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With the Lumix S1 I had the first consumer camera with nice grain in lowlight instead of mush. Until that camera all DSLMs produced mushyness due to codec compression. C300ii does that, ugliest noise reduction in a 10bit cine camera body. By far the best mode, possibly even good, was the Cine 4K mode in that regard, 1080p 444 12 bit is terrible once the noise reduction kicks in. It then is as bad as a 8bit 420 codec of the same generation. Just sayin, that until some time you either had to spend big bucks or shoot with an external recorder to have any grain at all in lowlight.:) I recognized fixed pattenr noise, fpn, with my bmmcc but C300ii in the same scenarion gave me nasty mushines and the weirdest artefact I have witness, background shining through the face of a person. Pure wizzardry so to say😄 So how you all judge the S1 S1H noise? For me it is awesome when it has a chance to show with the great low light sensitivity of this cam. S5 must be the noise beauty bargain champ these days!

Hallo Emanuel, it arrived safely more than a week ago. Now I am waiting for a Cmount adapter which should arrive from winter olympics land. Ebay gives an approximate date in March! It is in perfect condition. Holds and weights beautifully in the hand. Thinking about the 22mm pancake. The 20mm pancake on M43 was one of my favorites btw when i got my first Dslm back then, a used Gf1, which is my favorite photo camera body up to this day. Quiete irrational and only due to its design and simplistic beauty. Hope the 22 does not have that gnarling MF and the super plasticy touch of the Pana 20mm. The Eos M recalls some of the exitement of the Gf1 days in me. My Gx85 is different but an awesome lil cam in its own right.

For the first time I am not excited for a new GH camera. Makes me a bit sad to realize that.:/ Andrew and members of this forum like Kye, if i remember this right, have been suggesting and inspiring the discussion about different form factors for hybrids. I was hoping for something else. With Prores LT to HQ for different resolutions and framerates it would bring some excitement back to me though. If for 5.7K 30p only, not so much. Prores 4444 in 2K modes and downsampled 2K opengate or S16 in 4to3 format with full S16 width, now we are talking.

No Sdi port.:( Hope they give it expandibility like the sdi interface for the Gh4, but with batterypower and much smaller. The S1h is a handsome camera. This picture though makes the GH6 look kinda cramped, rather unattractive to look at.

If you look closer on the photo from kyes post, it indeed appears to be the same or similar screen like the S1H one! @MrSMW @kye

Not commenting on affordable FD lenses since prices are high enough already.😊 55mm 1.2 asph, sheesh. One sold for "cheap" last weekend for 1600 EUR. They usually go for 3500 and more. Afaik all the Fd 35mm f2 lenses and other FDs as well will have mechanical faults due to use of rubber in the focussing mechanisms. My 35 70 f4 has a gnarling focussing sound and lens elements are rattling.

Great write up and presentation. Thanks. Back then you matched the Gh5 to Canon 5d Raw. Now mercer wants you to match the 5d back to the Gh5.😊 @hyalinejim Little joke, dear friends! Would also love some 5d3 magic in Kodak and Fuji flavors! I am looking forward to test this Lut. Until now I still prefer grading the Gh5 more than the S1. Could be that Gh5 is supposed to be in 709 color space when in VLog while the S1 is in VGamut. The larger color space giving a different response and metric when working curves. Anyway, thanks a lot and looking forward to what we can achieve with your lut.😊

Another tasty treat to watch before going to bed. Ordered a C-mount to Eos M adapter today. Will take a while to get here from the land of Olympic Wintergames 2022. Anyway, our friend zeek, who has no time to drop by anymore and is busy shooting great footage and uploading his beloved videos. Not a bad thing to do as we can see below.

I doubt it.:( @IronFilm

@leslieI think, it was the photo burst mode. So it might and hopefully would be found in the options for photo mode. Yeah, those times... We all surely accumulated a whole bunch of stuff in those times.:)

Talked to a "real" DP just two days ago. He really loved the image from the F3. I am just too wound up by editing that I dont prep much with other equipment but choose the tech which I am used to, C300ii and GH5, which both I rent as a package. But I am really looking forward to using this beauty!

Don't get us started. Two Iscomorphot 8 1.5x and not one of them rigged. Several Zeiss Tevidons and only the 35mm mounted. Two FS700 with EF speedboosters but only one mountable lens, a Tokina 28-70 2.6 in Nikon mount with a faulty Nikon to EF adapter. I have an Atomos Shogun waiting around without a cage and sofore unrigged and unused. So no tasty 10bit from one of the FS700 cams. For the two only FS700 job I rented a 24-105 and shot in 8bit HD. A silly story of being owned by stuff I own. Now some other people confess their sins. I might continue.

Thanks you very much for the insightful reflection and all the work! @kye Now i need to montage and edit all this information in my head.😊 @Emanuel I was always astonished by the montage of "chelovek s kino apparatom", which was edited by Elisaveta Svilova. I am astonished by some classic movies, by how good or great they are when I watch them for the first time. Some modern masterpieces are equally mindblowing and breathaking of course.

I was thinking about a beat up 5d3 for 400 Eur. But then the Eos M is such a small package with C-mount lenses and takes cheaper Sd cards and is much cheaper. Still got to look for adapter(s), 2nd and 3rd battery. I plan to take it as my to go camera rather than rigging it up. My S1 does 3x crop HD giving S16 feel but I find the Eos M super fascinating. For 72eur i dont miss ibis. For 4999 i would miss full hdmi though.😊 @Emanuel

@homestar_kevin I will, when i get around it. And you too, would be awesome if you find time to post some FD 35-105 goodness.😊The Canon has been on my mind for years. I always wanted to get it for a super bargain. Now i bought a big, heavy, more expensive but beautiful varifocal Konica instead.😉 It's rather called a varifocal lens instead of zoom lens. It changes its focal point drastically when changing focal length.

EosMkomodo. lol😆 It should arrive today. I paid 72eur for the cam, a battery and charger, shipping included. Now I need to buy adapters and a fast SDcard. Could be my to go cam and give my GX85 some rest. Pure C-mount 2.8K S16 Raw heaven. Without Ibis.😊 Thanks to @ZEEK @tupp @Matt James Smith ?

@leslie To the point! Camera conspis is fine for what it is BUT do i yearn to recipe it instead of watching Tony Zhou or better one of the masterpiece films in his essays or better enjoy any other beautiful fullfilling activity? No. I bought my 28 Fd six1/2 years ago. It's a newFD lens, mechanically nothing close to Zeiss or others but working smoothly. But this tiny lens is a marvel in the IQ department. It's still affordable around 40 to 70 Euro. Now other FD primes and some zooms are getting expensive. The L or aspherical lenses are reaching into Leica madness, I mean Leica M! Get the tiny 28 Fd as long as they are cheap. Put it on a cheapo focal reducer an enjoy.:)

@leslie There is appreciation for good stuff. When I talk about lenses to people in real life, they love it. After all my 20eu Canon Fd 28mm 2.8 looks like Hollywood even though it's no f2 Distagon. That lens shines on 0.71 speedbosted Mft with full sensor width. On cropped 4K with G7, G85, Gh4, GX85, Gx9 there is some sensor estate and magic missing. Factor 0.64 might give enough back. But no cheapo focal reducer offers that. Just saying to get back to the topic of sensor size😊 One a sidenote. My gain in sensor estate with a focal reducer also made me avoid my ordinary faulty adapter. Latter had too much light bouncing inside due to reflective surfaces. That screwed up my footage under sunlight. Always good to experiment and try things in a practical manner. Such as sensor sizes or estate.

Or rewatch Tony Zhou! Which i hopefully will take my time to do soon again. @MrSMW

The 35-100 promises an impressive image. There are quiete a few impressive and worthy vintage 2x and 3x zooms out there! My 35-100 with the two scratches must have other faults as well, like webrunner said. I was exited when Rinad pointed this lens out to us back then and I am super exited to have one which is like new plus two more used up ones. Some sellers from Japan offer mint ones for 700 bucks. An impressive piece of glass and no worthy and hardly any footage on the web! That is indeed pretty surprising to me! I mean, come on, it's a 35-100 F2.8, with great results wide open! Your reaction is a bit understating.:) Btw there is still no focal reducer for Konica mount. That might have hindered Konica lenses sky rocketting among vintage glass film crowd. Now with cheaper FF offerings of mirrorless that starts to change.

@tupp Thanks, mine is on its way, hehe🙂

CZzzzzzzzzzzzz, the sweeter the sound. 🙂 I will follow with some Konica 35-100mm goodness. Hard to believe that hardly any footage exists on the web!

Andrew, you´re right! I would respect the rules as a participant of this challenge!:) But thanks to the originial poster CyclingBen for giving me ideas beyond it.

Now that! That´s a sight super worth and exiting to be seen! Though your Canon Dream Lens on the FF camera of your choice would be really something as well! Or maybe the Pentax "Zeiss Hollywood" 28mm F2.0, since you, BTMPix and webrunner are running our eyes watering with mentioning all that Zeiss magic. @kye I agree with the logic of seperating parameters of an image and to work them in Post. You have shown some kewl examples of your own colour exploration and put Yedlin on our map. Thank you very much! Just our logic of what one did state or not in this thread differs from one another. I am happy with that, even moreso with your input of course. After all, Django, you, me and others do love the Arri video. I can stop arguing now with that realization.

Hoping for some RAW goodness from 5d, Sigma FP and Bmpcc/Bmmcc. Also some 8bit nerd passion and fun vintage oddities. Andrew could show off his Canon dream lens. So many cool combos I would love to see. Someone had a Tokina 60-120 2.8. There is a photo of a Sony PMW F3 with a Nikon 28 to 70 with a Isco video 16:9 in the treasure corners of the EOSHD archives. Or the lightest gear, camera, lens like CyclingBen suggested in the original post. Well, I surely am with you on getting out again for some leisure time camera fun! @leslie