John Matthews

Concerning colors and the GX80, I'm impressed the most with the reds- they seem to really pop- deeply saturated, yet not overblown. For me, the blue channel is its weak point. Overall, I appreciate the Standard profile the most, but the Natural profile seems to be the most gradable, especially concerning those blues.

Haha, John, this is cool. Steve Huff, one of the first ambassadors of m43. Used to stop by his blog every day. Great guy! Also really dig his posts from the beginning of his place, beautifully written pieces!
 
Oh, shoot, seems like Steve has changed his site to smartphone ratio. Now it´s embedded within two columns, making it narrower to read.

Another review. This one by Steve Huff... I like his not-so-scientific views on cameras and handling.
He also did a write-up:
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2016/06/24/shooting-with-the-panasonic-gx85-small-with-a-huge-punch/

Thanks John! Yes, Adding noise was a totally aesthetic choice, I wanted a little rough look for this video. I also own a GH4 and I pleased to say that Panasonic has improve the color a lot in the GX80, the yellowness of the GH4 natural profile has gone. In my opinion the GX80 has a more pleasant and organic tone. I also notice a huge improvement in terms of noise in dark areas and in underexposed images, I believe that It was the weakest point in GH4. Until now, I am very happy with this little monster, I would like to keep on making more test and comparisons between GX80 and GH4.

Another review. This one by Steve Huff... I like his not-so-scientific views on cameras and handling.
He also did a write-up:
http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2016/06/24/shooting-with-the-panasonic-gx85-small-with-a-huge-punch/

Welcome, @Javier López, to posting on EOSHD! It would seem you chose Filmconvert settings similar to mine and @jase. However, we preferred without noise added. My logic is this: why add noise when this sensor does a pretty good job unless it's for a desired look or feel? Strictly personal taste... Great video nonetheless! Also, your English is fine (I'm an English teacher).  

Hi, I´m Javier and I´m the autor of this video, sorry my English is so bad!!. I am very grateful for the nice comments. I love this forum, I have learnt a lot about filmmaking for years as a follower of EOSHD. Talking about the video, in camera setting was Natural Profile all parameters -3 noises reduction -2, i-dynamic and i-resolution OFF. A few shots in 4k and the rest of them 1080 50p for slow motion. Everything was shot hand-held. It was edited in Final Cut Pro X, I applied post-stabilization in a couple of shots, I don't remember which of them. The primary color correction of each shot was made in this program too with color correction tool and finally I applied film convert plugin in a adjustment layer to all the video.
Greetings to all you, and thanks again, nice to be here!

my GX80 arrived an hour ago - looking forward to giving it a whirl
GX80 + 12-32 but will probably ditch the 12-32 as have a 14-140 II
had one of UK stores match the £499 price for kit package so pretty happy - as after cashback means £450 - which including the 12-32 seemed good value to me

ANDREW REID
 
Your GX85 Review is overdue. Impatience is afflicting my mind. Cannot wait much longer. ;-)
 

Honestly. That's probably the nicest footage I have seen from the camera.

Thanks one and all for your feedback, I will follow up on some of your tips. I think I resigned myself in the first ten minutes that I would never see all the gear again. To answer one question, yes I think there are highly organised gangs in France that know how to target people. I may have even been followed as a lone driver when driving my motorhome from Italy to Portugal through southern France. I stopped for the night at a truck stop and was robbed while I was fast asleep in the middle of the night. I kid you not, they broke into the camper through the passenger door by forcing the lock and must have had a torch. I am usually a fairly light sleeper, I did not hear a thing probably because I was exhausted from driving the day before. They got credit cards, passport and cash as well. One would not think to take precautions when "safely" locked in the van but people are becoming more devious and desperate these days, so all travelers have to be prepared "as if". I usually hide my camera bag under a storage seat but left it in my wardrobe that night. I left my wallet and passport in my shorts on the seat, they should have been taken out and hidden away. Even experienced travelers like myself for the past 20 years can get caught out by letting your guard down for a moment. Now I strap up my front doors with rubber straps, so even if they forced the locks, it would be impossible to open the doors. If I had woken up and disturbed them, who knows what might have happened if they were armed so I figure I got off lightly.

That really sucks and it must feel awful! ...I will say this after having lived in France for some time. If I were you, I'd check leboncoin.fr. It's the go-to site in France for buying and selling stuff. I'm sure there's all kinds of stolen stuff on it. You might find your gear and be able to alert the authorities. The other option is to just chalk this one up as "lost forever" ... and this will be an opportunity to get some new gear!

I researched this some time ago. For Youtube (don't know about other services), the max allowed bitrate for 4k 24-30p is 35-45Mbps. Youtube, in turn, will downscale when they "process" your video. Numerous youtubers have noted that when you upload 4k and let youtube downscale, the results are better than when you upload 1080p 8Mbps. I concur on these results. In short, you want to upload to the absolute maximum that the service provides as those are the limitations of the service.
For Facebook, maybe try here:
http://www.macxdvd.com/mac-dvd-video-converter-how-to/best-video-format-for-facebook.htm
Also remember that Facebook declares ownership of anything you upload to its services... not nice.
Looks good, but unfortunately I refuse to use Microsoft Windows. Bummer... really want ffmpeg command...

Yes, I've been doing the same with FCPX. However, my computer (integrated graphics) has a hard time with 4k with any sort modification to the original file. For now, I'm just testing as to what I can do with a downscaled image. I, too, am trying to improve workflow to make my cuts go a little quicker in FCPX, especially when 4k is not needed (rarely is).
When uploading to Youtube, you want 4k, even if it was originally 1080p- you only need to add a little grain and youtube will see "4k" detail. The results are pretty good from tests I've seen.

Yes. No problem. Put it in "M" mode and save it as a custom mode. You can adjust your aperture and shutter independently. I wasn't aware of the GX8 limitation...

I will say Panasonic does do some magic here. I've had cameras that produce a very digital line around anything blown out. Panasonic seems to render with a little more gradient (and grace) so that it's not as noticeable. The goal was to do "run & gun," not think too much about the shot. To bring her face out more, I would have installed a reflector had I thought a little more. But even then, it's all a matter of preference I think. Some people really like a darker image than others.

The GX80 is meeting my expectations for run & gun. I think this shoot exemplifies expectations one can have of this camera for your quick, set-it-up and shoot style videos… family, street, etc.
Here’s my setup:

GX80 Panasonic 25mm F1.7 Zoom H1 Sony ECMCS3 Clip style Omnidirectional Stereo Microphone Settings:
GX80: Natural profile (Contrast = -5, Sharpness  = -5, Noise Reduction = -5, Saturation = -5), White balance (Sunny, A3, G3), ISO (200), Sutter Speed (1/50), Aperture (F2.8), IBIS (on, but no electronic IS) Zoom: WAV (24-bit, 96K Hz sampling), Level (70) Description of shoot:
This took me about 5 minutes to shoot. I saw an interesting opportunity, went to get the GX80 and Zoom H1 from my office. For the settings above, I only need to put the camera in “C” mode to start. The Zoom is always put back with the level at 70, I only need to place it near the subject and start recording.
Post Processing:
Imported sound from Zoom H1 (just connect, don’t take out card) - 30 seconds Imported video ~3 minute video file - about 3 minutes Synced files - 10 seconds Threw it on a 4k timeline - 1 second Expanded audio - 1 second Select camera audio and push “v” key - 1 second Added 1db to Zoom H1 audio - 1 second Collapsed audio - 1 second Make cuts - 10 minutes Color corrected (highlights = + 15%, midtones = +7%, shadows = +1%, Global color 110° = -3%) - 2 minutes Added FilmConvertPro2 effect (KD P400 Ptra, Grain = 0) - 10 seconds Added a simple title - 10  seconds Rendered video - ~20 minutes Total Post Processing time = ~40 minutes (with rendering)
Re-rendered video at constant bitrate of 35000 kbps in 4k with Handbrake, resulting file 690 MB- ~10 minutes
Uploaded to Youtube - 90 minutes
Youtube processing - 10 minutes
 
Final Product:
Picture Quality:
Hindsight is always 20/20. I think the scene was a little dark as her face falls into shadow from time to time. I probably could have bumped up exposure and just avoided the window blown out in the background, but it gives you an idea of the limitations in terms of dynamic range. For me, the colors are quite nice and pleasing after applying Filmconvert… before that, not so much as white balance was off due to keeping blue channel from going too low- I guess many cameras need to be tweaked.
Notes:
This is a video of my daughter trying to set-up a Canon Powershot A410 that I gave her. She practices from time to time and enjoys shooting. Capturing moments like this is one of the main reasons I bought the GX80 for family. Please excuse her coughing as she’s getting over the flu. Also, note that she’s constantly switching from English to French. Good luck trying to understand, but you still have an idea of the audio quality.
Of the video I cut out was a portion that was probably unusable as I wasn’t holding the camera steady enough as I moved to another position. Yes, it’s prone to jitters if the IBIS goes past its limitations, but I could easily have avoided this hadn’t it been to user error (movements were simply too fast).
Feel free to make comments on any of the above as I’m trying to improve everything! By the way, here’s a photo she took of me looking serious during this shoot. 

use this
http://hdcinematics.com/Convert-V3.html

Can you explain where I can learn more about this?  Any tips about direct Facebook uploading as it generally looks the most horrible?

The cool thing is that the custom setting remembers everything, like white balance and shutter speed settings.
I had my first paid video job this weekend, to record a local Carnival parade.  I was all set to go with my GX80s and I was using C1 for 4k/25fps and C2 for 1080p/50fps and set both with similar settings except for shutter speed.  It was really easy to reset everything back to baseline.  I could easily have set up C3 for time-lapse as well, but I was using my LX100 for that.
I was using the two GX80 with the 12-35 and 35-100 zoom lenses plus LX100.  A Shure VP83F for general audio and Sony SX1000 hand recorder for recording a couple of specific performances.  The audio wasn't going to be critical due to the rain/wind and the client was expecting a montage over samba music anyway (no interviews).  I'm hoping that the Instamic ships some day as a small, high quality mic like that would be helpful to plant on people/things when shooting spontaneously.  
Everything was packed into a 13" messenger bag as well as a Mefoto tripod and a couple small clamp/gorilla pod support, extra batteries, cards and rain protection gear as the outlook wasn't good.  I was prepped to be on my feet and mobile for about 5 hours documenting the parade setup its progression through the town.
Just as things started happening the skies unleashed torrential rains and due to the lightning (and large costumes being erected in an open field) they cancelled the event.  I only got some shots during the early preparations and performers packing up between large cloudbursts.  I did like the quality of the limited stuff that I got, however was very disappointed as it would have been a very fun event to video.  Very unfortunate...
The most useful thing that I had with me that day was a head-mounted umbrella that kept my hands free and my cameras dry.

I just drop my Panasonic 4k file into a 1080p timeline in FCPX and either work with local proxies (if I'm mobile) or the referenced original 4k files.  I have had good results with digital cropping, and colour manipulation like that and then just exporting to 1080p Prores.  The picture looks great locally before uploading the massive file for Youtube/Vimeo to do their magic/wreck the image.
There are might be better ways of working, so I'd be happy to learn.

The GX80 is meeting my expectations for run & gun. I think this shoot exemplifies expectations one can have of this camera for your quick, set-it-up and shoot style videos… family, street, etc.
Here’s my setup:

GX80 Panasonic 25mm F1.7 Zoom H1 Sony ECMCS3 Clip style Omnidirectional Stereo Microphone Settings:
GX80: Natural profile (Contrast = -5, Sharpness  = -5, Noise Reduction = -5, Saturation = -5), White balance (Sunny, A3, G3), ISO (200), Sutter Speed (1/50), Aperture (F2.8), IBIS (on, but no electronic IS) Zoom: WAV (24-bit, 96K Hz sampling), Level (70) Description of shoot:
This took me about 5 minutes to shoot. I saw an interesting opportunity, went to get the GX80 and Zoom H1 from my office. For the settings above, I only need to put the camera in “C” mode to start. The Zoom is always put back with the level at 70, I only need to place it near the subject and start recording.
Post Processing:
Imported sound from Zoom H1 (just connect, don’t take out card) - 30 seconds Imported video ~3 minute video file - about 3 minutes Synced files - 10 seconds Threw it on a 4k timeline - 1 second Expanded audio - 1 second Select camera audio and push “v” key - 1 second Added 1db to Zoom H1 audio - 1 second Collapsed audio - 1 second Make cuts - 10 minutes Color corrected (highlights = + 15%, midtones = +7%, shadows = +1%, Global color 110° = -3%) - 2 minutes Added FilmConvertPro2 effect (KD P400 Ptra, Grain = 0) - 10 seconds Added a simple title - 10  seconds Rendered video - ~20 minutes Total Post Processing time = ~40 minutes (with rendering)
Re-rendered video at constant bitrate of 35000 kbps in 4k with Handbrake, resulting file 690 MB- ~10 minutes
Uploaded to Youtube - 90 minutes
Youtube processing - 10 minutes
 
Final Product:
Picture Quality:
Hindsight is always 20/20. I think the scene was a little dark as her face falls into shadow from time to time. I probably could have bumped up exposure and just avoided the window blown out in the background, but it gives you an idea of the limitations in terms of dynamic range. For me, the colors are quite nice and pleasing after applying Filmconvert… before that, not so much as white balance was off due to keeping blue channel from going too low- I guess many cameras need to be tweaked.
Notes:
This is a video of my daughter trying to set-up a Canon Powershot A410 that I gave her. She practices from time to time and enjoys shooting. Capturing moments like this is one of the main reasons I bought the GX80 for family. Please excuse her coughing as she’s getting over the flu. Also, note that she’s constantly switching from English to French. Good luck trying to understand, but you still have an idea of the audio quality.
Of the video I cut out was a portion that was probably unusable as I wasn’t holding the camera steady enough as I moved to another position. Yes, it’s prone to jitters if the IBIS goes past its limitations, but I could easily have avoided this hadn’t it been to user error (movements were simply too fast).
Feel free to make comments on any of the above as I’m trying to improve everything! By the way, here’s a photo she took of me looking serious during this shoot. 

I will say Panasonic does do some magic here. I've had cameras that produce a very digital line around anything blown out. Panasonic seems to render with a little more gradient (and grace) so that it's not as noticeable. The goal was to do "run & gun," not think too much about the shot. To bring her face out more, I would have installed a reflector had I thought a little more. But even then, it's all a matter of preference I think. Some people really like a darker image than others.

The GX80 is meeting my expectations for run & gun. I think this shoot exemplifies expectations one can have of this camera for your quick, set-it-up and shoot style videos… family, street, etc.
Here’s my setup:

GX80 Panasonic 25mm F1.7 Zoom H1 Sony ECMCS3 Clip style Omnidirectional Stereo Microphone Settings:
GX80: Natural profile (Contrast = -5, Sharpness  = -5, Noise Reduction = -5, Saturation = -5), White balance (Sunny, A3, G3), ISO (200), Sutter Speed (1/50), Aperture (F2.8), IBIS (on, but no electronic IS) Zoom: WAV (24-bit, 96K Hz sampling), Level (70) Description of shoot:
This took me about 5 minutes to shoot. I saw an interesting opportunity, went to get the GX80 and Zoom H1 from my office. For the settings above, I only need to put the camera in “C” mode to start. The Zoom is always put back with the level at 70, I only need to place it near the subject and start recording.
Post Processing:
Imported sound from Zoom H1 (just connect, don’t take out card) - 30 seconds Imported video ~3 minute video file - about 3 minutes Synced files - 10 seconds Threw it on a 4k timeline - 1 second Expanded audio - 1 second Select camera audio and push “v” key - 1 second Added 1db to Zoom H1 audio - 1 second Collapsed audio - 1 second Make cuts - 10 minutes Color corrected (highlights = + 15%, midtones = +7%, shadows = +1%, Global color 110° = -3%) - 2 minutes Added FilmConvertPro2 effect (KD P400 Ptra, Grain = 0) - 10 seconds Added a simple title - 10  seconds Rendered video - ~20 minutes Total Post Processing time = ~40 minutes (with rendering)
Re-rendered video at constant bitrate of 35000 kbps in 4k with Handbrake, resulting file 690 MB- ~10 minutes
Uploaded to Youtube - 90 minutes
Youtube processing - 10 minutes
 
Final Product:
Picture Quality:
Hindsight is always 20/20. I think the scene was a little dark as her face falls into shadow from time to time. I probably could have bumped up exposure and just avoided the window blown out in the background, but it gives you an idea of the limitations in terms of dynamic range. For me, the colors are quite nice and pleasing after applying Filmconvert… before that, not so much as white balance was off due to keeping blue channel from going too low- I guess many cameras need to be tweaked.
Notes:
This is a video of my daughter trying to set-up a Canon Powershot A410 that I gave her. She practices from time to time and enjoys shooting. Capturing moments like this is one of the main reasons I bought the GX80 for family. Please excuse her coughing as she’s getting over the flu. Also, note that she’s constantly switching from English to French. Good luck trying to understand, but you still have an idea of the audio quality.
Of the video I cut out was a portion that was probably unusable as I wasn’t holding the camera steady enough as I moved to another position. Yes, it’s prone to jitters if the IBIS goes past its limitations, but I could easily have avoided this hadn’t it been to user error (movements were simply too fast).
Feel free to make comments on any of the above as I’m trying to improve everything! By the way, here’s a photo she took of me looking serious during this shoot.