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I'd agree with most of the above suggestions (having owned most of the cameras mentioned) - personally I'd go with the LX100 or GX80/85 and take a small/cheap audio recorder with a mic input to workaround the lack of mic input on those. The GX80/85 has the advantage of USB charging so that's one less thing to take with you, and the video autofocus is much better than the LX100, if that matters. If you are considering the GH1 then add the G6 to list - as Andrew commented in his review years ago, it's a 'GH2 redux' with good 1080p (up to 50/60p) plus a mic input, lightweight, and it's very cheap secondhand (as are 3rd party batteries and USB chargers for them). No IBIS though so you need stabilised lenses or a tripod. As a general versatile 'travel camera' I've taken a GX80 plus 14-140mm Panasonic zoom lens a few times - overall smaller than some 'superzoom' cameras, dual-IS, nice to use, EVF+tilt LCD, good 1080p and 4k video with excellent stabilisation and USB charging - what's not to like?

Apologies if this has already been mentioned, but I was just looking at the Lumix firmware update page and noticed an update for the S1H was added on 10th December (version 1.1) - https://av.jpn.support.panasonic.com/support/global/cs/dsc/download/index4.html# The change log:

I've been using 'SanDisk Extreme PLUS 128 GB microSDXC Memory Card + SD Adapter' in a G80 at 100 Mbps & a G9 at 150 Mbps (4k50p) recently on a long trip. Note that they are only 'V30' video rated - this means they should sustain a minimum of 30 Mbytes/sec write speed (=240 Mbps), so are not suitable for 400 Mbps. See here for SD card video speed ratings - https://www.sdcard.org/consumers/choices/speed_class/index.htmlhttps://www.sdcard.org/consumers/choices/speed_class/index.html

But that upgrading is what pays for the development costs of the new cameras - if people didn't buy them there wouldn't be A7IV/EOS-R/S1/Z6 etc. to drool over... ? (nor would there be loads of cheap second-hand camera bodies available for those on a tight budget).

With Sony, Canon, Nikon and Panasonic all now seriously in the full-frame mirrorless market, there's the inevitable price war going on, so the 'street price' for a new 24 megapixel camera body seems to be settling at the 1500-2000 $/£/€ price level. Panasonic can't be too far out of line with that pricing if they want to sell the S1 in reasonable volumes. Re. them selling off the chip business - I'm not that surprised, they are a small player in it, fabrication plants are very capital intensive things and the chip business can be very cyclical. As Mokara says, it doesn't stop them designing their own chips and having them manufactured by a 'foundry' - that's how most chip companies work anyway (even some major players like Broadcom, Qualcomm, AMD etc. are 'fabless'). I think Panasonic are (sensibly) far more interested in fast growing markets like rechargeable battery production for vehicles than chip making.

Yes, it is (and the G9 is even better). Due I suspect to a mixture of more sophisticated noise filtering and some sensor performance improvement.

Good deal on a Panasonic G9 body plus accessories for £899 at WEX in the UK - https://www.wexphotovideo.com/panasonic-lumix-g9-digital-camera-with-25mm-lens-dmw-bgg9e-battery-grip-and-2x-dmw-blf19-1723562/ ...plus this as well ("free with this product") - https://www.wexphotovideo.com/lowepro-nova-sh-160-aw-ii-black-sandisk-128gb-extreme-pro-170mbsec-uhs-i-sdxc-card-10002965/

IMHO, it's quite decent, but it does suffer from some aliasing e.g. on brickwork/roof tiles etc. perhaps contributed to by it being a bit over-sharpened. On the plus side, I've never noticed any moire. Put it another way, I've owned the G5 & G6 and I don't think the G80 1080p looks much better overall than those two, just a bit different (it looks sharper and punchier but I think you pay for that with some occasional moderate aliasing problems).

Yes, I agree re. the G80/G85 - that's part of the reason I eventually bought a G9 (the other main reason was 4k60p), on which the 1080p quality is in a different league, really.

The street price of the body-only version of the G80 has almost halved in the UK over the last three years (so it's not much more than the G7 now), so I suspect it's almost bottomed-out. I'd watch for cashback offers over December/January, especially if Panasonic do a 'double-cashback' promotion for a short period as they sometimes do (I got that on my G9 back in April during the last 'Easter' period promotion).

The G90/G95 does have unlimited video record time and V-Log L as standard, and it's a bit smaller and lighter than the G9. But I agree - it's too expensive in comparison to the G9 and GH5 (and almost twice the price of the very capable G80/G85). I can't see many people buying one when they could get a G9 for the same price or a GH5 for only £150 more...(based on current UK street prices).

With the new firmware, if you add the DMW-SFU1 V-Log L upgrade it then has support for LUTs when using V-Log L (see latest user guide page F-26/F-27)

See page F-30 in the updated S1 user guide (English version here - https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/dscoi/DC-S1/E_/DC-S1_DVQP1872ZC_full_web_eng.pdf )

Now it's out, the updated user guide for firmware V2.0 lists a few more updates than were mentioned in the news release (European English version is here - https://eww.pavc.panasonic.co.jp/dscoi/DC-G9/EG_EC_EF_EB/DC-G9_DVQP1406ZC_full_eng.pdf - see the 'Firmware Update' section at the end, page F-10 onwards - there are 20 new user guide pages to cover the changes!) In particular, recording to MOV files (with LPCM audio) has been added, including FHD 10-bit 4:2:2 25/30/50/60p at 100 Mbps and 4k 10-bit 4:2:2 24/25/30p at 150 Mbps. The 10bit 4:2:2 4k recording can be in HEVC (72 Mbps MP4 with AAC audio and HLG video) or H264 (150 Mbps MOV with LPCM audio). .

It might also be using temporal filtering (before compression) which can smear motion in some circumstances - remember we are talking about a consumer-grade T6i DSLR here. DesslerLord - have you tried applying softening/motion blur filters during editing to the 4k footage from the modern cameras?

There is a rolling-shutter comparison list here - http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?303559-Measuring-rolling-shutter-put-a-number-on-this-issue!&p=1986288177&viewfull=1#post1986288177

Not the for the 10 minute 4k 50/60p limit. As a G9 owner I'm quite looking forward to the update - and yes, having waited for the G90 to arrive in the market a while back, it wasn't a hard choice to buy a G9 instead, the 4k 50/60 capability and top-notch IBIS is far more important to me than the extended record times of the G90...and I paid less for the G9 than I would have for a G90 ?.

In the UK, Panasonic are now offering £400 cashback on the S1 & S1R family, plus a free Sigma MC-21 Mount Converter (Canon EF to L-Mount) with the body-only versions e.g. an S1 body-only is £1799 after cashback. However it looks like the free DWM-SFU2 firmware upgrade offer has ended... Park Cameras and Wex are also offering 10% off the lenses. https://www.parkcameras.com/lp/panasonic-savings (they are offering a £200 trade-in bonus as well on some models/kits) https://www.wexphotovideo.com/panasonic-lumix-s1-digital-camera-body-1690260/

What lenses do you already own? It sounds like this is daytime use, so I guess low-light isn't really an issue (and you want in-focus background, so you don't need a large aperture lens)? The standard Panasonic 'kit' zooms (the 12-32mm 'pancake', the 12-60mm and various 14-42mm versions) are all fairly 'wide-angle' capable - these are cheap to buy used as they are very common. If 12 mm isn't wide enough then you are getting into more serious wide-angle lenses - some possibilities have already been mentioned. Even then, 7-8 mm as about as wide as you can go without it becoming a high distortion 'fish-eye' lens.

Since you obviously know exactly what's inside a typical Canon camera of this class, could you please explain what extra hardware is associated specifically with providing 24 fps frame rate video capture and encoding (that wouldn't also be used for 25p and 30p)? P.S. I'm a very experienced electronics design engineer, so I can probably understand the technical detail you might provide...

Doesn't [Image Area of Video] (page 238) do the same as [Ex.Tele Conv] for video? - note the [Pixel/Pixel] setting which it implies takes a 1:1 crop from the sensor equal to the selected video resolution, see the picture on page 239. This sounds very like how the Pana micro-4/3 camera [Ex.Tele Conv] works for video. (I don't own the camera, I'm just reading the manual)

I don't think MPEG LA (the licensing company) have ever seriously 'gone after' open-source/freeware codec producers - what's the point in trying to extract money from people who (as they are giving away just a specific *implementation* of the technology) basically don't have any? Also open-source encourages the take-up of the technology, which will ultimately benefit the patent holders that MPEG LA represent - quite a lot of those FFMPEG encoded files will be played on devices and software that are licensed. It's the sellers of products including that technology who need the license i.e. if I used FFMPEG H264 in a product I was selling, it's me that needs a license from MPEG LA and would have to pay a per-product shipped license fee. In any event, the license fees are not very high, there are some MPEG and HEVC costs here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG_LA (for MPEG-2 it's $2 per unit, for HEVC it's $0.20 per unit). Also there are sometimes 'royalty caps' for big users, so you don't pay more than a fixed amount per year irrespective of volume. (Incidentally, the biggest single contributor of patents to the MPEG-4/H.264 portfolio is Panasonic...)

It only does LPCM audio with 4k50p & 4k60p (MP4) - all other modes are AAC (for MP4) or AC3 (for AVCHD). Apart from product differentiation (especially now that the G9 is significantly cheaper than the GH5), I suspect Panasonic wanted to keep the video choices simple on what is supposed to be a stills-oriented camera, hence no LPCM versus AAC choices, or high-bitrate (50/100 Mbps) FHD. For what I do, I normally use either FHD 50p or 4k50p, so 50 Mbps FHD with LPCM is probably the most attractive extra/hidden option.

That works ? (it seems to need a couple of cycles of handshake and connect button pressing though). Once it's connected, the camera LCD will occasionally say it's not connected to the app, but it carries on working OK i.e. accepting commands from the app. Basically, on the G9 it looks like the 'mov' equivalents of the 'mp4' settings work, so you can have LPCM audio instead of AAC in the files. Also some high bitrate .mov versions of 1080p work e.g. 50 Mbps and 100 Mbps (but 72 Mbps locked up the camera - had to remove the battery...). Tried various 10bit, cinema 4k and anamorphic 4k settings - mostly they are ignored when you send them (or they select an AVCHD mode). In one case it did record a file (and Mediainfo said it was 10 bit 4:2:2 AVC1) but the video was just black. So conclusion so far is that the G9 won't do 10 bit, c4k or a4k.

Yes - that didn't appear to work either - but I haven't 'sanity checked' that with the GX80, so that might be finger-trouble on my part. I'll try it again tonight and post the messages from the browser test.