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Is there even an external recorder that can record 5.7k raw?

Looked at it quick, thought it was 9:15 pacific. Thanks.

So... what happened with the Panasonic announcement? I thought it was supposed to be this morning?

I heard that too, but I'm unsure why it would be so complex... the XC10 is 2 years old and it uses an 8bit 4:22 XF-AVC codec for its 4K. I guess a different sensor and new processor equals different and new complexities?

You have to take what he says with a grain of salt... he is so anti-canon, he will pretty much believe or promote anything that puts Canon in a bad light. Without confirmation from Canon, there is probably no way to know for sure, at this point, if Canon's brand new processor is capable of 10bit or not.

Yeah, that guy did an awesome job with that video. Even my friends and family have looked at a few things I have shot and were surprised I shot it... LOL. Everything looks cinematic with the 5D3... gotta love it. With the short I'm working on now, I have mainly used that 24-70mm f/4 lens entirely handheld and although it's not exactly tripod steady, or as steady as Olympus' IBIS, it's as steady as it would have been with my Nikkor 28mm lens and a monopod. For me that's good enough.

Haha, Jon... seriously I didn't read your comment before I commented. It may not be CineLikeD. It could definitely be standard. I have always been a fan of the way Marty colors his videos. He gets some deep shades. Honestly I am sorry I even brought up CineLikeD settings and exposure. I prefer to underexpose by a 1/3 a stop. Your stuff looks good ETTRd so in the end it doesn't matter. I don't even own a Panasonic camera anymore... so who cares what I think.

That's 1080p? That looks fantastic Marty!!! Is this CineLikeD?

Really? Can you shoot a comparison of the two. I think we'd all be interested to see that. But to be honest I'm not surprised.

Well he only warp stabilized a couple of his shots. To be fair.

Also, an XC25 with the 10bit Raw could be a great B Cam... at $2500 or $3000, I may be a buyer. Maybe do a 1.5" sensor instead of the 1" and an f/2 to f/4 lens... or f/2.8 to f/4.

Yeah, that's all I can base it on. This camera is such a surprise, I wouldn't be surprised if the 2018 FW update is 10bit instead of 8bit. It may depend on what Panny and Sony do between now and then.

In Raw it does. With 4K or 1080p cLog you don't need 10bit. It was designed for 8bit.

Okay that makes sense. I never even thought it would require so many nodes. In FCPX, I would do 3-5 layers and other than the obvious bitrate advantage, I wasn't seeing anything better, color-wise... separation and tonality, than I was getting with the Panny's 200mbps 1080 with CineLikeD. I just watched your Homecoming trailer. That was shot with the BMCC, correct? How many of those 9+ nodes did you use LUTS with?

I assume you want it for the 5D3? I have the Canon 24-70mm f/4 for my 5D3. It has IS and with full frame you can still get some decent shallow depth with it. The IS is amazing on it. I bought it because of this video... According to the creator, that was shot entirely handheld, with only a little warped stabilizer used in a couple shots. I shot this with it wide open... So in full frame you can still get some shallow depth with it.

Ahem, where exactly did I use highlight clipping and highlight rolloff interchangeably? I just went back and reread my comments and cannot find it. And wait, I'm confused... In Panasonic's White Paper from 2016, they reference the Leeming LUT and invite people to learn how to ETTR from it?

C'mon even you, the resident Canon hater, has to be a little impressed with this camera... even just a wittle eensie weensie bit?

Yeah, I think all rumors point to it having the Varicam sensor. I assume it will be called the Varicam Mini or Micro. It should be a wicked camera but a S35mm cinema cam with 5-axis IBIS and Raw... even at 1080p would be pretty epic.

Man, that is some amazing lowlight information. The Ursa is an amazing camera. I get along better with ML Raw than BM. I could never make Pocket or Micro footage look good but ML Raw I find much easier to work with for my skill set... I've been trying to find a run and gun camera with IBIS for my "point and shoot" film but with the OIS on my 24-70mm, I really can't get much more run and gun than ML Raw. I have another option or two to test, but I think I am definitely going to try and put together an adapted script to shoot this summer... now I just need to decide how lo-fi I want to go, camera-wise.

Panasonic may just be creating a last minute firmware roadmap after Canon's bombshell. Panny's cine camera NEEDS 5-axis and Raw output IMO. You gotta love blind competition.

I had the Tokina 35mm f/2 which Soligor also rebranded. If the 35mm is any indication, then the 28mm Soligor should be a treat.

That seems like a good price for that lens, although I've never used one, I've always drooled over the Contax Zeiss 28mm f2 "The Hollywood." I assume they're similar in characteristics?

Yeah I think the MP4s biggest benefit is for dual recording proxy files. The xavcs should be 10bit, but they surprisingly gave so much I can't really complain. Of course this is easy for me to say because I will probably never own one. Too pricey for my wallet... even though the b model is an easier pill to swallow... but also because I only shoot run and gun guerilla style, so it's not really the best of choices.

I've had all three, the Nikon, Canon and Minolta. I paid less than $200 for each of them. They are all excellent. I only kept the Nikon. But at one point I kept the Minolta and sold the Nikon. And then I bought another Nikon but just recently sold the Minolta. Really only because I don't have a camera to use the Minolta with any more.

Did I mention I write horoscopes on the side.