worldwide movie selling industry didn't even attempt to get into those countries because the Governments really didn't let them. So the worldwide movie industry grew for decades without them. (Of course China and India have made their own great movie industry - but that's not what we're talking about here.)
There's a difference now - the difference is that all of the countries that DID support the worldwide movie industry are now DRASTICALLY increasing their participation in piracy and so they are reducing the industry's ability to earn it's money fairly.
I never said we "Have to give up our Privacy" but I did say "What society has or does accept as any sort of privacy on the Internet is going to have to change RADICALLY or we risk losing one of the most cherished aspects of our modern life - Movies." 

We don't really have all that much privacy online already anyway - and I only suggest that what we "accept" as privacy (cuz it ain't really much already) is going to have to change IF...IF...we want to keep our movie world going as great as it has been.

I have been a monetary supporter of the Electronic Frontier Foundation for 8-years now, so I am ABSOLUTELY on the side of Internet privacy and freedom.
So, I understand and respect your position of NOT wanting to relinquishing any more online privacy. No one is saying that's "wrong". Although maybe it seems that's what people are saying - it's really not. What we ARE SAYING - is that it is going to be one or the other. One or the other. We will NOT be able to keep both. That part is already obvious. Pick one, and understand that you will be saying goodbye to the other. 
If you ONLY like 'flag pole" (big budget) films like superhero movies, then you'll still be happy. But if you like the other varieties of movies too then maybe you won't be so happy when no one will make those anymore. YOU ARE FULLY ENTITLED to only like superhero movies if that's your thing. No judgement of you there.
You're on this forum, right? So I'm kinda guessing that you have an interest in all varieties of movie making. We all just want to see those movies continue to get made, and NONE of us has the answer yet of how that's going to happen.

 

Hey gang,

You may have noticed that VIMEO recently changed their public playback structure to be exactly like YouTube's - meaning it will now "Auto-Select" a playback quality for viewers. The tab where you could specify what playback quality got assigned has been removed. 

So far their P.R. people have been saying "Too bad, we're being competitive." but controlling the playback quality is pretty much the ONLY reason any of us use Vimeo over YouTube. It is ABSOLUTELY the ONLY reason I pay for their "Plus" or "Pro" service.

This little campaign here got started by Oron over on DVXUser and he has already had some email exchanges with them that he posted for all to see.
When he told them that controlling playback quality was his ONLY reason for buying their paid service, and that he would be terminating it if this control is not restored - well, they quickly stated changing their tune.

To be certain - ANYTIME I have watched any of YOUR Vimeo videos recently, my stream defaulted to their "Auto" setting EVEN THOUGH THE "HD" INDICATOR WAS STILL ON.
My system and connection plays 1080p perfectly smoothly all day long - and ALL of YOUR videos are displaying at a drastically reduced quality for me because of this "Auto" YouTube-style setting.


Here is some of the email exchange Oron posted:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

This is part of an emails they sent me from customer support: 
part of email 1: "Unfortunately, adaptive streaming is the future of Vimeo’s streaming capabilities and we completely understand your hesitation if you content is not displaying as you’d like it to."

Part of email 2 (after I replied I don't like this idea): "I’m sorry to hear that my rely has disappointed you. We strongly encourage you being able to find and use a video hosting platform that is best for your needs and we’re sorry to hear that we cannot be that for you at this time."

After I decided to stop my Vimeo plus membership that will end next month, they send me this email: 
"I want to be clear that I do understand your concerns about HD video, and having control over what qualities your viewer sees. Our product team is evaluating this kind of feedback, and I will certainly pass yours along for consideration."

So, again, if more people will say something it will change, I'm sure people that have Vimeo Plus or Pro don't want other people to view their videos on 720p or 360p just because vimeo thinks they don't have the bandwidth, I want to decide those things, that's the all point of vimeo.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

PLEASE join in and send VIMEO's customer service an email if you are a paying customer of their "Plus" and "Pro" subscriptions.

Thanks all !

Hey gang,

You may have noticed that VIMEO recently changed their public playback structure to be exactly like YouTube's - meaning it will now "Auto-Select" a playback quality for viewers. The tab where you could specify what playback quality got assigned has been removed. 

So far their P.R. people have been saying "Too bad, we're being competitive." but controlling the playback quality is pretty much the ONLY reason any of us use Vimeo over YouTube. It is ABSOLUTELY the ONLY reason I pay for their "Plus" or "Pro" service.

This little campaign here got started by Oron over on DVXUser and he has already had some email exchanges with them that he posted for all to see.
When he told them that controlling playback quality was his ONLY reason for buying their paid service, and that he would be terminating it if this control is not restored - well, they quickly stated changing their tune.

To be certain - ANYTIME I have watched any of YOUR Vimeo videos recently, my stream defaulted to their "Auto" setting EVEN THOUGH THE "HD" INDICATOR WAS STILL ON.
My system and connection plays 1080p perfectly smoothly all day long - and ALL of YOUR videos are displaying at a drastically reduced quality for me because of this "Auto" YouTube-style setting.


Here is some of the email exchange Oron posted:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

This is part of an emails they sent me from customer support: 
part of email 1: "Unfortunately, adaptive streaming is the future of Vimeo’s streaming capabilities and we completely understand your hesitation if you content is not displaying as you’d like it to."

Part of email 2 (after I replied I don't like this idea): "I’m sorry to hear that my rely has disappointed you. We strongly encourage you being able to find and use a video hosting platform that is best for your needs and we’re sorry to hear that we cannot be that for you at this time."

After I decided to stop my Vimeo plus membership that will end next month, they send me this email: 
"I want to be clear that I do understand your concerns about HD video, and having control over what qualities your viewer sees. Our product team is evaluating this kind of feedback, and I will certainly pass yours along for consideration."

So, again, if more people will say something it will change, I'm sure people that have Vimeo Plus or Pro don't want other people to view their videos on 720p or 360p just because vimeo thinks they don't have the bandwidth, I want to decide those things, that's the all point of vimeo.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

PLEASE join in and send VIMEO's customer service an email if you are a paying customer of their "Plus" and "Pro" subscriptions.

Thanks all !

done. and i didn't even swear.

That's some fine lookin' stuff right there.

I looked at a bunch of your other stuff too. I think this Lens-Lut combo is a real high-point.
The stuff with the Samsung lenses is unbelievably sharp and clear, but at times almost feels too sharp...know what I mean?
Those AI-s lenses are still sharp, but I don't see the almost distractingly sharp edges to things.

Kowabunga!

Hey araucaria,

You shredded me and my post, but I'm gonna do you a respect here.

First, drop the anger and smugness. I'm not "Telling you to"...I'm just asking you to. I'm asking....could ya?
Earlier on you made a good point that most people didn't focus on. Piracy in certain other countries. 
You mentioned Turkey, but I'd like to add China and India to that, because historically those two countries were hotbeds of huge amounts of movie piracy. 
At first, the worldwide movie selling industry didn't even attempt to get into those countries because the Governments really didn't let them. So the worldwide movie industry grew for decades without them. (Of course China and India have made their own great movie industry - but that's not what we're talking about here.)
There's a difference now - the difference is that all of the countries that DID support the worldwide movie industry are now DRASTICALLY increasing their participation in piracy and so they are reducing the industry's ability to earn it's money fairly.
I never said we "Have to give up our Privacy" but I did say "What society has or does accept as any sort of privacy on the Internet is going to have to change RADICALLY or we risk losing one of the most cherished aspects of our modern life - Movies." 

We don't really have all that much privacy online already anyway - and I only suggest that what we "accept" as privacy (cuz it ain't really much already) is going to have to change IF...IF...we want to keep our movie world going as great as it has been.

I have been a monetary supporter of the Electronic Frontier Foundation for 8-years now, so I am ABSOLUTELY on the side of Internet privacy and freedom.
So, I understand and respect your position of NOT wanting to relinquishing any more online privacy. No one is saying that's "wrong". Although maybe it seems that's what people are saying - it's really not. What we ARE SAYING - is that it is going to be one or the other. One or the other. We will NOT be able to keep both. That part is already obvious. Pick one, and understand that you will be saying goodbye to the other. 
If you ONLY like 'flag pole" (big budget) films like superhero movies, then you'll still be happy. But if you like the other varieties of movies too then maybe you won't be so happy when no one will make those anymore. YOU ARE FULLY ENTITLED to only like superhero movies if that's your thing. No judgement of you there.
You're on this forum, right? So I'm kinda guessing that you have an interest in all varieties of movie making. We all just want to see those movies continue to get made, and NONE of us has the answer yet of how that's going to happen.

 

Hey gang,

You may have noticed that VIMEO recently changed their public playback structure to be exactly like YouTube's - meaning it will now "Auto-Select" a playback quality for viewers. The tab where you could specify what playback quality got assigned has been removed. 

So far their P.R. people have been saying "Too bad, we're being competitive." but controlling the playback quality is pretty much the ONLY reason any of us use Vimeo over YouTube. It is ABSOLUTELY the ONLY reason I pay for their "Plus" or "Pro" service.

This little campaign here got started by Oron over on DVXUser and he has already had some email exchanges with them that he posted for all to see.
When he told them that controlling playback quality was his ONLY reason for buying their paid service, and that he would be terminating it if this control is not restored - well, they quickly stated changing their tune.

To be certain - ANYTIME I have watched any of YOUR Vimeo videos recently, my stream defaulted to their "Auto" setting EVEN THOUGH THE "HD" INDICATOR WAS STILL ON.
My system and connection plays 1080p perfectly smoothly all day long - and ALL of YOUR videos are displaying at a drastically reduced quality for me because of this "Auto" YouTube-style setting.


Here is some of the email exchange Oron posted:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

This is part of an emails they sent me from customer support: 
part of email 1: "Unfortunately, adaptive streaming is the future of Vimeo’s streaming capabilities and we completely understand your hesitation if you content is not displaying as you’d like it to."

Part of email 2 (after I replied I don't like this idea): "I’m sorry to hear that my rely has disappointed you. We strongly encourage you being able to find and use a video hosting platform that is best for your needs and we’re sorry to hear that we cannot be that for you at this time."

After I decided to stop my Vimeo plus membership that will end next month, they send me this email: 
"I want to be clear that I do understand your concerns about HD video, and having control over what qualities your viewer sees. Our product team is evaluating this kind of feedback, and I will certainly pass yours along for consideration."

So, again, if more people will say something it will change, I'm sure people that have Vimeo Plus or Pro don't want other people to view their videos on 720p or 360p just because vimeo thinks they don't have the bandwidth, I want to decide those things, that's the all point of vimeo.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

PLEASE join in and send VIMEO's customer service an email if you are a paying customer of their "Plus" and "Pro" subscriptions.

Thanks all !

Hey gang,

You may have noticed that VIMEO recently changed their public playback structure to be exactly like YouTube's - meaning it will now "Auto-Select" a playback quality for viewers. The tab where you could specify what playback quality got assigned has been removed. 

So far their P.R. people have been saying "Too bad, we're being competitive." but controlling the playback quality is pretty much the ONLY reason any of us use Vimeo over YouTube. It is ABSOLUTELY the ONLY reason I pay for their "Plus" or "Pro" service.

This little campaign here got started by Oron over on DVXUser and he has already had some email exchanges with them that he posted for all to see.
When he told them that controlling playback quality was his ONLY reason for buying their paid service, and that he would be terminating it if this control is not restored - well, they quickly stated changing their tune.

To be certain - ANYTIME I have watched any of YOUR Vimeo videos recently, my stream defaulted to their "Auto" setting EVEN THOUGH THE "HD" INDICATOR WAS STILL ON.
My system and connection plays 1080p perfectly smoothly all day long - and ALL of YOUR videos are displaying at a drastically reduced quality for me because of this "Auto" YouTube-style setting.


Here is some of the email exchange Oron posted:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

This is part of an emails they sent me from customer support: 
part of email 1: "Unfortunately, adaptive streaming is the future of Vimeo’s streaming capabilities and we completely understand your hesitation if you content is not displaying as you’d like it to."

Part of email 2 (after I replied I don't like this idea): "I’m sorry to hear that my rely has disappointed you. We strongly encourage you being able to find and use a video hosting platform that is best for your needs and we’re sorry to hear that we cannot be that for you at this time."

After I decided to stop my Vimeo plus membership that will end next month, they send me this email: 
"I want to be clear that I do understand your concerns about HD video, and having control over what qualities your viewer sees. Our product team is evaluating this kind of feedback, and I will certainly pass yours along for consideration."

So, again, if more people will say something it will change, I'm sure people that have Vimeo Plus or Pro don't want other people to view their videos on 720p or 360p just because vimeo thinks they don't have the bandwidth, I want to decide those things, that's the all point of vimeo.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

PLEASE join in and send VIMEO's customer service an email if you are a paying customer of their "Plus" and "Pro" subscriptions.

Thanks all !

Hey gang,

You may have noticed that VIMEO recently changed their public playback structure to be exactly like YouTube's - meaning it will now "Auto-Select" a playback quality for viewers. The tab where you could specify what playback quality got assigned has been removed. 

So far their P.R. people have been saying "Too bad, we're being competitive." but controlling the playback quality is pretty much the ONLY reason any of us use Vimeo over YouTube. It is ABSOLUTELY the ONLY reason I pay for their "Plus" or "Pro" service.

This little campaign here got started by Oron over on DVXUser and he has already had some email exchanges with them that he posted for all to see.
When he told them that controlling playback quality was his ONLY reason for buying their paid service, and that he would be terminating it if this control is not restored - well, they quickly stated changing their tune.

To be certain - ANYTIME I have watched any of YOUR Vimeo videos recently, my stream defaulted to their "Auto" setting EVEN THOUGH THE "HD" INDICATOR WAS STILL ON.
My system and connection plays 1080p perfectly smoothly all day long - and ALL of YOUR videos are displaying at a drastically reduced quality for me because of this "Auto" YouTube-style setting.


Here is some of the email exchange Oron posted:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

This is part of an emails they sent me from customer support: 
part of email 1: "Unfortunately, adaptive streaming is the future of Vimeo’s streaming capabilities and we completely understand your hesitation if you content is not displaying as you’d like it to."

Part of email 2 (after I replied I don't like this idea): "I’m sorry to hear that my rely has disappointed you. We strongly encourage you being able to find and use a video hosting platform that is best for your needs and we’re sorry to hear that we cannot be that for you at this time."

After I decided to stop my Vimeo plus membership that will end next month, they send me this email: 
"I want to be clear that I do understand your concerns about HD video, and having control over what qualities your viewer sees. Our product team is evaluating this kind of feedback, and I will certainly pass yours along for consideration."

So, again, if more people will say something it will change, I'm sure people that have Vimeo Plus or Pro don't want other people to view their videos on 720p or 360p just because vimeo thinks they don't have the bandwidth, I want to decide those things, that's the all point of vimeo.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

PLEASE join in and send VIMEO's customer service an email if you are a paying customer of their "Plus" and "Pro" subscriptions.

Thanks all !

This is pretty much exactly how it worked with the GH2 hacks.

Vitaliy got a hold of the firmware obviously when they released the first update. Then he created a GUI called "PTool" that loads in the firmware and has windows for you to enter in new values for just the relevant fields. 
Then the "PTool" GUI saves your changes in a file identical to the actual Panasonic firmware which then gets loaded into the camera in exactly the same way one would normally update the firmware.

You never "see" your new values displayed anywhere on the GH2. You just see the results and you can see the bit-rates associated with your new footage.

So this is considerably different from how Magic Lantern works, but everything we've learned so far points to the NX1 firmware functioning at least somewhat similarly to the Panasonic. 

So that's encouraging.

The easiest things to change will be the bit-rates (they've already provided for several ranges so we know it will work) and the removal of the 29-minute limit ... which is probably nothing more than a flag which can simply be removed like it was on the GH2.

Well then your chosen route will also probably ensure that most of the movie industry goes bye-bye. Leaving us (and you) with little more than superhero sequels.

If that's all you want to see out there anymore - well then, by all means, have at it.

This is pretty much exactly how it worked with the GH2 hacks.

Vitaliy got a hold of the firmware obviously when they released the first update. Then he created a GUI called "PTool" that loads in the firmware and has windows for you to enter in new values for just the relevant fields. 
Then the "PTool" GUI saves your changes in a file identical to the actual Panasonic firmware which then gets loaded into the camera in exactly the same way one would normally update the firmware.

You never "see" your new values displayed anywhere on the GH2. You just see the results and you can see the bit-rates associated with your new footage.

So this is considerably different from how Magic Lantern works, but everything we've learned so far points to the NX1 firmware functioning at least somewhat similarly to the Panasonic. 

So that's encouraging.

The easiest things to change will be the bit-rates (they've already provided for several ranges so we know it will work) and the removal of the 29-minute limit ... which is probably nothing more than a flag which can simply be removed like it was on the GH2.

That's logic!

Yup. That's exactly the kinds of things to do. Look for some small yet specific differences that are easy to pin down the function of.

This is pretty much exactly how it worked with the GH2 hacks.

Vitaliy got a hold of the firmware obviously when they released the first update. Then he created a GUI called "PTool" that loads in the firmware and has windows for you to enter in new values for just the relevant fields. 
Then the "PTool" GUI saves your changes in a file identical to the actual Panasonic firmware which then gets loaded into the camera in exactly the same way one would normally update the firmware.

You never "see" your new values displayed anywhere on the GH2. You just see the results and you can see the bit-rates associated with your new footage.

So this is considerably different from how Magic Lantern works, but everything we've learned so far points to the NX1 firmware functioning at least somewhat similarly to the Panasonic. 

So that's encouraging.

The easiest things to change will be the bit-rates (they've already provided for several ranges so we know it will work) and the removal of the 29-minute limit ... which is probably nothing more than a flag which can simply be removed like it was on the GH2.

YES.
Piracy or illegal downloading or file sharing WILL hurt - already IS hurting the film industry.

With the amount of lost revenue that we are already clearly seeing - Money losing films will now be total busts, Break-Even films will now be money losers, Mildly Profitable films will also become money losers, and the FEW films that are seriously profitable and generally make up the earnings gap in the industry for ALL THE CREW INVOLVED will now either have much of those earnings taken away, or will move all the way into NO-PROFIT territory.

Ask yourself this very simple question:
Of ALL the many types of talented tradesmen, and workers on a film crew- from the electricians to the companies who's entire business is craft services (food), to the riggers and carpenters, to the costume designers and tailors, all the way through to the actors, directors, producers and even the office staff of the film companies (even little small ones)...
HOW MANY of those people do you think will choose to, or could even AFFORD to stay in the business if the profits are cut this severely?
Hmm?
Think on that for a few minutes.
How many of you would choose to, or could afford to work a full-time job that MAYBE paid you 15 or 20 thousand dollars A YEAR?
You gonna get a mortgage for your family house with that? (No) You gonna raise and feed and clothe kids with that? (No) Get them through college with that?
That's the new reality for the majority of all those different kinds of people who's work makes up the film business.
They already ARE leaving the business for exactly these reasons.
What do you think the business will be like when even more of them leave?

What society has or does accept as any sort of privacy on the Internet is going to have to change RADICALLY or we risk losing one of the most cherished aspects of our modern life - Movies.

It's a new world out there - with new problems of types that have never been seen before. We are going to have to be prepared to change if we don't want to lose the COMPLEX things that we love...like movies.