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No kidding? @Andrew Reid I love the colours people are getting from the M8 sensor. Some classy classic read from a photoblog favorite of mine. Those colours in these shots, bw as well! https://blog.mingthein.com/2012/07/12/revisiting-the-leica-m8-a-cheap-entry-into-digital-rangefinders/

Darn. They really work hard to make this camera look bad with their color grading and uninspiring filming. Cinealta F3 amateur work looks stellar on the other hand. Tells us a lot about the shooter and the camera. Whereas none of the S1II videos I've watched so far show me much about its image quality. Tells us nothing about the camera but everything about the shooter. Maybe watching cammacky will give some insight. But that guy sells every camera equally well.

I just saw a video with the S1II, shot for a big review site. It was a rather lazy display of cinematography, in concept and realisation. Shouldn't working for a huge review site be rather inspiring for the tester to do the cameras justice when using it in the field! They don't make it easy for us to want to buy a camera. Good!:) Nikon Z6III for 2100 Eur new, now that is a whole lotta camera for that price! Maybe there are some convincing comparison videos between Z6III and S1II with convincing video work. Names are both kinda equally meh.:)

Of course, Lumexa😎 S16 gate on the S1II would be around 2100 x 1250px, considering a 2.88 crop factor and a 1.66 aspect ratio. That's not too bad, better than the og pocket. Mft sized gate would sport around 3000px in width.

I meant, beside being a FF camera, give it a variety of formats/gates. Wouldn't that be a jam.:) @eatstoomuchjam

And 10bit Hlg or log, please. Call it the Lumix Bolex and a sister model the Lumix Bolex ND. Give it a S16, 16, 2/3, S8 and 8mm gate mode plus GH4 battery life. @eatstoomuchjam

That goes for many cameras, all of the 10bit bunch for sure. Nowadays users are obsessed with numbers but grade their footage to the shittiest outcome possible. It's really laughable. GH2 or GH4 videos look better by average than many videos by current cameras. That says a lot about these kinds of users from back then.

As long as colours look shitty enough, everbody seems to be happy.😊 A lot of youtube footage from the current 10bit and raw cameras makes CineD on the Gh4 look like from a grand era of color science. I really loved the colors from your Bmmcc footage and I liked them better than GH7. @kye I've only liked the color from half a hand full of GH6/7 videos, one of them with high production values by Olan Collardy. It seems to me like it's harder for a lot of people to treat log footage shot in natural light, coming from these modern hybrid cameras of the last five years. I like my og bmpcc much better than my Lumix S in that regard, same with stuff available on youtube.

LX10 in photo raw is very nice. If it had 10bit HLG for video, it would be a perfect pocket camera, even moreso with an evf. I don't enjoy slippery phones for taking images, billions of people do though. I love the 24 to 70 F1.4-2.8 zoom on the LX btw. A 24 to 50 zoom coupled with a 1 or 1/1.5" sensor would be nice and a mechanical focus wheel as well. Afaik only a few phones offer the latter. Is that right? Are these your shots? @Andrew Reid Nice images and colours. @Cosimo Colors remind me of GH2 palette when in use of skilled hands. Old school digi vintage look by oldschool 8bit masters like Martin Walgren or Andrew Reid.:) That reminds me how much of imagelovers GH2 users were when creating their pieces. I barely find any good stuff shot on recent cameras. The destruction of vimeo didn't help that I guess.

I've been thinking about the 15mm Panny Leica for a while. It's a pretty looking lens. I am very happy with my 14mm pancake though, which is an awesome little lens on my GX85 and my og pocket. The 15mm has about 1 stop more light gathering in comparison. If it had a clutch mechanism for hard stops in MF like the Oly 12 and 17mm, it would be hard to resist for me. There is also a cheaper Dji branded variante out there which came with Dji's mft raw recording gimbal camera. What would speak for the Sigma over the Leica? Maybe the big focus ring and ultimate image quality? Though I imagine the Panny Leica is no slouch in the image department. What camera would you mount your lens of choice to? Did I read something about a GH6 or GH7? Maybe big lens for a big camera then?:) @mercer

Would love to see the Konica 40mm on your FP, even moreso on your 5DIII. @mercer But I think, flange of Konica is shorter than EF. I have an extra adapter for L to Konica mount besides my EF to L adapter. So I am pretty sure, flange should be shorter than EF. I still have a sleeper lens, a 50mm f2 Schneider Kreuznach in Akarette mount. I am not sure if there is an adapter out there, as there were barely any professional ones around for Mft. Akarette like Akarelle is a viewfinder camera with mountable lenses. Lenses and cameras are from the 50ies.

The mighty 35 to 100 F2.8 zoom. I got three of them in search of a perfect one. It is an exiting piece of class. It´s from around 1968 to early 1970ies afaik. Back in the day it was a very expensive and overengineered lens with the goal of being on par with primes. Happy hunting to find one in good condition.:)

Could be the sensor from the Nikon D60 btw. @MurtlandPhoto I used to fancy that Epson camera years ago. For photography I love a plastic fantastic Canon Autoboy, a Oly 35RC or a Ricoh 500G and other ps and fixed lens rangefinders. I had a great summer with the mju II, XA and 35RC Olys when film was still affordable. I had so much fun trying out an Oly 35 SP or a Yashica Lynx 14, which I have sold since then. I love using the og pocket for the image, for the size and the whole feeling. The quirks are fun and a great challenge to grow on, though I would not include the battery in this category but rather name it what it is, a nervewrecking flaw. I love to combine things in ways that exite in regards to handling, artistic possibilities, the right strokes with the right brushes, like the og pocket with an AF 14mm Lumix lens or a S1H with a 35mm C-mount Zeiss, making me feel an artistic rush and sensation.

There are discussions about specs and there are discussions about discussions which are about specs. This is the thread to find both of them.😊 It´s also the right place to ask, if anyone in this thread would love to do a Lumix S series "challenge" of filming fun and task? Who would like to participate? How about some telelens action, 70 to 200mm range fi? Urban life, 120p slowmo, leaves and trees in a captivating montage? What else comes to mind? You name it.

Filmstock Lynch Dune > digital Villeneuve Dune, Filmstock Bladerunner > digital Bladerunner 2049. Oh boy, I´m in trouble now. The original Bladerunner is a stunningly beautiful and groundbreaking scifi neo noir, in which color makes the world materialize like one can touch and breathe it. Bladerunner 2049, though a well designed and high class realization, is rather abstract and reduced in regards to composition, geometry and colour imo. Lighting, though a tour de force of effort and technological prowess, feels streamlined to me. In comparision, light in the original Bladerunner is vivid, lively, wild and untamed, of opulent baroqueness. 2020ies Dune felt hollow to me, when I watched it on Netflix. It looked and felt like a center perspective duotone coloured video game. I just read that it was transferred from digital to analogue and then scanned back to digital. Posh spice! 😊 The 1980ies Dune was fun and a best of 80ies spectacle with a meditative prologue and full of atmosphere, great ambitions and quirky failures, a cult classic with lasting charme and soul. Though I prefer the analogue filmmaking of masters like Lynch and Scott over filmmaking of current times Villeneuve, I would not say that analogue Roger Deakins is better than digital Deakins. I imagine there would be more bad analogue movies than good ones and at the same time more digital mediocrity out there than analogue lacklusters in absolute numbers, due to the sheer amount of digital output. A statement about analogue being better than digital is very general and misses a lot in regards of the beauty and quality of digital filmmaking. The og post is still a good tease for a lively discussion and a well written fun read. It sofore deserves my big like! I do not a agree on the general premise of the original post but I can share its love for originality and sincerity for cinema, though I found that in digital as well. I love the number of quirky, playful, inventive shorts, semi pro music videos, classic and not so classic indies and labours of love, which have been produced since the rise of 8bit 420 cameras. I love the 8bit 420 gems of old days vimeo as well as full scale digital cinema movies like Lighthouse, oops that one was analogue.;) I don't care for most of the high scale Hollywood or Netflix Blockbusters but I love tons of other digitally filmed, edited and graded films and videos I got to enjoy. On a side note, the first Raid movie was an 8bit 422 masterpiece in many regards, the glory of Panasonic AF100 output to an Atomos Ninja. Most of you know that, of course. I still enjoyed mentioning it.:)