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Actually... The boom in raw codecs is being driven by clients That's my hunch. They want the best possible quality master files to do whatever they do with them. And lack the understanding that H.265 is more than fine, or that LOG should *shock horror* be graded!

True. Except that, as hobbyists, we’re not up against deadlines and there are occasions when the more stuff we have to play with, the better. In that respect raw provides more fun opportunities! That is, I suspect a very different perspective to that of a single working professional who needs to optimise client satisfaction (income) while minimising time spent sitting in front of a computer.

Thats with today storage technology and prices. 20 years ago, CompactFlash was expensive and one of the reasons people complained about raw. That's why they were insisting that 12 megapixels is enough and 24mp is unnecessary huge!

I prefer H.265 as well, over the pseudo raw formats. Cinema DNG is still the best quality RAW in terms of the film look and unprocessed sensor readout.

I don't think photographic RAW can be compared to video, or maybe I didn't understand your point. With a 4TB hard drive, you can store infinite RAW photographs. I dive almost every week and usually bring home about 10 minutes of good footage, which I'd ideally like to archive. For special projects, I might get up to 20 minutes. This means between 100 and 300 GB per session. That's not a small amount. Now, it's clear that shooting in RAW is not a medical prescription, but I was wondering if it's a practical solution for everyone, considering that's all anyone talks about now.

It's also worth pointing out that jpeg is, as far as I know, 8-bit only. It's one of the reasons that modern iPhones (and maybe Android?) default to HEIF instead.

Default value of sharpening for NRaw in Resolve is defined in Project setting Camera Raw page and it seems to be 10 out 100 and you CAN set it to zero. Sharpness can be then adjusted on clip level too. With sharpness set to 10 NRaw looks clean, but calm, not over sharpened For Red Raw Resolve has Image detail that can be set to low, medium and high. Z6iii NRaw files pretty surely do not have default noice reduction when you compare same file named to NEV and R3D with R3D’s chroma NR activated.

In still photography, the storage space issue for RAW is less pressing than in video and since each still image can be studied for a long time (at least in print) people can pay more attention to quality (and photographers can afford more time into editing of individual frames with masks etc. while in video it would be extremely tedious to make exposure blending or other manually drawn mask based operations on a frame by frame basis). In the early years of digital system cameras, the difference between RAW and JPEG was more obvious and people got used to RAW because the image details were better and of course the files are more editable. For video, I suspect that RAW usage will be more limited to high end where there are professional colorists etc. and occasional shooters who don't shoot a huge quantity of material. But maybe I am wrong. 😉

Maybe NRAW has a metadata piece that automatically activates a default value of sharpening and noise reduction in Davinci that you can't set to zero. They should compare the files in REDCINE-X Pro.

Different post-processing pipelines and their settings for N-RAW and R3D NE may be what is causing such differences and not necessarily different primary data in the file, unless the person making the video actually used the renaming hack. However, of course it is possible that the data are different in the files. However, sharpening images and storing them in the raw format makes no sense as the images are not in RGB format at that time. Sharpening in that phase could mess up the colors so I doubt they are doing it.

It took me a long time to be persuaded of the advantage of raw vs Jpeg, but once I gave in, I saw the light. I suspect if in camera storage and subsequent drive storage was not an issue, I might be tempted. If I was to earlier in my career rather than the twilight, even more so, but I have decided against. Very tempted with the new Zr, but in the end I have made the decision that I am better putting my effort elsewhere. There are 3 areas for me where I could invest my time & energy. 1. Tech 2. Creativity 3. Marketing I choose 2&3 going forward because 1. is as good as it needs to be for me.

Agreed. However, as you have noted in your example, Sony's SLVS-EC interface is designed primarily for delivering high-resolution and high-framerate capture and not necessarily for increased bit depth: https://www.sony-semicon.com/en/technology/is/slvsec.html#:~:text=Select content-,Overview,more pixels and higher speed. https://www.automate.org/tech-papers/the-evolving-landscape-of-cmos-image-sensor-interfaces#:~:text=High-,SLVS-EC (Scalable Low-Voltage Signaling with Embedded Clock,and data transfer are critical.

Yea, definitely NRAW has baked in NR/sharpness, R3D NE is pure and clean.

In an unregulated state, all the money will go to the owners of the AI built on stolen data (from creatives without compensation) and no working person will have money. It'll be like the 1920s again, and remember the tariffs then made the US depression spread worldwide, leading eventually to World War II. After which a period of relative decency began, until the 1980s where all the money more and more were given to the fewest of people, leading eventually to Brexit, Trump, the Russia-Ukraine war. All of these phenomena since the 1980s happened because the multimillionaires and billionaires want to have all the money and keep it too. Adapting is the same as capitulation which makes working people the equivalent of slaves. All the money will go to the techno-oligarchs and their criminal politician friends. The only way to solve the problem is to make AI models based on stolen data illegal and erase them or give due compensation to the creators of the original teaching data that was used to make the model, and tax billionaires so that they end up with only the money that a decent life requires. This would restore fairness and decency in society and good lives to ordinary people.

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The world is changing fast. The real challenge is adapting or we’re out of the game. Brexit happened nine years ago because of this regulation you mention, and Trump (as well as others like him) rose for similar or related reasons, at least partly (the phenomenon is complex!), I’d tend to dare myself to guess.

Do you have a link to the video? For me, this could be just a sharpness setting or the person might be moving slightly. One thing this tells me, is that the H265, is not as bad as some people have made it to be.

I’m not complaining about the new, i’m fairly indifferent towards it. It won’t really affect my life very much either way. I just fail to see if this is an interesting topic compared to a labor market that keeps getting worse and whatever capital is trending towards now. The complete devaluation of quality in arts (and even commerce fwiw) and the tendency to constantly cut corners by automating tasks, or even straight up skipping the entire process and straight up generating content from large data models has had an extremely negative impact on my life, as well as others. The fact that no one with any political power anywhere wants to regulate it and just sees it as a given is also bad i think.

As a just hobbyist I don’t probably need Raw, but viewing from a 3m screen you don’t want to view something shot on a phone in crappy HDR mode either. After starting to shoot Raw I’ve wanted to shoot more, to see how the Raw clips look. Also tinkered more in Resolve to get better understanding how to get better looking end result. Got also new lenses to get better footage from different angles. Could have just done the same with Panasonic H.265 but somehow it started to feel boring. Sometimes change is good if it makes you want to shoot and learn more. The only bad thing about Raw is cost of storage, which might make you trim the clips too tight to save space. For CPU and GPU in Apple land 6k raw isn’t any heavier to edit than 6k H.265, unless you need NR, which is as heavy as using speed warp to slow down 6k25p H.265. 4TB SSD costs now the same than 2TB a few years ago.

LOFIC is inherently noisy, because its optimized for saturation. Its like having a sensor that its base ISO is ISO 25, but its max ISO is 400. Thus you need a second readout optimized for low noise to combine the two. And you can't get really good noise performance in the second one until you go up in size to at least 1 inch format.

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It doesn't look 18 stops. Also the shadows are insanely noisy. Maybe they meant 10 stops and it got translated as 18 stops. Also, except the noise pattern, both pics seem to have similar dynamic range.

That would make sense. Why would Nikon buy Red, introduce RedCode Raw into a camera and trick everyone by using NRaw and calling it RedCode? Seems kinda pointless. I am no expert in coding, but wouldn't it make more sense that Nikon had to implement R3D into the "language" that communicates with their processors. So R3D was reconfigured slightly. Just a guess, but has anyone tried to rename the R3D files as NRaw... I would guess that it works.

Same arguments were valid in still photography. Lot of news/event shooters stuck with jpeg while the rest of photographers see the "jpeg only" sign on the camera display as a catastrophe. Its been always about having flexibility for artistic purposes. If your work is concentrated on documentation of real world as it is, Standard color profile Jpeg is the best choice.

Either these reviewers don't know what they're doing or R3D NE is not exactly repackaged NRAW. Nlog is noticeably softer, in both NRAW and h.265. R3D details is close to SDR h.265, even at second base ISO. Even the skin tone is different