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Lumix S line prices are rising again on the used market. Vintage and quirky Mft cameras too. I got an orange GM5 with a 12-32 lens and two batteries for a good price two years ago, with the box, everything in great condition except the leather case. They cost up to three times as much now of what I paid two years ago! Here it is, a flimsy beauty, a tiny S9 minus 4K 10bit, but with evf, mechanical shutter and hotshoe:)

It's a broken record playing, but it's always playing when I am thinking about the S9. Panny, please give us pancake primes and zooms, a successor with S1 quality Evf, mechanical shutter and hotshoe. Full size hdmi would be nice too. Matt Frazer, can you hear us!:)

Thanks for sharing @eatstoomuchjam Product text is hillarious! Thanks for indicating.:) @MrSMW Is Cam Mackey changing the game of presenting game changing cameras? Are all new cameras changing the game of being a camera mac? What game is it exactely?

Used S5 cameras are being sold for used GH5 prices. Great value! @Tim Sewell Anyone using an A7IV, how is battery life, overheating, S35 readout and 4K quality, codec and noise characteristics at lowlight and higher Isos? S1II has flagship specs and a mid tier body, selling for a flagship price. So it seems okish, wheras the og S1 and S5 felt like bargains back then. It will be interesting to see if used cameras like Lumix S line will rise in reaction to the higher priced new models.

It will shoot the most awesome video you will ever see, with a tan, a bird logo? What are you referring to and, by the goddesses of your native tongue, what are you talking about?

No kidding? @Andrew Reid I love the colours people are getting from the M8 sensor. Some classy classic read from a photoblog favorite of mine. Those colours in these shots, bw as well! https://blog.mingthein.com/2012/07/12/revisiting-the-leica-m8-a-cheap-entry-into-digital-rangefinders/

Darn. They really work hard to make this camera look bad with their color grading and uninspiring filming. Cinealta F3 amateur work looks stellar on the other hand. Tells us a lot about the shooter and the camera. Whereas none of the S1II videos I've watched so far show me much about its image quality. Tells us nothing about the camera but everything about the shooter. Maybe watching cammacky will give some insight. But that guy sells every camera equally well.

I just saw a video with the S1II, shot for a big review site. It was a rather lazy display of cinematography, in concept and realisation. Shouldn't working for a huge review site be rather inspiring for the tester to do the cameras justice when using it in the field! They don't make it easy for us to want to buy a camera. Good!:) Nikon Z6III for 2100 Eur new, now that is a whole lotta camera for that price! Maybe there are some convincing comparison videos between Z6III and S1II with convincing video work. Names are both kinda equally meh.:)

Of course, Lumexa😎 S16 gate on the S1II would be around 2100 x 1250px, considering a 2.88 crop factor and a 1.66 aspect ratio. That's not too bad, better than the og pocket. Mft sized gate would sport around 3000px in width.

I meant, beside being a FF camera, give it a variety of formats/gates. Wouldn't that be a jam.:) @eatstoomuchjam

And 10bit Hlg or log, please. Call it the Lumix Bolex and a sister model the Lumix Bolex ND. Give it a S16, 16, 2/3, S8 and 8mm gate mode plus GH4 battery life. @eatstoomuchjam

That goes for many cameras, all of the 10bit bunch for sure. Nowadays users are obsessed with numbers but grade their footage to the shittiest outcome possible. It's really laughable. GH2 or GH4 videos look better by average than many videos by current cameras. That says a lot about these kinds of users from back then.

As long as colours look shitty enough, everbody seems to be happy.😊 A lot of youtube footage from the current 10bit and raw cameras makes CineD on the Gh4 look like from a grand era of color science. I really loved the colors from your Bmmcc footage and I liked them better than GH7. @kye I've only liked the color from half a hand full of GH6/7 videos, one of them with high production values by Olan Collardy. It seems to me like it's harder for a lot of people to treat log footage shot in natural light, coming from these modern hybrid cameras of the last five years. I like my og bmpcc much better than my Lumix S in that regard, same with stuff available on youtube.

LX10 in photo raw is very nice. If it had 10bit HLG for video, it would be a perfect pocket camera, even moreso with an evf. I don't enjoy slippery phones for taking images, billions of people do though. I love the 24 to 70 F1.4-2.8 zoom on the LX btw. A 24 to 50 zoom coupled with a 1 or 1/1.5" sensor would be nice and a mechanical focus wheel as well. Afaik only a few phones offer the latter. Is that right? Are these your shots? @Andrew Reid Nice images and colours. @Cosimo Colors remind me of GH2 palette when in use of skilled hands. Old school digi vintage look by oldschool 8bit masters like Martin Walgren or Andrew Reid.:) That reminds me how much of imagelovers GH2 users were when creating their pieces. I barely find any good stuff shot on recent cameras. The destruction of vimeo didn't help that I guess.

I've been thinking about the 15mm Panny Leica for a while. It's a pretty looking lens. I am very happy with my 14mm pancake though, which is an awesome little lens on my GX85 and my og pocket. The 15mm has about 1 stop more light gathering in comparison. If it had a clutch mechanism for hard stops in MF like the Oly 12 and 17mm, it would be hard to resist for me. There is also a cheaper Dji branded variante out there which came with Dji's mft raw recording gimbal camera. What would speak for the Sigma over the Leica? Maybe the big focus ring and ultimate image quality? Though I imagine the Panny Leica is no slouch in the image department. What camera would you mount your lens of choice to? Did I read something about a GH6 or GH7? Maybe big lens for a big camera then?:) @mercer