Emanuel

Of course not, I can understand you and this has been 'a new normal' with smartphones massification towards the content published on social media today but... ...why should we professionals or knowledgeable enthusiasts be unable to know how to properly shoot to begin with? I come from film school where we had 2-3 takes per shot and no more than a full hand at best rate(/ratio) to further selection. Do you think when digital arrived people, used to such discipline, left and simply abandoned the norm? Technology exists to improve and bring an increase of our potential skills range. To open them wings and fly, not to kill anything we got already earlier. The same way we sell our house for something bigger, we don't start from scratch or move lower, unless we fail. Don't blame technology but the human being behind, either on lacking something or the whole world around lacking all, if any.

Imperfection doesn't necessarily mean less... EAG :- )

LOL You answered to your own previous first lines. Of course, that completely unscientific joke of mine is anything more than that... Now let's try to go there with less acquisition under the same circumstances/variables then ; ) Roughly gives an idea. Andrew is right anyway, as far as the cinematic properties goes. 100% accurate. There are natural human limits to be reached too. Sweet spots as well. For sure : ) From then on, 'better' is wider and its peaks speak higher, a full step critically ahead and a way much relevant than 'more'. No doubts. Take a look on 14-bit or 12-bit RAW, even lower res, just to have the whole picture how this makes a valid point. But, I and you, alias Django user here, just understand one doesn't exclude the other. That said, to follow all that, as @cameraeye @DWX have also pointed out the post route, we have yet many other applications for. With a plain hand of implications over the production process itself. Daily consequences business-wise on the fact our craft is affected or can proceed. When I mention large format printing is not for nothing. I've already faced a few situations where my wishful thinking fits a hybrid tool offering us 50 fps acquisition at least, and the highest resolution at the same time going along the same shot -- for many different use cases later. This capture device comes closer.

I'm also loving this level of playing from native 8K acquisition : ) I see it as a new whole world indeed, so crossing fingers before checking the next tests to come :- )

No, you're not alone ; ) I don't doubt @herein2020 see the glass half empty for his needs : ) Once they've decided it in a different way :- ) The point is now to find if despite the lack of IBIS, hight cost of f/2.8 native zooms, hybrid switching delay, we can take advantage from 8K/50p RAW on their superior AF and decent stabilization for shaky handheld usage anyway.

Have you watched it that video before with the drummer? Is there any trouble going with that external USB powerbank source?

WOW Many Congrats! I am delighted! Top outcome < 3 I'd love to distribute it... : ) No film festivals? BTW did you close your funding campaign already? I've handled more than one hundred successful crowdfunding campaigns crossing different countries and distinct platforms worldwide so far, you know? :- )

LOL You're funny Marty and right at a certain rate ; ) I've heard they're doing it for overcoming their heating issues along. Well, in the US, R5C costs four grand, I wouldn't pay not even a dime extra for, count on it :- )

EUR 72...? Didn't they pay you to accept it at yours? : D

Without IBIS??! No way, it's useless! LMAO : ) Sorry, I couldn't resist ! ; ) I love you all guys! :- ) Shot on CoModo

That 'visibly' remark up there should be in italic but you all get what I mean : ) I think the fact I'm here wondering on the use of a tripod or not, it's already symptomatic per se... ;- )

@Andrew Reid LOL I thought what distracted you from 8K was the nice subject... : D Slowmo helps anyway, that's for sure! : ) You're right 8K is not forgiving at all, but can help giving room for reframing or large format prints from video footage grabs, as for instance. @MrSMW Yeah, exactly my feelings : ) Reason why I'm wondering on this one now and paying attention to these early tests :- ) On shutter speed, there are these workarounds why if stabilization works, we might be closer of a more hybrid device. On my doubts how they reached their results, they wrote in their article they're using the Sachtler Flowtech75 aktiv MS tripod, hence why. Only for that part the camera is visibly on a tripod?

@PannySVHS So Marty, now you just need to start putting it rigged with such funny & amazing inspiration : )

In any case, handheld approach can fit the job for certain shooting style as it is easily possible to check it out on minute 5:01 there. Gordon Laing's test on 24-105mm f/4 @105mm looks also fairly decent, especially going along the Optical IS only or even coupled to Digital IS, High mode for best results, albeit the crop.

As far as I could understand, not every shots are handheld despite the information there... In any case, it's quite promising to those who only need it for shaky hands and use a gimbal when for camera movement shots: 8K 50p is pretty handy to replace a stills camera too ;- )

True, they drive us crazy with their hammer : ) The only trick is to be outside of their radar for next releases : D Jokes float around ; ) In my approach, if their digital stabilization will be able to give shaking hands a try, coupled to their RF offer now free of IBIS match once there's no IBIS, who knows, maybe can end handy, I keep my hope up :- ) Not for everyone's needs anyway, of course, and that's a completely shame... Without that annoying counterproductive delay between video and stills we might have a perfect hybrid then. That is, if they wouldn't put their 'big eye' as Brazilian people say on their clientele resources, it's a pity, to say the least : (

Well on R5, they don't let you using IS independently going along with their lenses when you turn IBIS off : ) Reason why there are people claiming the R5C is actually an upgrade... LOL :- )

Here's now one of my favorite short pieces ever: Met personally him in the distant year of 1994 when we brought this genius and inspiration of many to Portugal (EAG :- )

For sure, cinema is a combo like every artistic medium, requiring technology, is : ) Let alone the more complex ones... (EAG :- )

Not easy to find this one I didn't remember the details of the title then... (other than the 'perfect yellow' part, until out of curiosity -- not run out of memory anyway, still possible to recover it not exactly along Vimeo, once not available anymore into the director's account) ...when voilá, here's a copy from the good old YT: Just perfect ; ) I vividly recommend... serves who talk artsy but no less the geek inner side of all of us here too! LOL :- )

Why strange? If you won't be able to turn IBIS off, it is known Sony and Canon don't match Olympus/Panasonic offer, mainly seen on wide end : ) I still remember when people were ecstatic when 5D2 popped up with so many caveats along 1080p not so long time ago or maybe am I wrong? ; ) Shooters become spoiled much easily... (EAG :- )

As for instance, have anyone noticed the work of this old good fellow here other than a few of us? Take a look on such well done BTS and tell me then that's nothing new to see there... ; ) LOL https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTXrI3UZLw5e8u66Dv_pnoQ Here's another one:

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That's priceless, kudos pal! :- )

It's natural, Marty, after all, it's a new Canon camera. As you say, there's no even camera yet, so prevails speculation other than the customary paid reviews : ) Have you already check the camera conspiracies react? : D People can have fun anyway still with hilarious stuff and no need to take it much serious, they're just cameras ;- ) That said... let's pay more attention to the footage subforum other than the main one... everyone here! :- )