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thats very nice of you, thank you. the reason i posted these is because just looking at the end result, i wouldn’t know which camera was used for what, and i get paid to be a dp (at least from time to time).
i would consider myself a bit of a hack tbh, but i have some rules/logic that i try to adhere to
- limit the color palette
- avoid white. Walls, clothing, props, etc. Off white fixes the issues with white in clothing and props, but off white walls still feel like theyre white. if you’re stuck with them anyway, try to get the art dept to cover them up or go for a color wash.
- i like trying to use as much hard light as i can get away with
- i try to frame for depth, looking for layers and shapes. If there’s multiple shots being shot per scene, theres a million slight positioning adjustments happening to get optimal looking distances between subject and camera. 
- visual language: per project i ask myself, what kind of lensing is appropriate? Is this a piece that feels more wide, medium, telephoto? What are the exceptions to the language/when am I able to break the rules? 
- when theres a limited budget (in my case almost always), i prefer the budget to go to art, locations and lighting. what’s the point of lomo anamorphics if you’re in a tiny ugly white walled room?
- i like the combo of a strong contrasty lut + slightly softer glass + strong diffusion filter

Agree on all points.
Even at the 24ms readout of the other modes it's as good as the older LUMIX cameras and by no means a major issue for most work. I think RS on the S1H in open gate was at like 29ms. There are always tradeoffs and so far we are not at the point technologically speaking for 6k or 8k resolution for larger sensor readout speeds and that level of dynamic resolution. Nikons are really, really good but lack in DR and have noise. 
Like most people I am seeing that the S1Rii just shows us what the next Videocentric Lumix camera should be like if the Photocentric/Hybrid model is this good for video. 
If you stripped away all the extras and just looked at the basic specs, the S1Rii is a pretty solid upgrade. Yes it took too long and yes it could have been faster but we finally got 4k 60p in FF and people aren't happy. Amazing low light with really, really clean images with ultra fine film like noise/grain, 32 bit float, Anamorphic support, even better IBIS, high res stills. Internal Prores raw and can shoot to SSD. 
"BUT GERALD SAID THE ROLLING SHUTTER IS BAD" 
IT'S DOA."
 
 
 
 

S1RII 4k60p is supersampled, only 4k120p is lineskipped, so for it to have same rolling shutter as lineskipped R5/R5ii 4k60p that is quite impressive. And DR on R5 is really nothing to write about.
I can have more DR in nature profile than R5 with clog3, that one thing I really noticed when I change from S1 to R5 years ago.
Panasonic is really pushing for the DR rather than speed like the competition which used stacked sensor at expense of DR hit.
I hope the next one will be more on speed though, as after using R5 for 4 years I kinda get used to the crappy DR 

People were pretty hysterical about the Lumix S9 when it was first announced. Now it's a relatively popular camera that people have decided is underrated. Even non-Lumix users bought and use it.
If you look beyond the influencer noise and listen to what professionals are saying, they're all praising the S1RII. I know it's easy for them to be drowned out by the dudebros who were flown overseas and then flooded YouTube with videos of them listing the specs excitedly interspersed with shitty JPEGS and slow motion clips they took, but they are out there and have good things to say.
Among other things, Manny says he doesn't have fun using his other cameras (he is a Sony and Canon shooter) but he actually has fun using the S1RII. He wants to put it through its paces more, but after using it on a shoot he has a lot of good things to say. 
Cam Mackey set up a shoot with it and showed how he worked with it in post. 
It sucks that so many people make videos ABOUT cameras, as opposed to making videos WITH the cameras and then giving their opinions on what using them is like.

Slashcam tested the S1RII with 22.8ms in 8K without dynamic boost. Latitude and dynamic range was tested being the same with DRE mode on and off.
S1RII in normal mode comes close to the latitude of the impressive C70 and C300MKII DG sensor, making it best of all Dslms in latitude. 15.6ms readout in full frame 4K/6K 60p btw. Idk how professional testers can get it so wrong. Shills without thrills is what i call this kind of youtube reviews.
 

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They need to watch this on YouTube next time.

From the reviews seen so far there is everything and nothing.
GU tested it in "lab mode" and slaughtered it. He was smart to report the bugs to Pana who fixed them for him via fw updates.
Other youtubers reported problems found by GU but they didn't get the updates and didn't even know they existed. So people who look at their reviews think it all sucks. For example, some say AF is not up to par. If you look at Richard Wong's review the AF is perfect and aligned with Sony. He has fw 1.0. he is the only one who tested extensively on animals and cars and there are some smart features.
Other youtubers have tried it on real projects or real use cases and there is very little criticism and they speak very highly of it.
Moving the camera left and right like crazy and screaming that the RS is terrible or claiming on paper that having only 12 stops without DR is like swearing in church, seems like bullshit to me. The beloved 5DMKII ML had 9 stops of DR and yet everyone was wetting their pants.
In short, lab is one thing and reality is another.
BTW the same youtubers who now blast the S1RII are the ones who would hate an S1R that we like a lot.

If you're talking about Gerald's review, he said "An hour and 18 minutes." (about 18:30 in the video)

Never mind no; grip, IBIS, second card slots, 4k 60p and all that, this one doesn't even allow for any kind of video or photo capture but simply has a voice recording device so you can describe the scene or quote poetry.
 

https://www.l-rumors.com/exclusive-first-specs-of-the-new-lumix-s1rii/
 
Rumored spec from the comment section
44mp "high speed" sensor
Can do 40fps (with electronic shutter)
Can do 1.5 secs precapture RAW
Open gate
Price around $3500
 
 
8K opengate? I wonder will they have 8k60p as well?
 

Yeah, give us the EVA2 in L mount and all the updated spec!

It looks like 8.1K is real, as at the end of this video Zach says something along the lines of "by the way, all the talking head footage in this video was filmed in 8.1K... but you'll find out more about that next week."
I really don't have a need for 8K, so that really doesn't excite me. Most of us aren't even really using 4K to it's max with our small TVs and computer screens! But I know others will be pumped.

Yeah, give us the EVA2 in L mount and all the updated spec!

https://www.l-rumors.com/exclusive-first-specs-of-the-new-lumix-s1rii/
 
Rumored spec from the comment section
44mp "high speed" sensor
Can do 40fps (with electronic shutter)
Can do 1.5 secs precapture RAW
Open gate
Price around $3500
 
 
8K opengate? I wonder will they have 8k60p as well?
 

Since we are likely less than 10 days away from the announcement, I thought I would start a separate thread. Below are the leaked details so far.
 
24MP CMOS (Canon Made)
1.4″ 3:2 Sensor
DIGIC X Series
DPAF
Multi-Function Shoe
Approximately 16-50mm (35mm Equivalent)
3″ LCD (1 Million Pixels)
Articulating Screen
1.4x Photo Crop (17mp 70mm equiv)
4K Video (Slight crop for aspect ratio)
4K 60P / 1080 120P (Unconfirmed)
Vertical Video Capable
New Streaming Features (No detailed information)
RAW, C-RAW, Dual Pixel RAW
H.265 / HEVC
C-Log 3 / HDR PQ
A full line of accessories
February/March 2025
Price: $899 USD

https://www.l-rumors.com/surprise-lumix-s1rii-will-not-use-the-same-leica-sl3-sensor/
 
Will they use that new 45MP sensor?!

China definitely can't. Not without ASML. (and arguably TSMC as well, but China might just try to conquer TSMC by military force?! Hopefully not. Although China can more easily catch up and replace TSMC, would be a massive project that would very optimistically be multi-year long, and China is currently trying to do this. In comparison vs the multi decade project that replacing ASML might require)
 
I've got an undergrad degree in electronics, in particular optoelectronics, a strength my uni is world class at, which is especially very relevant to this situation. Papers I took such as Physics333 (which covers topics about lasers such as: the electron oscillator model, rate equation model, Einstein coefficients, Fabry Perot etalons and resonators, optimum output coupling, reflection at a dielectric surface, waveguide theory, thin films, matrix techniques for optical elements, Gaussian beams and applications etc), those don't normally get taught at the third year level at most normal universities
So while I'm a long long long waaaay off what these expert engineers in chip production would know (many who have PhDs), I do at least know enough to have a rough grip on and a glimpse into how ridiculously over the top complex the process! That it's crazy hard wall for China to scale if they wish to catch up. 
 

Posting in this thread bcuz I doubt it's been mentioned before and I honestly misjudged the usefulness of this new feature. Canon added the teleconverter feature to the R5C last year and while initial reviews/tests concluded that the feature was really only good to 1.5x mag with anything past that (2x, 2.5x, 3x) being deemed not as good - it has been flagged by several R5C users that those conclusions were not accurate. In fact (and I can confirm with my own tests) that the R5C's TC feature produces very good results across the entire magnification range. What matters is that you are exposing properly but also maaybe giving it a bit more light than usual. 
So now my trusty Canon 17-55mm f/2.8 EF-S has new life with a focal range of 27mm - 264mm with the 3x footage being about as great as the widest end.
Anyways, just one more reason this cam continues to be a great hybrid option. 

Lumix s5ii/S5iiX got new firmware, basically all the features on S9 is on S5ii/X now except pdaf at 1080p60

This guy should be banned from doing business

I would get their 28mm f4.5 body cap lens for sure, perfect match to S9!

Just finished a 5 day indian wedding shoot, so far the only time it overheated was when I forgot to turn the external fan on. (Shooting 4k25p all day, and it's summer here atm)
I also did 1 and half hour interview in 3.8k opengate, that was without the fan but indoor, but towards the end I do see the overheating icon popping up.
 

Just finished a 5 day indian wedding shoot, so far the only time it overheated was when I forgot to turn the external fan on. (Shooting 4k25p all day, and it's summer here atm)
I also did 1 and half hour interview in 3.8k opengate, that was without the fan but indoor, but towards the end I do see the overheating icon popping up.
 

Almost 5 years having my trusty S1 as my workhorse camera (I work on fashion films, weddings and small commercials) and the S5ii/X series never felt like a true upgrade. No 4K 120, same crops, same codecs. And the absence of phase detect in full frame 1080/50p (which I use vastly on weddings and events).
GH7 looks great for my needs but I have already built a nice lens set of Sigma 16-28, 28-70 and 35 1.4 and the transition to equivalent MFT lenses would be too costly. I love MFT and I still have my beloved G80 (which I use as a tripod camera for low budget gigs as well as a travel camera) with 25mm 1.7 and 14-42 but I wouldn’t use those lenses for serious professional work.
However, the S9 is a thing of its own with its form factor/capability ratio. As long as Panasonic doesn’t soon release the S1II/H (which will probably be above 3K) I’m keeping an eye on it as a 2nd/gimbal unit. There is no phase detect issue at 1080p and my back will thank me after long hours of shooting due to the lightweight body compared to the S1 since 90% of my work is handheld. It can also be the perfect street/travel camera replacing my G80.
I think I’ll wait a little bit for any news from Panny but I am close to pulling the trigger 🙂