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I forgot the Sigma 28-105mm f2.8… Combine that with the S1RII in hybrid zoom mode and there are two very useable crops the first being 147mm which if memory serves is around 18mp the second being 210mm at around 12mp so both very useable for stills use. The Sigma 28-70mm f2.8 also makes for a very compact lens and with the same crop factor, 98mm and 140mm. Shoot Jpeg + raw, the crop only applies to the Jpeg…I think but with video, it’s a proper punched in crop. 4k only though. Doesn’t work in 6k or 8k modes. As things currently stand…but anything could happen within the next 6 months 😉 my plan is to pick up the 28-105 as an outdoor lens to complement the 28-70 as my indoor lens (mainly stills but some hybrid use each) and the new LUMIX 24-60mm f2.8 purely for video on my other S1RII. That latter lens will be more like a 29-73 with the combo of settings I am using (5.9k 50p + standard electronic IBIS). Perfect focal range for my run & gun needs 👌

I'm a huge outlier here, since my lenses are exclusively either manual cinema lenses, or lightweight travel lenses. For the former, I still pick EF mount. For the latter, I'm not sure anyone makes anything quite like the 18-40. I love it.

Agree ^ mostly... The only area really lacking for me is the space between 100-200mm where there's a bit of a gap. Between Sigma & Panasonic themselves, they have it covered with primes ie, for most peoples needs, most of the time, those f1.8's. Sigma offer their f2's which have a bit more 'character'. Sigma also do the f1.2/1.4's and Leica do their stupidly priced offerings. The zooms are all very good. In fact I can't really think of a bad L Mount lens other than that stoopid f8 thing they launched with the S9. The only thing missing for me is a either a longer sibling to the Sigma 28-45mm f1.8 (such as a 45-90mm f1.8) and/or a rival to the Sony 50-150mm f2. A 50-135mm f1.8 with internal zoom would be appreciated and if Sony can do the slightly longer 50-150 with f2, then Sigma could probably pull off an f1.8. I know the Samyang 35-150mm exists but it's not got the greatest rep and has been hit with the ugly stick. Or is the ugly stick. As things stand, I am probably going to trade my 35mm and 50mm for the Sigma 28-45mm f1.8 because although it's obviously bigger and heavier than either, it doesn't require a choice of lens but a twist of the wrist and optically is just as good based on my experience. I don't really like the 18mm though. It has a great rep but for me it's too wide. I don't really like anything wider than 28 but it has its uses in certain situations, so I need to keep it. It's just above 50 I have the issue... I I don't want or need a 70-200 but something within that 50-150 would be so much better (as long as it's not the Samyang and preferably does not extend when zooming) but I'd settle for even 90mm as above.

It's not that bad in L-mount. We now have a small 40mm F/2 from TTartisan, but it could be better. Most of the lenses from Panasonic make a lot of sense- a full set of clinical 18, 24, 35, 50, 85, 100mm lenses at f/1.8 (except for the 100mm). They're the same size, rendering, in-camera corrections, usage and everything you'd expect. No other camera maker has that. The zooms are also great. Sure, no Tamron, but should that be the deal-breaker? Personally, I'm no longer going for "clinical and sharp". Give me anything with character- that's what I want; set yourself apart a little. Clinical = boring in my book. Still, I have many of the primes, but I almost always take out the vintage stuff when shooting for myself (not a pro). Also, mark my words, L mount will win in the end with lens selection. What lenses are you after?