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I almost bought a GH5 a month ago... this video was one of the reasons I didn't...

I was thinking you might not be a fan of the GH5. Did you get a chance to mess around with the 3K ML Raw?

That's great news, Fritz. I wish you luck. I wouldn't count out the C200 as an option for you either. From the pictures it looks like it may be a beast of a camera. The 4K from the XC10 is the nicest 4K I have ever seen on a sub $2000 camera, so with a S35mm sensor, it should be gorgeous.

Again yes, my discussion got sidetracked. And yes, obviously I am no company's target audience. Now I assume Panasonic will not be including Raw export in their cameras and I think that's a big mistake. Raw export and 5-axis IBIS will trump Canon's DPAF, IMO. But to be fair, as a no budget filmmaker, I would never use a cinema camera anyway because it draws too much attention. But I still think at $6500, the Panny should export Raw... if not what do they have that you can't get from Sony or Canon for less money?

Yeah but the picture is literally the best indicator here since that is the camera under that shroud. It clearly does not show a Micro 4/3 mount, maybe it has swappable mounts, but it looks like the EF lens is flush to camera mount... so it is most likely an EF lens. And unless they are still using a version 1 model, the EF mount is probably pretty accurate. Now it doesn't necessarily make sense for them to do that, but if you had to be stuck with native glass, I'd rather have the EF than Micro 4/3, but I'd really, really would like to mount c-mounts and Canon FDs and Minoltas, but the productions these will be used for wouldn't probably do such a thing, so EF it is.

Hey Jon, not to be contrary, but I've always followed Noam Kroll's suggestions for CineLikeD... Con 0, Sharp -5, NR -5, Sat -5. Now he actually prefers CineLikeV in most instances, especially outdoors in bright sun and in CineLikeV he flips Contrast and Saturation, so Con -5, Sharp -5, NR -5, Sat 0. never really tried CineLikeV because I was always pleased with his recommended settings for CineLikeD. I also always underexposed CineLikeD by a 1/3 of a stop to dead center. I think @kidzrevil said he read the Panasonic white papers and that's what they suggest for the curve as well. If you use zebras, I would think 85-90% would probably be a better setting. I am not a fan of ETTR for 8bit footage. Too much info will be blown and the contrast curve will be out of whack. Of course if it works for you, then who am I to say.

So, I hope someone with some coding skills takes a look at BTM's finds to see if something more can be done. The GX85 or G85 would be epic with 200mbps 1080p.

Man, I would love to be able to get the high bitrate all-i 1080p on a 5-axis camera. I recently tested the FZ2500 again and I just love that 200mbps and CineLikeD, but I'd love it better with interchangeable lenses, on a bigger sensor, and 5-Axis IBIS... and the big AND... less than a thousand dollars.

Fair enough. How many more stops of DR does VLog give compared to Like 709?

Why not just use Like 709 Profile?

Can't you just use a preset WB, film the grey card at the beginning of your take and then use the picker tool in Color Finale Pro to give you middle grey... or 18% grey... whichever it is?

Nice work, John... I loved the second to last shot. I really enjoy the intimate stories you portray in your films. If not for you, I would never know of this couple in Hiroshima or the Harley subculture of Japan.

Okay John, one last question about the 1080p... did you use Digital IS in this video along with the Sigma's OIS? If so, is there any crop?

I don't remember if this was asked, but can you also change the parameters of CineLikeD... dial down sharpness, noise reduction... ?

Gotcha, that makes sense. That a7s is a wicked tool. Some of the nicest 1080p video I have seen online was shot with an a7s. I came across this video a few weeks ago. I'm already heavily invested in Canon and ML Raw, but if I hadn't been I may have picked up an a7s based on this video alone. This guy used sLog2 without any profile modifications... He used a Minolta 35mm 1.8... which is one of my favorite lenses of all time. I had to sell it a few years back because I needed some extra cash... I still regret it. That 24mm of yours would look good under similar lighting, I would think? It may look nicer.

It looks nice. Good separation and pop for a 24mm in low light. I watched the duck video earlier. Same thinking as this one. Smooth zoom too... that clear zoom is pretty slick. That's also some pretty good color... what profile are you using with your a7s?

It seems like it has every command for every camera. I saw the 200mbps mov options in there. I assume there is some piece of code which communicates which camera the app is communicating with? I wonder if there is a way to trick it if the code could be singled out? I assume a GH4 would be needed to figure out that one line of code... plus a whole lot of time. Pretty cool stuff. Good job @BTM_Pix !!!

VLog is there. Is it possible to change the enable option between <> from no to yes? I assume you cannot change the HTML code, just enable what's available?

Haha, not a bad idea. You could probably just use the picker tool in Color Finale Pro on your white t-shirt and get a pretty accurate balance.

There's that damn 24mm f/1.4 FD that's been haunting my wallet. Do you have any videos with that lens?

In my opinion vintage glass has more character to the image. Sometimes that character can lend to a more cinematic look. Different lens brands are known for different properties. My recommendation if you want to try out vintage lenses, the first get is a Takumar. They're inexpensive and insanely well built. The 50mm 1.4 is a nice lens and also the Takumar 35mm f3.5 is an amazing lens. If it's too slow for your tastes, then the f/2 version is really nice as well. Minolta lenses are amazing. Just the right amount of sharpness and character. The 35mm 1.8 is probably the silkiest, creamy lens I've ever used. Also the PG 50mm 1.4 lens could be the nicest 50mm lens ever made. The next step up would be Canon FDs. Their L series are epic. There's a 24mm 1.4 that I've been drooling over for years. FDs are known to have a very cinematic look. The next step up and in some ways the most cinematic of the photographic lenses at a modest price point would be the Nikkors, then the Contax Zeiss. I didn't even mention the Soviet lenses or the East German lenses. Just be warned... when you start using vintage lenses, it can easily become addicting and there is a very good chance you will not be interested in those modern, clinical lenses of yours any longer.

Or possibly if a DSLR had 15 stops of DR with filmlike highlight rolloff... plus everything else you listed...

Again, under the right circumstances, specifically a good shooter and a great colorist, the GH5 is awesome. But those videos did nothing to prove to me it's as good as a Red. In fact, I thought the Red was staggeringly better... specifically in the shot that showed the cloudy background. The color separation and depth in the Red shot blew the GH5 away. With that being said, I'm sure the GH5 is a more enjoyable shooting experience, so if you want to put that into the equation (I wouldn't) then yeah... the GH5 is better than the Alexa too. Anyway, I am going to politely bow out of this conversation because it is starting to go somewhere mythical.

Do you have an LX100? I wonder if it's possible to get CineLikeD on that one. Also, I believe it shared a sensor with the GH4, so maybe the high bitrate, all-i 1080 is switchable via wi-fi as well. Now that would be cool.

Haha, nice one. Is it difficult to switch it on, via wi-fi, if you cannot make it permanent? I did a test last fall with the GX85, L. Monochrome and a Rokinon 12mm lens. And the combo was great handheld. It almost kept me from selling the camera, but a $700 camera + a $300 lens was a bit much to justify a B&W only camera... I don't really like any other Panasonic color profile, other than CineLikeD... so if this is possible and permanent, or easily switched on when needed, I may have found my simple 4K camera.