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That´s right. It´s going to be shot at the end of August. It´s gonna be a fun experience. This time with usable dialogue sound, though not in English:) My bet for your camera would be: A6000 or G85 or EM10 II. Oly EM10 II has the 72mbps ALL Intra, has 3 axis IBIS, does not have Flat profile. For the Oly 5 n 10 II, do they have mic input? All in all the Olys seem pricey, but your choice by heart. So, maybe Oly E M10 II could be it, if audio and battery solution is nice. EDIT: Hoppla, thought you meant my lil project, conceided me. But of course, hopin too that Mattias gets to shoot his film. Sorry about the mistake at the beginning of my post.

Hey Glenn, thank you for posting that link! That´s a lens I´ve been thinking about for quiete a while now. I just purchased a SLR Magic 12mm so I should be happy. But still wanna try this lens out some day. About the Tevidon 16mm check this out, cropping into m43 and still creeping into UHD a little bit at F1.8, perfect for BMPCC though: http://lenscraze.blogspot.de/2015/05/tevidon-16-1-8.html I have the Tevidon 16 but need to purchase an adapter for it some time, actually two adapters, one from tevidon to cmount plus a cmount adapter.

Hallo Jase, I would go for the 4K. It crops a little bit off of that fishey effect too:) The downscaled 4K is a much better image than the internal 1080p, which is not close to the very nice HD quality in the GHs, G6 and G7 cameras. So overall image should be better. Why don´t you do a quick test in the basement? Shouldnt take more than 15mins. I don´t mean to be a smartass, but that would give you 1st hand info, as lowlight with a 3.5 lens might deserve a special test due to the various variables it accounts to.

with clean 4K 60p the GH5 should be able to give us pixel perfect 120fps in HD. Unfortunately it doesn´t. Perfect HD up to 60p, still nice up to 75fps HFR mode, from there on it´s not getting better: https://www.slashcam.de/artikel/Test/Panasonic-GH5-Sensor-Verhalten---Aufloesung--Slowmo--Rolling-Shutter---Slow-Motion.html#Slow_

Andy Lee has been too busy unfortunately to share some of his great findings about lenses lately. Would be awesome, if Rich could chime in on this topic and the case of maintaining and servicing Lomo Cine optics. So, @richg101, @andy lee, calling you a second time in this thread. By the way, Andy, any teaser footage of your film "Pandora"?

That legendary "mercers 12.5mm Fujinon"! No need for me to hunt for it anymore, since I bought the SLRMagic 12mm. Or am I at the beginning of a 12mm GAS now?:) I found different lenses of a Fujinon 12.5mm lens on ebay, some made in China, some in Bangladesh, looking pretty different from one another. Could you post a link to the right version? I remember you wrote that optical quality is very good. Do you still have it? If so, I would definately support your choice of a MFT camera as your second cam. This video gives a good idea regarding Tevidon lenses and their coverage of m43 image circle. The 25mm looking pretty good, the 16mm not fully covering:

I second that completely!

Awesome look! Keep us posted about the video!

Hey @kidzrevil and you other kids!:) I know we are all grownups, so no offense, but when it comes to lenses we are all kids:) The 10mm Tevidon does not cover full m43 image circle. It covers s16 when cropped from top and down to 1:2.35 ration. The 25mm covers even full m43 sensor though with only the slightest darkening of corners as this video shows: Also, Tevidon seekers might wanna check out these two articles, giving a well rounded look into the odd characteristics of Tevidon lenses, at least when it comes to the 10mm and the 16mm. I own the 16mm but don´t have an adapter yet. Charateristics regarding uneven focussing plane, and soft wide shots are to considered when going for the 10 and 16mm Tevidons. And, don´t pay more than 150 USD please, better not more than 80! So here are the nice reads about Tevidon character for the 10 and 16 mills. http://lenscraze.blogspot.de/2015/04/tevidon-10-2-c-mount.html http://lenscraze.blogspot.de/2015/05/tevidon-16-1-8.html Glenn, my vote would be E M5 II plus slr magic 17mm 1.6, if you can get the lens for around 300. Or the G85, which has nice colors too and classic Panasonic 1080p besides its obvious UHD mode. G85 might be the same price as the EM5II. So, unless you assume some better color magic, you might go for the G85. Though Oly color seems tempting. Panny IPB codec with 24mbps for 24p HD holds up pretty well too. A7 video looks gruesome:) Weak codec and aliasing nightmare. A7II might be interesting with its 50mbps codec, still not cheap though. Or maybe consider the A6000 instead of that, which can be found for 400USD and has a gotten an update for 50mbit codec. Check out Matt Kieleys A6000 birthday vid, not only a beautiful shortfilm but also showcase for A6000 colors and HD image.

Now that Canon sounds interesting for quick scenic projects. Does it cover full m43 sensor? cheers

I only read about the regular SLR Magic 17mm T1.6, a regular M43 lens, covering m43 sensor. Didnt know there was a special one for the BMPCC. This is the lens I read about: http://www.thephoblographer.com/2014/02/03/review-slrmagic-17mm-t1-6-micro-four-thirds/ An interesting lens for shooting letterboxed 1:2.35 with the BMPCC is the Mir 11m:

Yes, yes, yaw. Thanks to Seb Farges and his awesome videos I got myself an awesome SLR Magic 12mm T1.6 now! Yeeehaw! @jonpais, now we can do a battle of the 12mills. Oly 12mm 2.0 anyone?:) I am so happy, my first native lens in two years. My list now: classic 14-45mm, Panny 20mm 1.7, Oly 45 1.8 and soon in my hands SLR Magic. Magic! Nice vibe, really! One of the nice vibes masters is Seb Farges.

Very effective. Looking great. Awesome mood and pace and framing. What is the taking lens on this?

Love that lens more than the 24-40. It is lighter, ergonomics are close to perfect with a small cam like my GX85. Optically I think they are of same quality when it comes to resolution. The 24-40 has a beautiful heft, which is also beautiful to hold on to. For the 25-50 I paid only 15bucks, with postage plus an extra defect Sigma Zoommaster 35-70 2.8-3.5. Great bargain. Love the math behind it: 25x2 makes 50, great focal lenghts to have in one lens. Dunno, just like that lens a lot. It is a flare giant though. Would love to test the Rokkor 24-50 F4. That is not a bargain lens though. Would love to have a 25-75, there is none. What mount is your 25 50? Mountable on your 5D Mark III? Supercool range on that one for Fullframe RAW video? Please get that combo on, some day, Glenn!! Back to the thread now:)

Hallo Glenn, there was a Firmware update for HD 10bit 24p and 60p in April, 100mbit Long GOP, which should be a very, very fine codec. This is awesome, since the HD is pixel perfect Canon Cinema level up to 60p. HD from GX80 suffers Aliasing and Moire and has not the resolution of the G6. Bitrate is same, codec seemingly so. Downsampling from the sensor cannot be the same. Well I got two Oly cameras, a Pen EPL1 and a EP2. Should change my alias to PannySVHSpen:) Oly was always JPEG king before Fuji took the crown. I am scared of Panny Jpegs:) So EM5II seems a fun option. They still go for the same price as a G80 on the used market. By the way. G6 is really an awesome cam. Graded, it is the best image for the money and it is the best usablitiy for the money. I have convinced three people in the last two years to buy one:) I also like the feel of the body much better than from the G7. Have the G7 for four months now and have not filmed a single thing other than a CineD test for dynamic range testing. The G7s HD looks to be even better than from the G6 resolution wise. Saw a test on youtube comparing HD and the EX Tele modes.. Still, G6 ist the queen, Gh2 the legend, Gh4 the shining prince, GH3 the lost son and GH5 the king. G7 the beautiful princess, G85 the spectacular princess, GX85 the dandy niece princess. And GH1 the originator, Little Richard the Great.

Yeah, there are two great deals on renting a GH5 via sharing platform where I live. Package with two 64GB cards. I think I would shoot 1080p and 100mbit. Not sure if it has VLOG installed. Not sure about the use of CineD. I don´t have that much time for testing, so maybe in the end I shoot Natural again. A new camera is always raising new questions.

Hey Matt, pace and interviews and overall experience are nice. Gives me a nice artsfair vibe. Sometimes the harshness of the 12- 35 came through and some of the shakiness. I think a more moderate wide angle would be more tasty than a 12mm. I think the perfect setup would be a G85 with a China speedbooster and a Tokina 25-50mm F4. That also gives a nice mechanical control ring to the manual zoom. Did you turn sharpness all down to -5 on CineD?

Okay, Jon @jonpais and Glenn @mercer, It is starting to materialize. I will reshoot my exercise as a shortfilm end of August. It is going to have a vampire in it. Not sure, if shooting with G6, GX85 or renting a GH5. My GX85 is still depending on just one battery. No good:) Maybe this time using the luxury of a BCam.. Dreaming

Cool! Gonna watch more of their videos. It´s a fun thing because of the BTS knowledge you´ve been giving to all of us here on EOSHD. That makes watching even more worthwhile regarding a learning effect. Great stuff. Fuzzynormal of EOSHD is also a shooter who makes these small cameras shine in a very elegant and seemingly effortless manner. Art of Zen. Thanks for showing! Slider, no curve tracks then. You must be a wizzard of optical illusion then

Well done and shot short film. I pressed the prestigeous EOSHD like button. Chim in more. It´s a fun forum. cheers

Don´t make me buy those! Darn!:)

@cantsin, good question. I doubt there is a cheap good 24mm f2.0 lens. The Walimex 24mm 1.4 is not there, starts being sharp from 2.8 on, Fstop 1.4 for distant shots is miserable with it. For photo work the Oly 1.2 might be hard to beat in the 17mm m43 realm. For that money though I´d rather get a GH5 plus a SLR magic 12mm 1.6 and use its 1.4 crop for 4K Extele mode, making it like a 17mm lens on full frame M43. Full frame M43 sounds funky

Hey Oliver, great topic. Thanks for posting. I don´t use luts on REC709 footage, which I´ve mostly been shooting so far other than some FS700 8bit SLOG tests. The only ones I used with success are from Juan Melara, his free Kodak and Fuji Print Luts. Some interesting results can be achieved. But after two or three months I started to grade all my footage by hand. More reliable workflow with much better control and achieving better results regarding the final look. Here is my latest example of 8bit REC709 footage, shot with the kewl and always fresh Panny G6:) By the way, Oliver, we would love to see more of your awesome work in context with the cameras you shot them with. I think you could give great BTS glimpses into the trickery of small cam big result magic! Well here my latest shot and hand graded piece:

How could you let it go? It´s a Zuiko!:) What two 28mm f2s do you have? Had a Kiron Kino f2, which performed astonishingly poor unfortunately for my taste. Though it was in perfect condition, like brand new. Well, couldnt resist. I must post another Seb video. This time the legendary 12mm. Will be my next lens and a native one after a long time again. So here it goes, 12mm slr magic from the king of lens tests:

Great looking footage, Matt! That G7 and 12-35 combo is lookin great. So you used a curved dolly track filming on the wide end of 12mm? Looking exellent. I think you make every camera shine with your lighting and set up of a scene. Great work! Did you shoot more for hecticfilms? cheers