Andrew Reid

Seems you have just contributed to the 30% misinformation. Oops. The XC10 article was my first impression of the announcement (paper specs) from almost a year ago. I have bought one recently for a specific purpose, you'll see soon on the blog. Here's a factoid for you....80D video quality ranks below almost everything else on the market, but hey... AF.

Douglas is All Chin and no mouth.

Going to be either a crop or pixel binned from that 100MP sensor, so it's not going to go challenging RED for image quality any time soon. Besides they have by far the better raw codec and 8K raw coming soon as well.

It's always a balance between convenience and image quality. I'd love every camera to have the great colour science, AF and ergonomic simplicity of a Canon. However I'd love every affordable Canon camera to have decent image quality compared to the 4K competition, something they lack. We'll get there one day.

Maybe I have been living in Germany far too long.

Props to you and JG Harding for recognising a dark horse of a camera.

Also I just bought an XC10!

@CMB the T2i was around for a long time and it had its day, a lot of great stuff shot on it, in the same way there were great Pixar animations developed on very old 90's workstations. This does not excuse Canon in any way. If Apple for example had neglected the quality of their stills on iPhones since 2009 as Canon have done with video on their APS-C DSLRs, it would be seen as totally strange behaviour, really bizarre and unacceptable to all iPhone users interested in photography. The only reason content producers and YouTuber's still care about the 80D is that a lot of people don't care about perfection or the details. They just want to grab a brand they trust and make content as quickly and as easily as possible with the lenses they already have. The other companies have put in a less than solid showing to be honest, in fighting back against Canon and Nikon. Flakey and disjointed. Panasonic only have the GH line, which doesn't have a broad appeal to the masses due to the lenses being massively overpriced, complexity of the spec, odd sensor crop vs the rest of the market and less than stella ISO 1600-6400 performance indoors. Meanwhile Sony have too many models, very confusing, reliability issues on top of that like overheating, over complex specifications and menus, poor usability and again incredibly expensive lenses. Canon have had it easy. The people who will buy a 80D probably see 4K as slowing them down in the edit, when a lot of the material is quite time critical. I can't see them lusting after an A7S II any time soon.

eBay is your friend.

Wow that seems to make a difference with the Video Mic Pro, I've never had good results with it on a DSLR. NX1 preamps especially seem pretty poor. Nice job sir.

Talking about Special Purposes.... how about being the only $1000 camera with Super 35mm 4K recording, 13 stop dynamic range with LOG, small file sizes, built in EVF, 120fps in full HD and the best autofocus system under the $6000 1D X Mark II pro DSLR.

Well the A7S colour weaknesses are sadly all too clear in that clip. Noisy, compressed, inaccurate, thin and dreadful on the Rec.709 conversion, only the custom LUT (with a lot of expertise efforts) can save it even after that dodgy white balance, mixed light, exposure all remain difficulties faced by Sony users. Sony need to make it EASY to get Canon or Nikon like colour from their cameras. They should really trash their entire picture profiles line-up and start again.

I should get paid for this babysitting work!

No framing differences if you set stills to 16:9 and shoot raw, then you can claim back the 3:2 in Photoshop.

Because I shot with it myself!!

The 1D X II of course it doesn't look awful, but it does have an awful codec. It should have had the XF 300Mbit/s 4K codec of the XC10 but the processors aren't fast enough and there's no room for an XC10 style exhaust vent & fan due to the weather sealing.

PP6 is 1.5 or 2-stop to the right (over exposed on the meter). The rest you should aim for a nice even spread in the histogram or 0 on the meter. The reason I recommend shooting in M mode rather than Movie mode is the shutter is not disabled for stills, you can quickly reel one off, very useful, also the AF is much quicker for a quick shot setup, furthermore the manual focus assist quality gets a very useful and significant bump up so that it is useable, whereas the one in movie mode is a dreadful fuzzy mess. If the exposure is shifting between M mode live view and recording, are you describing a slight gamma shift or might it be another setting which is interfering? Check that movie exposure in the main menu is also set to M. Also if you're relying on the meter for very precise exposure, it's not a good idea. It's not very useful for precise adjustments. It's better to check the histogram instead.

It's not been out very long, but it's maybe that the Pocket was a new concept and very much aimed at us, whereas the Micro is more aimed at pros who need a POV camera in a fridge. I am as confused as you are about Blackmagic's move away from the enthusiast market.

I've had the Auto ND confirmed to me. The extent of the raw capabilities is new.... wow 4K 60p and 240fps 1080p very nice. A direct tap on the same sensor as the FS7, bypassing the lesser processor inside the FS5. Very generous of Sony but I'd expect the cost to be similar to the price difference between the FS5 and FS7... so not exactly a cheap firmware update? Anyway let's wait and see.

When looking at the leaf and lime test, it's important to realise how the reach of the lens compensates for the lack of resolving power of the camera. Wider angles and infinity focus shots are an appropriate test of resolution. Lime trees on end of a 50mm or 85mm with shallow DOF? Not so much. As for colour it is true Canon have this better sorted than Sony but there's no way that is saving the 80D as a filmic choice. The shot Ben posted demonstrating A6300 colour has hardly any colour in it, it's a horribly overcast grey day, grey street, grey building and white van!! Come on people, common sense should start prevailing. There are no convincing tests or samples so far that show the strengths and weaknesses or either camera. When Canon get the video image right, they really do get it right. The 80D is not one of those cameras. The 1D C, C100 II, C300 II, XC10 all have a beautiful look to their images. It's no coincidence they are all Cinema EOS cameras. Canon's strategy quite clear I think!

They only have hamsters working on the DSLR video side, they transferred the more intelligent bunny rabbits to the Cinema EOS department. Sony only have guineapigs.... Us!

Chris says in this video the 80D is better. I had to squint very hard to see it. It's a bit like squinting at the bottom of a football league table. I'd rather look at the top. Canon are ripping you off guys... Panasonic G7 walks all over it for video and it's less than half the price.

1300 euros is low priced video market? Maybe compared to the professional market. It's not low priced for the customers the 80D is aimed at though. I wanted to use Dual Pixel AF... They have ruined it.

It always amazes me how far people are willing to go to defend Canon's performance. And yes I am sure it will be a hit with YouTubers for selfies Not really what EOSHD is about though...

Great news about the crop mode live view improvements. Before it was slow-fps pixilated black and white to get the accurate framing.