Andrew Reid

Well, considering how the video quality is very much a known quantity would it be worth it? Just look up any video orientated review of the following from the past 5 years: 60D 70D 600D T2i, etc. EOS M3 (that one might actually even be a bit better?!) The 80D is 1300 euros here, no way am I spending that much to rehash the same old negative review so many others have done about Canon's APS-C video performance. For 1799 I can get a Canon XC10, much more interesting.

It's no better than the A6300's AF with Sony lenses.

This is a common misconception among stupid people and the facts are very different. I have seen market research at meetings with Sony and Panasonic, also information on how the cameras are marketed. You have not. Canon's market and marketing is not that different. By the same token you can also argue an iPhone is for stills. Yet a lot of iPhone owners use those for casual video shooting. The 80D is quite an expensive consumer camera - more prosumer and hobbyist, middle of the pyramid, than something a super-casual consumer would use. It's in exactly the market where video usage peaks. In fact I cannot believe you are still bothering to put across this kind of argument in 2016, when every DSLR press release mentions video (and a significant proportion of the text too, sometimes as much as 50-50), a GH4 sells like hot cakes and the manufacturers are spending vast amounts of R&D putting 4K into stills cameras.

That they haven't got up to the GH2's level yet after 5 years is where the comparison is. GH2's image is still very detailed 1080p and very nice.

Just had a brief time with the boxed up retail model. I say brief. I sent it back almost straight away. I might upload the clips to the original footage thread, but there's hardly any point. You know the score with these cameras. Soft, aliasing ridden, huge moire problems, not even 1080p resolution. Very sad - they have a brand new sensor in this thing and had the chance to step at least the 1080p up to 7D Mark II levels, or even in line with the rest of the market, or the Nikon D5500, much cheaper. This is a 1300 euro camera!

Nice colour, but I especially enjoyed the audio. What mic were you using when not using the lavs? If it's the built in stereo mic of the XC10 then I'll be blown away...

I hear the D5 may have the 3 min limit for 4K recording removed before release. But even then I question why you would not instead get a 1D X Mark II at that price, given the Dual Pixel AF and a lens mount which takes more than just one or two kinds of lenses. The D500 would have been perfect if they had avoided the huge crop... NX500 style crop for $2k? No thanks.

Nah, dynamic range stays the same. Only thing that changes is rolling shutter. Hardly an issue for timelapse! X Pro2 has a silent shutter, maybe worth a look.

@gatopardo Martians.

@Ebrahim Saadawi it just needs someone to design a smart-grip for it via the COM port now... dials and buttons for aperture, shutter, etc. plus positionable record button and custom buttons. No way to attach it to the side though unless you use a cage. Blackmagic put just one thread on top of the camera, but there's 3 under the camera so it doesn't twist on the base of a cage.

There's an easy way to test whether it is compression / video related or a limitation of 8bit, find a blue sky and shoot an H.264 4K clip of it and an 8bit JPEG. Bet the 8bit JPEG is ok. I think it's more a compression or 6K sensor output to 4K scaling issue.

Indeed ISO in raw is done in Resolve, there is a control for ISO in the Camera DNG box in version 12 now However for ProRes shooting of course it would be useful to have an ISO button.... no... a dial, it should be on there but isn't. I miss the BMCC's cute touch screen. The Micro is pretty darn cute in itself though. Here's my rig... Kept it simple and small: Wooden Camera top handle Blackmagic View Assist via HDMI Metabones Speed Booster (BMPCC) version for 1.74 crop, almost Super 35mm Tamron 24-70mm F2.8 VC Heliopan vari-ND with hard stops Articulated hinge mounts the screen (I hate the spidery arms) - this part was a cheap generic part from eBay Base is my quick release plate!! It needed something to stand on even when not on a tripod because the camera body is so insignificant!

Oddly enough I am using the Sigma Quattro DP3 for 5K timelapse. Actual resolution is closer to 8K and it has a built in intervalometer. Writing a blog on it now.

If it's just timelapse you're after at 4096 x 2160, the D5 is probably overkill. The D750 would serve you just as well and the 6K (24 megapixel) images will go nicely to 4K in post. You would however need to frame in 16:9 and then crop to the very slightly narrower 1.85:1 aspect ratio. Just a very tiny slice off the top and bottom of the image required. The D5's 4K looks to be limited to just 3 minutes and 3840 x 2160 so pretty useless for timelapse. I'm not sure it has a built in intervalometer like the prosumer Nikons? The Canon 1D C has very similar colorimetry to the Nikons and shoots 4096 x 2160 at 24p or 25p. Do you need 30p at all? If not, then get the 1D C and simply fit your Nikon glass to it via an adapter. If all this seems like too much of a workaround then the D5 would of course be very good in low light and fit the bill for timelapse but as it isn't out yet nor in my hands, I can't really be too sure about its suitability. PS - the best resolution stills camera in the Nikon line is actually the D810 at 36MP or close to 8K... D5 is 20MP to keep the high ISOs sweet.

Didn't seem slower then I tried it at BVE in London, was quite impressed with how robust it was too. DPAF doesn't cover the whole frame, that's true. But every pixel is a phase detect point. On the A6300 the pixels are normal with a few hundred of them swapped out for focus pixels. I suspect DPAF doesn't go to the edge of the frame because of light ray angles or lens vignetting which would reduce the performance of it, or make it more expensive, or some technical issue with the design of micro lenses. I'm guessing.

Good post Day, I agree with every word

Maybe someone will make a control unit for it that attaches to the COM port!

Cool. Glad you're enjoying it. Agree on all points aside from the menu system... Although the menus are very nicely laid out, the physical controls on this camera are completely laughable. Better have a lens with an aperture ring on it and hope you don't ever need to change ISO or shutter speed in a hurry!

My rig is looking similar to this but just the monitor and a top handle. However I like your hotshoe rail and F&V ball head... where you get them from, any links to the actual items so I can order? PS - 1.74x crop with the BMPCC Speed Booster... nice. Canon APS-C is 1.6x crop so not far off fully using the image circle of EF-S lenses. Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 very nice on it. 35mm F2.0 IS also. SLR Magic 10mm T2.1 best one without Speed Booster I have used and the Panasonic Leica 15mm F1.7 best ultra small option.

I accidentally hit Q instead of W on a keyboard sometimes. Doesn't mean to say we should redesign keyboards. Sony can be truly idiotic sometimes.

No, but come on... The C100 is such a dull little work camera. An office tool in comparison to something like a sports car. I'm not saying it's a bad camera... It's just that is designed to be a work tool, by a company that also makes photocopiers

If it is the battery door, someone try this and see if it solves the problem - http://www.amazon.com/Neewer-Professional-Vertical-Infrared-Batteries/dp/B014QVDFJ6

If something as trivial as that solves the overheating problem why didn't Sony solve it in the design? I'm skeptical!

Celebrity endorsement as a substitute for knowledge. I worry for humanity sometimes.

A load of fuss over nothing. Any image where the shadows have been brought up in the raw files to the extent the are doing in the DPReview tests will look rubbish on every single camera out there apart from perhaps the Pentax 645Z with 50MP Sony CMOS. They are not measuring the USABLE dynamic range and by usable, I mean, good looking images.