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Well obviously I missed that part... ah doy

Crap, for some reason I thought that video was going to be Ursa footage. When I saw Fujifilm X at the end of the video, my jaw dropped.

@Sage can you post another link to the manual? I know it is somewhere in this thread but I can’t read through the entire thing again and I don’t see it on your website. Kern’s are Swiss, but as a general rule anything over 25mm SHOULD cover the sensor. It gets a little more complicated when you try TV lenses, then you need to look for ones that are for 1” sensors. With the G7 and GX85 I was able to get full coverage with 12.5mm Fujinon and Canon 1” TV lenses but those cameras had a slight 4K crop.

They probably will but a little skepticism isn’t the worse thing in the world. I believe I am buying a camera based on the definitive given specs, if I get anything more out of it, then great, if not then I knew what I was buying... which was an issue with the Micro when it was released with the lack of global shutter that was promised at announcement.

And this is exactly what I find ridiculous about what the “dslr revolution” turned into. I am fairly certain that the owner of that rig could have just gone out and bought an FS5, an Ursa Pro, an EVA1 or a C200 and saved some money and pride. When I had the Micro, I hated myself for rigging it up this much...

Nah, what they may have done is forced Apple to go a step further with ProRes Raw but I doubt Apple will abandon one of their products because a small company in Australia made a competing product.

Well, there were a few instances in the past that BM said a camera was getting an upgrade or a spec was going to be included that never panned out so although I believe they are trying, I wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t happen. As far as what is available to other manufacturers, all I’ve heard is that the SDK is free for post workflows and an insinuation that other camera manufacturers can include BRaw in their cameras but I’m assuming there will be a licensing fee for those companies.

I hope so.

For sure it will be free? Because I’m not so sure. At a certain point we need to question what BM’s end game is here. This idea that they are for the little guy doesn’t pay their bills. Somebody posted that Olympus loses $150 for every camera they sell in the US... well at BM prices, how much are they losing? Is this just a way to get the user to an upgrade path? Are they only making a little per unit, so they are relying on quantity sold to make their profit? Are they going to release a better Resolve next NAB that makes the studio version antiquated? In the end, it doesn’t matter much because the price of the P4K is still unbelievable and is the best deal on the market, but I think there may be some assumptions floating around. Good news is that the investment isn’t that large and BM doesn’t really drop the price of their cameras, so the resale value should hold up pretty well if the tool isn’t for you.

Well IF BRaw gets implemented in the P4K, I believe he said they are working on it, do we know for sure it will be a free update?

Are they shipping next week, good news. I’m looking forward to see what camera nerds can do with the camera. Also, I hope when/if the P4K gets BRaw, that it has the 1080p variants like the Ursa Pro has and that it isn’t cropped.

Raw is unnecessary for 95% of the people on here... as is ProRes really. IBIS is definitely a more relevant feature for a videographer. With that being said, I’d love for one of the major manufacturers to license ProResLT, I just watched a few videos online from the Ursa Mini 4K, since it can be had for about the same price as a kitted P4K, and the ProResLT videos looked amazing... for web consumption at least. Since ProRes is less processor intensive than an h.264 codec, it would have been a great move for Canon if they are indeed having heat dissipation issues. To add, I am very intrigued with the Z6 and the 10bit external. I’m probably going to pick up a BMVA this Fall, for a project, does the Z6 output 10bit 1080 as well, or is it just 4K?

@Jimmy those car shots look unbelievable. This is some of the first consumer 4K that looks organic to me. I cannot believe a lot of those shots were Eterna ungraded. With every passing month, my hybrid choices just keep getting cluttered with more options... definitely a good place to be, though. Man I hope they release an X-H2 soon, because these features even with moderately good IBIS will be unbelievable.

Is their codec going to be 800mbps all-i? If Panasonic is really going to go all in with 8K FF, they could be the next company out of the camera business. IMO.

I thought I read that there is a strong rumor suggesting 16mm flange distance and a 2x crop mode, so in M4/3 crop mode, with an adapter, m4/3 lenses will work. Not a bad idea to keep existing customers that may be interested in moving to FF. Unless there is some type of internal/external Raw or internal ProRes, I don’t really see the point of a FF Panasonic. It seems like they’re grasping at straws here... especially if it doesn’t have IBIS.

The comments section was as interesting as the article.

@KnightsFan I doubt ML will implement BMRaw in camera but it may be possible for some of the post apps to convert to it. But I don’t know about this “encoder” how were they able to implement BMRaw into the Ursa Mini Pro?

How is FF 14 bit Raw even at 1080p irrelevant? When you add Canon’s color science plus DPAF for Raw video... plus a 30mp stills camera. Any 4K 14bit or even 3K with a crop is just gravy. Well a lot of people are convinced the free code can be implemented into cameras? I think it is for post workflows only?

Well told story. Stop buying cameras and turn that into a short film.

I’m not so sure it will be implemented in other manufacturer’s cameras. It seems the support and development kit is available for post software.

So is this only available on the Ursa Pro right now? I’d love for the Mini 4K to get it, that camera is getting to no brainer price levels on the used market. Looks great, thanks for finding it. Love the the thickness and detail on the older man’s face.

I’m trying to find out if BM Raw is available on the original Ursa Mini? The price of that cam is getting silly low on the used market and the sample with the old man does look great. As a whole, I’d still prefer FF 2K Raw from a 5D4 than the P4K though. But I could find some use for a Ursa Mini with BM Raw.

Exactly, and BM doesn’t have AF. Plus 1080p Raw on the P4K is a 4x crop. The new BM Raw is interesting but I wonder how much better BM Raw really is compared to ProRes HQ. I haven’t read up on BM Raw or watched the video but it almost sounds like BM’s way to stop licensing ProRes. But I digress, it will be interesting to see what ML can do with the 5D4, even with the original mjpeg engine. Hopefully they can get the Canon Log version working with Raw in the future as well because the camera isn’t much more with it and it will be nice to have the option. To add, BM Raw and the development kit could really help with ML. A conversion to 12:1 BM Raw in the MLV App could save a lot of space in post.

I’d be thrilled with 2K Raw up to 60p continuous with DPAF... well worth the upgrade. If they can get a 2.7K “Alexa” mode, or even 3K with a clean liveview... well that’s just icing on the cake.

Okay and that’s fine. These videos are released to see the strengths of the camera and if the shaky footage bothered Bioskop, then it bothered him. Is he not entitled to an opinion? The shaky footage bothers me a lot less than the fact that I think the video just doesn’t look good. It seems like it needs IR filtration and I almost wonder if he thought it was set to Raw but was actually set to ProResLT. The lowlight is impressive, though. I am really interested to see how it compares with the Micro footage.