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So this has changed from you comparing S1Rii colour compared with S5ii compared with OG S5 to S1ii vs Black Magic, I can't keep up 😜 I could change the topic now to your Black Magic colour science vs my Lumix IBIS. But in all seriousness, there is no one single one stop solution to anything but rather a case of whatever suits your needs best!

Here is an example where it is quite obvious. (With the s1ii vs blackmagic) the skintone difference is massive. While on the blackmagic I would not need to change the skintones at all on the s1ii it would need some tweaking to get rid off the red skintones. Ok many clients prolly won't notice it or would complain about it. But I sure do see it + panasonic has the most different colour science of sony. Which at the moment is the market leader over here. And 1 client specific told me they liked colour science of sony the most, prolly because the market is flooded with sony footage and that is what they are used too. (Was on a shoot with a mix of panasonic and sony camera's next to each other, so we had to grade the panasonic footage to the sony look :') )

There loss is our gain. As soon as I get the chance, I am going to put up this Arri log against Andy log and Joel log in a direct head to head. Regardless of result, I can really only choose Andy or Joel log because I can put that on all 4 cameras but the official Arri only on 1. Andy log = @Andrew Reid version of what the Arri lut might be for Lumix cameras. Joel log = Phantom Luts which are designed to replicate various Arri based movie looks.

Buy used and let some other mug take the hit! I do sometimes buy new myself, but I’d estimate that 75-80% of all my purchases (cameras and lenses) in the last 5 years have been used. This new release does seem VERY overpriced that and possibly a bit speculative of them as the old model is trading quite high?

I disagree and you can call me a Lumix fangirl or shill, but having or having had all 3, nah. The OG S5 did/does have a marginally better image quality than the S5ii as did the S1H and S1R and I think the magic is back with the S1Rii. Based on both my limited so far testing and the results of others who have not just jumped to Lumix or have limited skills in the first place. There is some outright shit out there as there is for any and every camera because it’s not just the camera, but the lens, the use of the kit, the environment, the editing/processing, the output and presentation and yada yada yada. The bottom line is if you don’t feel it’s for you and you have a system that works better for you, cool, but this system other than a couple of lens shaped holes is now extremely mature. IMO, the mojo is back. S5ii still rocks for longer form content and whilst SOOC it might have an image a fraction behind the older stuff and the newer kit, it takes hardly any effort to tweak it. As above, credit where credit is due and I was heading towards Nikon or Sony, but Lumix have done enough to have my loyalty and I am now 100% within L Mount. *Caveat; subject to the next 5 days real world test, ie, paid work that no amount of testing can replicate, but expect no issues as 3 of 4 cameras I have been working with for 1.5 years already and it’s only the S1Rii that is new*

I got in touch with the person who's doing this project and we've been emailing back and forth about it. There's now a YouTube channel and a sample video (with more to come).

I've never really felt like the color science was bad, though I do think the S5 had a special image, but even if I did, with real time lut you can pretty much nail it right in camera after making your own lut, negating any issues one might have with color science.

Man all the recently released camera price have gone through the roof, I guess this will be the new norm

We have guys like that, buying the newest gear and sell in quite short time (like a month)

Looks like a great camera, but what prevents me buying it is the colour science. It looks worse then s5ii, and s5ii was already worse then the s5. The skintones look horrific magenta with red blotches. Which is the biggest problem with this camera imo. Sure you could fix it with some post work. But why would I buy this camera when there are numerous options out there that dont have this problem. And saves me time each project.

Could well be and no idea either. I wouldn't knowingly buy stolen good myself, but I guess we'd never know, especially if the legit company selling them to you is the source.

100% I'd easily pick the II model over the III...and was considering it but scratched that itch with the Zf...and despite that being my favourite ever camera to shoot with, selling it, for the second time, but needs must. Anyone EU also want to buy a minty Zf?! 🤪

The RX1R can be had for as little as 700 quid and has the same very good Zeiss lens. The Leica M Typ 240 remains the cheapest and most underrated Leica for 2 grand if that floats your boat. I regret selling mine. The Sigma Fp-L with EVF-11 has same sensor as the RX1R III, but like the a7rc isn't as pocketable with a 35mm F2 on the front. The attraction of the RX1R for me has always been the fun factor and size, plus that Zeiss lens is one of the best you can get, perfectly optimised for the sensor and it sits right up against it, without the optical compromises of E-mount. But in some ways the Mark III goes backwards from the RX1R II, which sells for around £2k second hand. No articulated screen any more, and the beautifully engineered pop-up EVF is replaced with a boring standard one for cost reasons. If you don't need 4K or 60MP, that 42MP Mark II does a lot of things right including phase-detect AF. One thing I am curious about with the new model is whether they have modernised the lens. As the original lens had a big heavy element that moves around and slows down the AF system. The RX1R III at £4200 in the UK bodes well for the used price in a couple of years, probably down around £2800 unless they are really scarce. The US price seems to have been Trump-fucked. One final thought is I wish Sony would do a camera this size with E-mount, to give us something other than the Fp-L and Panasonic S9 to play with.

Comparing the a7RC versus the RX1R III, it is £1700 cheaper. There are plenty of compact 35mm full frame e-mount lenses that will leave you with enough change to buy a few (many) more focal lengths if you don’t want to be locked into the 35mm. Its going to be bigger of course but so is your bank balance. This might actually tip people over the edge to the a7RC that were sitting on the fence waiting for the MkIII of the RX1R. So the bastards win either way.

Or a new LX10, or bette lr a GM 1with rhe latest Lumix technology

Yeah - I was talking as an alternative tiny camera for the people who might be a target market for the rx1r iii. 515g (a7cr body only) is closer to 498g (body+lens of rx1r iii) than 723g (a7r v). Though they're all big enough that they won't fit in a pocket, unless you're wearing some Matty G cargo pants. (Maybe someday, some vendor will make a decent quality digital Olympus XA-1 - come on, OM System! Get with it) The ergonomics on the V look a LOT better, as you said. But sorry if I was unclear that I meant the specs on the sensor look similar between the two cameras. I'm willing to bet that I wouldn't be able to tell the difference in still photos or 4K video taken on the A7CR and A7R5. 😃

I agree that I doubt they would intentionally deal in stolen goods. I just have heard that in my country, there isn't a very good centralized database for stolen cameras - so even for stores that want to do the right thing, it's really hard to know. Given the high percentage of my gear that was purchased used, I sort of assume that some of it was sold to the store by someone who didn't acquire it through honest means, regardless of intent.

Nah, A7RV KILLS the A7CR. Unless you absolutely must have that body type, it has; better stab, MUCH better EVF and rear fully articulating LCD, twin type B CF Express with write back up (stills anyway, not sure about video) and is just a much better platform. I have one for sale if anyone wants one? EU only!! But that's not why I'm rating it well over the A7CR, - it's simply a much better camera in every regard except as above, unless you must have a rangefinderesque body.

I don’t know but it came from MPB UK with their standard 6 month used warranty and I doubt they’d deal in stolen goods. Most likely someone’s favourite YouTuber said, “actually, I know I just hopped over from Sony to LUMIX, but I’ve decided to now go to Nikon”. One of those talkers/collectors who never actually shoots, just talks and collects and maybe one day, when they have finally assembled all the right kit, will actually use it 🤷‍♂️

Yeah, I watched a few comparison videos and took notes, decided I wanted the Blazar 1.5x adapter as it was the softest, lightest and had the least horizontal flares. Then I looked up how much they all cost and bought the Sirui! I genuinely have no idea if I'll like it, but I figure it should either be useful to take the edge off my modern zooms, or to add another layer onto my vintage lenses. If I combine it with my 0.71 m42-m43 speed booster, it makes the end result a 1.14 crop factor, so basically a FF camera, which will make a lot of my lenses a bit easier to use in practice. I got the email from Sirui Australia but I guess maybe the bottlenecks might be upstream. Who knows. Reverse-engineering global supply line logistics is probably an impossible task and won't get my adapter here any faster! Thanks, my Global Head of Design was responsible for the selection. My fairy lights are excellent - the lights are bright, tiny (so are essentially point sources), and the whole thing runs off a USB so no power adapters etc to deal with. The wire is just a thin single-core wire so easily bends and is relatively fragile, so I'll have to work out where to put them up for testing. I was thinking I might just put them up in my studio and when I want to test bokeh I can just plug a portable USB charger into them, turn off all the other lights and then wave the camera around.

It is a very nice camera from my experiences with it, though I've only used it a half dozen times. I actually just texted my buddy who owns it and asked if it had overheated yet, since it's now the hottest time of year here in Vermont, and he said it hasn't and he has had it out in the sun on 90 degree days. He doesn't do super long takes though like I would as an event shooter.

It's almost certainly because they bought a boatload of them and need to get rid of them.

Salford? I've stayed there when I went to see The Stone Roses on the Etihad Stadium. The apartment was kinda close of the famous (by The Smiths) Salford Lads Club. 🙂

2.36mp EVF, in 2025, OMFG...... what is Sony's obsession with using the worst quality screens/EVFs on their cameras. Also I'm not sure who mentioned it, but at that price honestly I would much rather grab the GFX100RF!!!!!

If you want small and don't care about 8k video, you could also go with the A7CR which also has a 61mp sensor - maybe the same one? I don't follow Sony too closely, but the specs look awfully similar.