Andrew Reid

​Actually it wouldn't be something really! We already have that for very cheap. And 1080p H.264 is today's standard definition.

What kind of settings might be different? Quality differences - single pass encoding rather than 2 pass?

You can download the firmware update here http://gopro.com/news/new-features-now-available-for-your-hero4-camera?utm_source=exacttarget&utm_medium=email&Utm_campaign=20150203_pr_HERO4UpdateNowAvailable_PR Media Contacts&utm_term=read_more The 240fps is very soft though, looks more like upscaled SD than 720p. Not tried the 2.7K 60p yet... over to you...

Canon's next step on the entry level Rebel / XXXD series is about to arrive and it will be interesting to see the video specs now Panasonic are doing sub-$1000 entry level 4K with the LX100 and FZ1000. This time Canon are releasing two models - the 750D and a 760D, with the difference seeming to be the addition of a 70D-like top LCD panel on the 760D. Read the full article

So in theory it should be the same speed as IFFMPEG.

​At 128GB per 6 minutes that's some HDD investment you're going to make over a years worth of heavy shooting, day in day out. It has nothing to do with not applying a 'DSLR workflow', though that is a lot quicker and simpler than handling 128GB per 6 minutes of footage. Also, 4K Cinema DNG does not playback smoothly on even a very high spec Mac. So you have to create the proxies, then grade via roundtrip, and it's SLOW.

1. ​Because you get a free 1D X, for stills. 2. Because of stealth factor, nobody notices you 3. The 1.3x crop sensor is larger 4. The native EF mount is better than using an adapter 5. It's much smaller and lighter 6. It's less complicated, allowing you to direct the shoot rather than button press on the shoot 7. The image is better, I personally feel 8. The menus are faster and more direct 9. Ergonomic controls are more direct and less fiddly 10. Because it's cheaper used, mine cost £5k. The FS7 would have cost me at least £2k more. 11. I prefer Canon LOG to S-LOG, it is easier to grade. Lighter LOG. 12. I prefer the colour I get from Canon's cameras 13. It shoots to relatively cheap compact flash cards and they're common 14. Better low light (cleaner at 3200,6400 and 12,800) 15. OK yes it does have some disadvantages (rolling shutter, large file sizes, no peaking) but for me they are relatively unproblematic. Would love slow-mo though!

Because you are logged in via facebook perhaps. Try registering a new EOSHD Forum account.

Also the 1D C has been shot in LOG at ISO 200 by the looks of the banding, and not handled right in post - possibly edited natively from the MJPEG in Premiere which introduces even more banding.

The video specs are wrong on the HK leak. 1920 x 720 1280 x 1080 Vertical res should be the other way round. It's a typo

This isn't a camera shootout. It's a grading shootout. It's very difficult to compare absolute performance with such a huge variable in the mix.

Kind of a vital piece of info missing from your post Steve. What's the app!?

$7999 is now live at B&H. Might justify a free holiday to New York for some! http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/855962-REG/Canon_EOS_1D_C_EOS_1D_C_4K_Cinema.html/BI/6943/KBID/7492

Sounds made up to me!

Not good! Hopefully Metabones will respond.

The sensor isn't the problem, the one in the E-M1 for example is almost identical to the GH4 and made by Panasonic. It does 4K. Just a matter of enabling it in their firmware.

Strange, maybe the full price cut hasn't yet been applied.

Here's the UK price cut on the 1D C - http://cvp.com/index.php?t=product/canon_eos_1d_c Down to £7.2K + VAT The used ones are still a far better deal.

Exactly!! Selling my E-M1. Wish Olympus would release both their flagships at once, to save me the eBay fees time and time again How long will I be an E-M5 II owner before I am an E-M1 II 4K owner!? Looking forward to it though, at least it is interesting, unlike a Canon!

More detailed specs for the E-M5 II have come out ahead of it's launch on Thursday 5th February. The video mode is much improved, although it doesn't shoot 4K. Read the full article

​Incomparible. DR gamma is barely any flatter than Rec 709! I find it gives me a slightly improved image with contrast dialled down and master pedestal up a bit compared to the old NX1 firmware and standard pic profile. But it's not LOG.

​It's poor to be honest in 50/60p, both are. A7S and 1D C both soft 1080/60p with moire. To do proper 60p you really need a small sensor (GH4) or a full pixel readout, and doing a full pixel readout at high frame rates from a massive full frame sensor in a tiny body on a small battery, with no fan and limited cooling / heat sink is currently not possible with the technology. That's why FS7 is so nice for slow mo, but of course it's much larger and needs a bigger battery.

​Yes it really is this good. Once you get your head around the ridiculous pricing and ridiculous reluctance of Canon to make simple firmware changes (keeping histo on during a shot as gingercat mentioned is perfect example), you will realise what a good deal it is at the current used prices. Nothing else touches that image internally in such a small camera. The larger cinema cameras have other drawbacks, let alone price. Long boot times, heavy bodies, fans, expensive media, external recorders, v-lock batteries, no thanks. C500 needs an external recorder just to get on par with the 1D C! If Canon release anything this year it HAS to be an internal 4K replacement for the C500 at NAB, it is practically guaranteed but it won't be £5k like my 1D C. The NX1 is perhaps the closest, so that remains a very good deal. The A7S internal 1080p is great but I need 4K internal, better build quality and a native EF mount. I admit I was too harsh on the 1D C then it came out, if there's a bias then it's quite a natural one - I was angry at Canon for putting such a nice image out of reach. This is what the 5D line should have been headed towards all along but they got way too greedy and wrapped up in savagely high mark-up. Unlike Panasonic. Unlike Sony, Unlike Samsung. I still think their business will suffer if this kind of behaviour continues.

​It's a bit more than a third my friend!! Canon have two main divisions, office and imaging. They also do semiconductors and lithography machines. But the camera sales are the largest market by volume by far. Even as late as last year, 9 million Canon compact cameras were sold. This has now slowed to 7 mil. Canon's interchangeable lens camera sales have also slowed, due to so few exciting new models being released. It's particularly interesting that they have slowed in Q4 2014 despite the 7D Mark II being released in that quarter and the key Christmas sales period. Most recent report is here: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/29/us-canon-results-idUSKBN0L10FG20150129?type=companyNews

They can't sell to consumers for $15,000!