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It looks pretty good because unfortunately CineD has not tested the 5,8K raw downsampled to 4K yet, I wonder if there is a possibility of backed-in NR inside of the Prores Raw files.

Alright, drama aside for a sec! You've likely already stumbled upon this thanks to our friend Google 😜 but this guy is obsessed with anamorphic lenses and, besides having dedicated videos, he uses them pretty much everywhere. https://www.youtube.com/@cammackey

Then it’s a bit misguided because it creates negative marketing chatter that your products are overpriced and cause probably more loss than gain of new customers. Just price it properly in the first place and earn some, rather than lose respect.

Panasonic's launch pricing is for suckers. Just like the S9 and all the Lumix's that came before it, these will sell for 1/3 less some months later.

Where are some real AF tests, except the YouTuber's head moving in and out of the frame?

As someone who exclusively buys used, I agree with you-- however, features in new products are almost never objectively worth the premium, in any product category. Cameras, cars, graphics cards, clothes, music albums, and even digital video games on steam, if enjoyment is the value metric.

I don't think Panasonic intends for the introductory price to stay for long. Right now it's for the early adopters - eg S1 owners who must have the successor at all costs. I am an S1 owner but I am not looking to upgrade, not in the next couple of years. Once the initial rush clears there will be a steep drop in price (in the form of rebates). By Thanksgiving I expect it will be around $2600 or less.

Check out the GX9 prices

I've been seeing on YouTube that some of the influencers have been going on about how great the old/small Panasonics were. If you want to see something really bonkers, look at current GM1 pricing - a lot of them going for about $500 in a kit with the 12-32. Since those went so crazy, now I'm seeing some from adjacent influencers saying "Hey, everybody! The GF* series is also really great and small and btw, some shoot 4K" so I'm not surprised they're going up now too.

I got lucky and got my s1 + vlog upgrade for 1500 one year after introduction. Depreciation is nice for new entry into the system. But for owner selling their gear its not great i also think its a bad omen that stuff depreciates so fast. On the other hand, old MFT stuff on the second hand market is wild now. I saw an GF3, for 300 including lens. 300 was the price I paid at that time for a new one, lens included! even wilder a GF1 for 350😆 its like the dutch proberb "wat de gek ervoor geeft" (what a fool will pay for [it])

It's relevant to the pricing strategy Panasonic is using, which is what Andrew and others are critiquing and I was responding to. Of course from an end-user POV you would want to compare against relevant used or discounted-new offerings. I waited almost two years for the first S1 to depreciate enough that I could afford it- got a minty one with the 24-105 for $2200.

You can compare launch prices, but thats not really relevant. What matters is what you can currently can get. And currently the S5II is 1600 new, 1350 used. Nikon Z6 III is 2200 new, the A7 IV is 2.349 new, 1950 used.The R6 II is 2400 new,2000 used. I dont know all the differences between these camera's, but i think they are solid camera's. Nothing that the S1II offers makes be go "mmm those features are worth the €1000 price premium"

You asked an easily-googled question and used phrases like "I don't pay much attention to new releases and am probably fairly behind but are there full-frame anamorphic lens options on the market just yet?" That phrase basically screams "do my research for me," as does the follow mention of the Blazar Mantis, a 1.33x anamorphic lens with an oval aperture and no autofocus, but in the context of "I thought I heard of..." which, again, is a thing that is easily resolved by yourself with a 10 second google search for "Mantis Anamorphic." As to the rest, lighten up, Francis. The point of most forums isn't for people to do simple google searches for you, but (hopefully) to have more interesting discussions. Asking things like "Does anybody have personal experience with the new Mantis anamorphics" or "Looking for experiences about the Blazar Apex autofocus anamorphic" might actually yield something interesting.

You think I honestly haven't looked? What the literal fuck is the point of this forum if i'm going to be told to "Google It" when i ask a legit question. I've been a member of this forum for nearly 10 years. I'm keenly aware that many people here do in fact have insider knowledge, and you had literally no reason to respond to me if you didn't have anything to add. I would have vastly preferred you just said "i don't think so" and moved on. Do me a favor, and move on. Don't respond again to this thread, you're not helping anyone including yourself. You must have better things to do right?

The only thing that makes this camera not of interest to me is the price tag. It actually seems like a quality release, but that's just not a competitive price for me at least. My first thought would be to upgrade from the S5II X to the S1II, and then upgrading my two S5s to S5IIs. But It'd make more sense to keep the S5II X and then upgrade the two S5s to the S5II for less than what a S1II would cost me. Still, it's a decent camera. I hope it does well.

To add to this, another thing you can do is shift the image up giving more room on the bottom for subtitles. Another thing you can do is put the black bar at the top for surtitles.

Ah, I missed that you said autofocus. Updated: https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=1.33x+anamorphic+autofocus+full+frame In short, yes, some exist, and no, nobody here would have any insight as to the product plans for anamorphic lens manufacturers next year.

Call it ARRIBA, impossible to sound less Germany. Lawsuit avoided. 😃

Are you actually gonna produce it? I'm ready to watch. Just keep in mind that outside of a fairly small community of camera nerds, nobody will really "get" it. If it were me, I'd try to make it more universal - could be a fashion influencer or similar. I'm sure that this pattern of stuff is really common among other influencer communities too - I'd think of like the Ezarik sisters who both do a bunch of lifestyle influencer marketing. They never met a robot vacuum, electric car, or new Apple release that they didn't love and showcase in a very postiive, nicely-lit, non-threatening way.

Even with 'Arry Log you have to be careful exposing it.

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With autofocus like I specifically mentioned?

Now it's in my head as well, where's that ignore button when you need it?! 😉 I just wrote an entire Black Mirror episode based on camera marketing and it actually came out quite well as a piece of dystopian satire. If anyone has any good ideas for it DM me. But please no sad washed-up social media grifter with a cat characters.

There are a number of full frame anamorphics on the market ranging from "affordable" to "costs more than a car." Otherwise, https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=1.33x+full+frame+anamorphic

I see it more as a Michael Caine voiceover and it had better “blow the bladdy doors off”. I’m thinking of a Harry Palmer/The Italian Job mash up.