Which Canon Mirrorless (and DSLR) cameras don't overheat when recording 4K?

[QuickHitRecord]

Other than the pricey R5C, of course. Also, I don't think my EOS-R has ever overheated. But it has a significant crop. Maybe the 1D-C, 1D-X ii or iii?

I don't care about 30-min recording time limits. This would only be for b-roll and photos.

Asking because I almost blacked out during a paid video + photo shoot out in the sun today. When I came home and weighed the gear I was hauling around (rigged up C70, EOS-R, tripod, lenses, batteries), it was 32lbs. I can't put this off anymore. It's time for a hybrid.

And yes, I am too invested in Canon to consider any mount other than RF or EF.

[eatstoomuchjam]

For B-roll and photos, I'm not sure that any modern Canon is in any danger of overheating.  I've used the original R5 as b camera for narrative, rolling every second alongside the C70 I was using at the time.  It never even showed any signs of distress.  That was doing 8K raw.  If you use the 4K standard mode, it'll be even less of a problem.

It would definitely not be a camera that I'd choose for rolling long takes in 8K, but most of its reputation for overheating is Canon's fault for having such stupid firmware when the camera was released.

 

[MrSMW]

4 hours ago, QuickHitRecord said:

Asking because I almost blacked out during a paid video + photo shoot out in the sun today. When I came home and weighed the gear I was hauling around (rigged up C70, EOS-R, tripod, lenses, batteries), it was 32lbs. I can't put this off anymore. It's time for a hybrid.

2 years ago, I bought a cheap cart off Amazon and use that to lighten the load.

1 year ago, I revised some of my kit to get the weight down.

This year, I revised it even further.

And guess what is happening next year? Yep, reducing it again.

Providing you can still do what you need to do without compromise, or at least compromise that you can live with, less is more.

That tripod that is ‘the best’, well maybe it is, but can that lighter alternative do the same job? 

Ditto that body, that lens, that light…

In less than 2 years, I reduced both my stills and video cameras, in hand weight by about half with changes of body, lenses and accessories.

But Canon, no idea, but I would suspect none of the recent one’s do. At least not under normal circumstances.

[QuickHitRecord]

3 hours ago, eatstoomuchjam said:

I've used the original R5 as b camera for narrative, rolling every second alongside the C70 I was using at the time.  It never even showed any signs of distress.

Interesting. Though for narrative, there are lots of long breaks. There are breaks during the b-roll I shoot too, but I'm often in the hot sun.

I'm kind of tempted to give the R8 a try. Josh Sattin's videos suggest that it can roll for over two hours continuously in 24P. That goes down significantly in 60P, but I tend to shoot about 70% of my b-roll in 24P.

53 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

In less than 2 years, I reduced both my stills and video cameras, in hand weight by about half with changes of body, lenses and accessories.

But Canon, no idea, but I would suspect none of the recent one’s do. At least not under normal circumstances.

I've been trying to do the same. Four years ago, I was lugging around a pair of 575w HMIs(!). Now I have a rule that if a client wants more than what I can fit on my cart, they need to budget for my gaffer too.

But getting hired for photo + video is always a problem for me because it means multiple bodies, multiple lenses, etc. I've held off because I don't think the quality is really there, but at this point I am willing to make some sacrifices.

[MrSMW]

4 hours ago, QuickHitRecord said:

Now I have a rule that if a client wants more than what I can fit on my cart, they need to budget for my gaffer too.

I have the same policy in that a job isn't just a job as in all jobs are the same, but some do not fit into a standard box or coverage.

In my genre of weddings, having everything take place in one single location is a completely different beast to; bride getting ready at X, groom at Y, ceremony at A, reception at B, which can make for HUGE logistical issues.

[ntblowz]

Canon R6II and R7 can record 4K for long hours without overheating, on my ex R7 the only time I see heating bar was during summer inside a clear tent which is like greenhouse on stereoid, even DJ's equipement got overheated, but R7 still only 4 bars out of 10 so pretty alright.

R8 on the other hand will need a fan to go through summer outdoor for long 4K recording, for broll it was fine though, just you will see the the overheating bar pretty often in video. The 4k50P quality is really great, but now I got R5C the quality is even better, R5C is probably the closest to C70 in terms of noise performance in clog.

I also got powershot V1, this one can record 4K for hours without overheating, but the bar did went to 5 at one stage, that was because the location is next to the heater. It is a nice C cam for wide and as a pocket cam.

So my current setup is R5C/R8 and V1 for 3 cam and 3 60/40w cob lights with battery for wedding, with this setup I only need 1 pelican case, 1 backpack and 1 bag for tripod/stand.

 

I used to have the R5 as well, after their latest firmware I haven't seen the overheating warning at all, even I shot 8K broll in outdoor summer.

One thing with Canon is on the EOS side, only R5/R5C/EOS R can have hdmi out + internal recording + internal screen on, all other models the screen either go black if recording internally or have internal screen but can't record internally if you are connected to hdmi