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  1. Ha! I think I'll just suffer through the smaller formats.
  2. For a medium format discussion, that graphic should orient the 645 frame vertically (portrait) to demonstrate the shared relationship of the "6" dimension. The "6" stands for six centimeters -- the typical usable width of 120/220 roll film. So, 645, 6x6, 6x7, 6x9 respectively have frame sizes of 6cmx4.5cm, 6cmx6cm, 6cmx7cm and 6cmx9cm. All of these frames share the 6cm width of 120/220 film. The 6x6 square frame is the classic TLR and Hasselblad format, and some Bronica SLRs started with 6x6. As I recall 6x4.5 backs/cameras appeared in the early/mid 1970s, and 6x7 and 6x9 cameras a little later in the decade Wow! I really love this focal reducer! I would get one if I could afford it and a FF Sony mirrorless camera and if I could get my Mamiya gear from my ex-sister-in-law.
  3. There are ways to put filters behind the lens. Some rare lenses include filter holders behind/within them. It would be a challenge to suspend a rigid filter behind a lens. Flexible materials such as gel, panty hose are much easier to stick on the back of a lens with an adhesive or double-stick tape. It is probably not such a good idea to put a softening/diffusion filter behind the lens, as doing so could magnify the diffusion effect more than desired. Definitely, keep filters far away from the sensor, as any imperfections or dust on the filter will become conspicuous in the image.
  4. It is my understanding that diffraction from the aperture is a matter of degree, and that the relative amount of diffraction is a direct function of the physical diameter of the aperture. Diffraction always exists, but the ratio of diffracted light to usable light increases as the aperture closes. Given two simple lenses of the same focal length, a particular f-stop on one lens should give the same amount of diffraction as the same f-stop on the other lens. The reason for this is that f-stops are simply a ratio of the focal length over the aperture diameter. So, two 50mm lenses should have identical aperture diameters at any given f-stop -- same aperture diameter, same diffraction. Of course, there are other variables that affect focus, DOF, and focal plane flatness.
  5. Don't know what is the widest MF lens that can fit on these adapters, but focal lengths as wide as 35mm were fairly common on MF, which is similar to having a 22mm lens on FF. This is a excellent point, and diffraction can affect the focus, and, hence, the DOF roll-off. Of course, the greater prevalence of diffraction with small formats is due to the physically smaller apertures of shorter focal length lenses -- not caused by the small sensor/film formats themselves.
  6. tupp

    De-Clicking Lenses

    De-clicking is definitely be beneficial if one shoots documentaries/events that often require the aperture to be ramped up/down during the shot (especially when using an on-camera mic). I have a few vintage Nikkors, but I rarely ramp the aperture while rolling, so I haven't really needed to de-click.
  7. Again, nobody has yet done a conclusive, worthwhile "equivalence" test. I don't mean to sound harsh (nor to hijack this thread), but the pages you linked either lack actual equivalence tests or give dubious, useless results. The first page linked doesn't seem to contain any equivalence test -- it is just an essay titled "Sensor Crop Factors and Equivalence." If there is an actual test of DOF equivalence on that page, please point it out. The second page you linked actually contains a DOF equivalence test that seems to demonstrate that optics for larger sensors yield quite a significant difference in DOF when compared to the DOF of to smaller optic. So, it seems to demonstrate that the equivalence principle fails. I spotted the differences immediately, and I will point to some of the more obvious discrepancies. Here are the two images flashed back-to-back in a gif file: The bottle in the foreground stays sharp in both images, but look at how the sharpness of the bush and car dramatically change (red circle). Look at how the sharpness of the cast shadow and grass change (yellow circle). Look at how the sharpness of the building changes (blue circle). Does the DOF in these two flashing images seem equivalent? It doesn't seem the same to me. Now, I am not very good at making gif images, and I apologize for the rough dithering, but you can further confirm these differences yourself by downloading the two images from the linked site and switching back and forth between them in your favorite image viewer. Actually, anyone should be able to see the difference inside the red circle, merely by viewing the two images on their web site. On the other hand, I have to confess that this test is worthless. In the first place, it appears that the tester failed to eliminate the variable of in-camera sharpening, so it is very possible that one camera sharpened its entire image while the other camera didn't. More importantly, the tester put a lot of air between the foreground and the distant background. Some of the "magic" of larger format optics happens in that air between the FG and BG, but this comparison has no objects nor charts in that air to reveal what is happening to the focus there. This fatal blunder occurs in almost every equivalence test that I see. The third link that you gave is the Brightland Studios test which has been referenced by me and others on this forum in several threads. I am afraid that this is yet another misguided experiment in which the equivalence principle doesn't seem to hold up. The tester made two comparisons using the same camera and zoom lens in both tests. First he compared the equivalence between camera's full sensor read-out and the camera's crop mode: With the front of the subject sharp in both images, the apparent counter top (red circle) in the distant background,changes focus, and does not appear to be equivalent in the two images. Likewise, there is another detail in the distant background (blue circle) lacking equivalence of focus between the two test images. There seems to be other subtle focus discrepancies, that I will mention later. The tester acknowledged that the camera might apply a different degree of image processing/sharpening in full sensor mode than it would in crop mode, which could make the focus/DOF of the two test images seem more similar. So, he made another comparison, in which he shot both images in full sensor mode, but one of the images was shot optically as if it was in crop mode. That "simulated crop mode" photo was then cropped to matching size in post. Thus, in this second comparison, there was optical equivalence along with no difference in image processing/sharpening between the two shots: As you can see, with the difference in in-camera processing eliminated, there are significant areas of non-equivalence. In addition to the counter top changing, the bokeh changes size and softness (red circle), while the front of the subject remains sharp. The Canon logos conspicuously change their focus (blue circles) which happened more subtly in the first comparison, while the top buttons on the camera (yellow circle) do likewise. Part of the tripod head (green circle) also conspicuously goes in and out of focus, and it does so more subtly in the first comparison. So, the equivalence principle certainly seems to fail here, as well. However, there are serious problems with this test. For one thing he used the same zoom lens on all images. Not only does the character of the lens look the same in each photo, but aperture position (virtual/actual) doesn't necessarily change with the zoom's set focal length. So the zoom lens' aperture position probably doesn't match the differing aperture positions found on a prime lenses of the same focal length. This discrepancy could make the DOF appear more uniform than if the test were done with separate prime lenses of different focal lengths. Also, these Brightland Studios tests suffer from the same lack of any objects/charts in the important long stretch between the foreground subject and the distant background, so there is literally "nothing to see here." The fourth and fifth links you provided seem to go to different pages of the same earlier thread concerning the Kipon MF focal reducer. I am not sure what you expect me to find on these forum pages, but I do not see any equivalency tests. By the way, on page two of that very thread, I address the Brightland Studios test in several posts. I am hoping that one day someone will do a proper equivalency test with charts/objects placed at regular intervals extended behind the foreground. Ideally, one camera would use a tiny format (2/3" or S16) while the other camera would be a large format (Gonzalo Ezcurra's Mini Cyclops, the LargeSense back, or a shift/stitch adapter). Of course, a full frame camera with this Kipon focal reducer would be interesting to compare, too.
  8. Agreed. Raw is great to have, but I've never really needed anything more than 10-bit, 4:4:4, flat and at a nice resolution. A lot of the time, even that is overkill.
  9. Though question since I don't agree with your assessment of the advantages of Medium Format. I still shoot film, both medium format and full frame (small picture). And I definitely don't use medium format to get faster films. If anything I use the opposite. When I was shooting medium format, its primary advantages were: less-grain/higher-resolution; nicer DOF/focus roll-off; and increased color depth. The MF benefits of higher resolution and increased color depth don't necessarily apply to digital medium format cameras, but it would be great to inexpensively have a little of the nice DOF/focus roll-off found in medium format cameras. I used large format for the same reasons (less-grain/higher-resolution, nicer DOF/focus roll-off and increased color depth), which are even further increased with 4"x5", 5"x7" and 8"x10." However, large format view cameras offered the added benefit of Scheimpflug capability when shooting table-top work. LF with view cameras also allowed shifting for architectural work.
  10. Huh? I seem to recall a lot of wide angle lenses ranging from 35mm to 45mm lenses for Mamiya and Bronica, back when I was shooting medium format. Heck, there were Schneider 38mm lenses for 4"x5" cameras. I am not so sure about this. The optical look of medium format lenses has always appeared different to me. Nobody has yet done a conclusive "equivalence" test. I don't know about that. This focal reducer essentially converts full frame into a medium format, so by using MF lenses with this Kipon reducer, one gets all the benefits/properties of MF optics. Judging from @Mattias Burling's test shots, this focal reducer is going to produce amazing images/footage.
  11. Huh? Well, it can be somewhat of an art to pour the top surface of a one-piece mold, but below that surface, everything should be perfectly precise. Also (and, again), this piece might not require the precision you think it needs. You can roughen up the surface of your master with a higher grit to give it a matte finish. However, if you seek a "fancy" texture, then a spray coat might be better, or the finish could just be incorporated into the 3D printing if you are using a hi-res machine. I cannot advise you on which printer is better for your purpose. One must consider printing cost vs. finishing time/effort on the master (and final parts) vs. anticipated production quantity. If you design with enough slop, you should be okay, regardless.
  12. Ha! Yes, such "no-budget" scenarios are unheard of here in the states -- especially on Craigslist.
  13. I 2nd this! @Mattias Burling Also, could you do a DOF "equivalence" test between this set-up and your Digi-Bolex with a prime lens? Thanks for showing these photos. They look spectacular!
  14. Those are nice mold mock-ups, but you might be able to get away with a one-piece silicone mold for each part. To do so, you may have to sacrifice some of the side holes and top recesses and make those as separate drilling/machining operations after casting. To ease such drilling, you can include small pilot/alignment indentations in your master. This could be an easier way to go if you are making small quantities. By the way, for finishing/buffing the surfaces of your master, you can use pro nail buffing blocks or use pro nail buffing sticks. The lowest "grit" surface on theses blocks/sticks should buff your plastic master to a nice glossy shine.
  15. You might also mention something in regards to your ability to bring the project in on time and on/under budget.
  16. In addition to the suggestions above, you might consider a used camera: the Digital Bolex; the Sony F3 (w/4:4:4 capability); the Sony FS700 (w/raw recorder); or a KiniMini refurb. Also, I've heard good things about the DJI X5R.
  17. By the way, PC-7 Epoxy might stick to glass glass better than J-B Weld. Here is a photo of an old PC-7 hardware store display with various objects epoxied to a glass soda bottle: I remember these displays and there was no way to remove the glued objects without breaking the glass bottle.
  18. The easiest solution is a cardellini clamp with a magic arm. If the jaws of the cardellini are too big (visible on the bottle), you could use a thin plumbing pipe clamp with a rubber liner around the bottom of the bottle. Use plumber's epoxy on the head of the clamp's bolt to keep it from rotating and attach the magic arm to the exposed threads at the other end of that bolt. You could likewise make a clamp plumbing strap and a long 1/4-20 bolt. Plumber's epoxy would also work here in keeping the bolt fixed so that you could attach a magic arm to the exposed threads. Rubber scraps from an old bike inner tube could be used as a clamp liner. Or, you could just use J-B Weld to glue two, stacked, 1/4-20 nuts directly to the bottle. J-B Weld sticks to glass (seems to hold up to pot smoke and heat, too!) -- not sure if plumbers epoxy sticks to glass as good as J-B Weld. You might have to score (roughen) the surface of the glass to improve the adherence of the J-B Weld. Screw two 1/4-20 nuts onto the end of a 1/4-20 bolt, then use plenty of J-B Weld around the nuts and around the surface of the bottle. When the J-B Weld has hardened, simply unscrew the bolt from the two nuts, and the nuts will be perfectly aligned within the J-B Weld. Screw the 1/4-20 threads of the magic arm into the epoxied nuts.
  19. I am merely stating fact. There is no absolute correlation between dynamic range and bit depth -- they are two completely independent properties. Yes. That is how binary math works. However, that has no bearing on how many bit depth increments are (or should be) mapped to a signal/dynamic range. The number of "steps" mapped within a signal/dynamic range has nothing to do with the scope of that signal/dynamic range -- that is the point. This is a simple concept/fact. There might be an older machine vision camera with those specs, but it is an irrelevant request -- there are plenty of cameras featuring multiple bit depths yet with only one dynamic range. The dynamic range of these cameras doesn't change because the cameras' bit depth changes. Again, bit depth and dynamic range are two completely independent properties. Also, subject/location contrast has nothing to do with a camera's dynamic range. Standards and their calculation have nothing to do with the basic fact that bit depth and signal/dynamic range are totally different properties. Furthermore, dynamic range is so independent of bit depth that many systems (including numerous cameras) have incredible dynamic range with absolutely zero bit depth.
  20. Raw data can be mapped other ways, too. There is no absolute (nor absolutely "ideal") correlation between dynamic range and bit depth. Dynamic range and bit depth are two completely independent properties. A camera with 14 stops of dynamic range can be mapped with a 6 bit depth, and, likewise, a camera with a dynamic range 6 stops can have a 14 bit depth. Furthermore, there are numerous digital cameras that allow one to choose mapping different bit depths within the cameras' fixed dynamic range (or, more accurately, signal range).
  21. Tell them that you have the expertise to fulfill the director's vision and that you have extensive experience in using the language of the camera to tell the story. Of course, you must be able to follow through from such statements, and it certainly helps to have a reel that demonstrates such ability.
  22. Don't know how/if the camera's noise reduction settings affect the raw stills, but the problem doesn't appear in the raw files. By the way, there are raw files with two different noise settings (NR1 and NR6) available for download, and there is no noise reduction smudging in either. The problem is reduced on the jpegs with noise reduction set to "1." If the noise reduction is working in raw mode, I am not seeing any smudging, so perhaps this problem is just limited to jpeg processing. Wonder how the noise reduction in the GH5's 4:2:2 video will compare with that of the jpegs.
  23. You have a nice idea! Instead of high-end 3D printing or CNC machining, consider silicone molding. You can 3D print a rough master and finish it to your liking, and then make copies of it with the silicone mold. With this method, you have to be mindful that the parts need to be designed to release from the mold, and, of course, you might need plenty of ventilation to safely cure molding compounds. I see a potential problem with your orange part releasing from a mold. Also, don't get too precise with the design/engineering -- in most instances, the precision one thinks is needed is not actually required. Designing with "slop" (sloppy engineering tolerance) is generally a good practice, especially with mating parts and with any manufacturing process that might have shrinkage (injection molding, die casting, extrusion, blow molding, etc.). Design with as much slop as possible, and allow for that slop. It can save you a lot of headaches later on. For your enclosure, it might be good to have about 1/32" (0.8mm) of slop... meaning, for instance, that you should probably design the inner mating surfaces of the orange part to be 1/32" (0.8mm) wider than the outward mating surfaces of the yellow part. Hope this helps.
  24. Of course, you could gain over a stop by using a focal reducer or by using the Metabones BMPCC speed booster.
  25. Not all 80A filters are created equal. You might try one from another manufacturer. Same with CTBs and CTOs (lighting color temp correction gels). Also, filters can fade with age. Nevertheless, your corrections on the test are well within almost anyone's tolerances. Good job matching the two images! I don't see a huge problem in your test (yet I do see a slight difference), but If one finds oneself without correction filters and if one is also concerned about slightly noisy channels, one can often overexpose 1/2 stop (depending on the subject/scene). On the other hand, with well-lit sets, I have never encountered noise problems shooting raw with tungsten and only IR cut filters and ETTR.
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