A new Super 16 Cinema Cam: the GoPro Mission 1 Pro ILS?

[kye]

Great looking images but the EIS isn't a substitute for IBIS or OIS - you can see in this footage the image gets blurry at random times...

I think this mostly kills this camera for me at least.  

If you're hand-holding then either you use short-shutters, or you use 180 shutter but need to stabilise BEFORE the exposure, rather than stabilising AFTER when the frames are already blurry.

[Alt Shoo]

@steadygannet63

 yea, when I close my eyes I actually see the timeline and the blocks moving. I’m being serious. I would have lots of YouTube videos published if I wasn’t so numb from editing. 

[John Matthews]

Does anyone have experience with Gyroflow? I'm not certain, but I think you might need to shoot with the intention of using it as SS needs to be upped a little.

[Clark Nikolai]

1 hour ago, John Matthews said:

Does anyone have experience with Gyroflow? I'm not certain, but I think you might need to shoot with the intention of using it as SS needs to be upped a little.

I tested it out a few times. It does a good job. I used an app in an iPhone (attached with a phone holder to the camera rig) to record the gyro info. It added an extra step when shooting and there was some extra work and time to process the footage though. For my current project I determined that my shoulder rig was good enough as it is.

But I do think it's a cool technology. Easier to use than a gimbal. If I was to get in to it more I would buy a Niyien Senseflow. You only need to sync with the camera once a day then you let it run.

Here's a thread.

 

[kye]

9 hours ago, John Matthews said:

Does anyone have experience with Gyroflow? I'm not certain, but I think you might need to shoot with the intention of using it as SS needs to be upped a little.

It's stabilisation after the exposure is made, so it will be subject to the same blurring as in the video I posted above.

Depending on how much stabilisation is required and what your shutter angle is, it might be visible or might not.  I'd highly encourage you do some testing to work out if it will meet your quality requirements.  

[John Matthews]

10 hours ago, kye said:

Depending on how much stabilisation is required and what your shutter angle is, it might be visible or might not.  I'd highly encourage you do some testing to work out if it will meet your quality requirements.  

I'm sure IBIS will do better. However, when I look at the footage up to 50mm, it looks decent if you have the right SS. You have to remember I'm replacing a GX800 (2017 tech). The ILS isn't really in the same league in terms of capabilities (especially audio and slow motion). Both cameras are better when using a tripod of any kind. The GX800 didn't have any IS other than optical in the lens and the video (even 4k) was more susceptible to moiré and aliasing. The ILS is effectively lighter with way better IS than the GX800- that's why I'd get it. I do like the Flip-up screen on the GX800, something I wish the S9 would have.

Here are some thoughts from someone who actually purchased the camera like me: