Orangenz Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 https://willrobotstakemyjob.com/27-4032-film-and-video-editors 31% for editors. The more one can automate of that process the better imho. The Premiere audio panel automates a lot of work out for sure and I think that sort of thing will only continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReinisK Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 What does the Premiere audio panel do? Ok, I just googled it. Seems to simplify things and seems to have auto mode. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 6, 2017 Super Members Share Posted July 6, 2017 I put in Photographers and was surprised to see it was only 2% as I can see definitely technology emerging that will make the capture part of the process far more automated. However, underneath Photographers was Models. Now then, surely we must all be very worried considering the score given for them..... Although, on the other hand, I can see an awful lot of undatable nerds getting ready to welcome this apparently imminent army of fembots. https://willrobotstakemyjob.com/41-9012-models Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvertonesx24 Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Robots won't take all professional service jobs, they just let one person do the job of ten Orangenz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomekk Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 2 hours ago, BTM_Pix said: I put in Photographers and was surprised to see it was only 2% as I can see definitely technology emerging that will make the capture part of the process far more automated. Why? In what genre? If someone is just a picture taker and that's his only skill then of course automation could potentially harm him because he relies only on the capture part. Digital is already harming picture takers, anyway. Great capture part is more often than not basic requirement to an award winning photograph nowadays. It's one piece of the puzzle (least important, IMHO). I'd love not to have to worry about AF/DOF/retouching people and just get on with what's important in the photo ;). Automation of the capture part only could wipe off bottom end of "photographers". Admittedly, this could be most people who think they're photographers nowadays? We would need to define who a photographer is in the first place and then run this algorithm ;). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 6, 2017 Super Members Share Posted July 6, 2017 2 hours ago, tomekk said: Why? In what genre? If someone is just a picture taker and that's his only skill then of course automation could potentially harm him because he relies only on the capture part. Digital is already harming picture takers, anyway. Great capture part is more often than not basic requirement to an award winning photograph nowadays. It's one piece of the puzzle (least important, IMHO). I'd love not to have to worry about AF/DOF/retouching people and just get on with what's important in the photo ;). Automation of the capture part only could wipe off bottom end of "photographers". Admittedly, this could be most people who think they're photographers nowadays? We would need to define who a photographer is in the first place and then run this algorithm ;). I'll give you one example that isn't at a low end where people don't just think they're photographers. Light field capture will massively impact the area where I now work of sports photography. A live event like a football match can sustain the number of photographers it does (120+ at major events like CL Final) because of diversity of coverage from around a large field of play. When that can be achieved by several fixed position devices then the human work switches to the editors. As a lot of editing is done off camera remotely anyway now this will not be new jobs created either. So that will be the end of those photography jobs as the editors will have the raw material to work from themselves. With light field, you certainly won't have to worry about AF and DOF again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomekk Posted July 6, 2017 Share Posted July 6, 2017 Yeah, makes sense in this type of photography. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangenz Posted July 6, 2017 Author Share Posted July 6, 2017 8 hours ago, BTM_Pix said: However, underneath Photographers was Models. Errrmm, not sure I'd phrase it that way... mercer and BTM_Pix 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugela Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 No. I am a research scientist. The chance of a robot taking my job is roughly zero. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HockeyFan12 Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 Tbh I kind of hope they do. Orangenz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 7, 2017 Super Members Share Posted July 7, 2017 I've just a got a job with Canon to work on the launch event for 4K in their DSLRs. That should be me safe for another 7-9 years. Orangenz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted July 7, 2017 Super Members Share Posted July 7, 2017 I've been asked to handle marketing for an event celebrating the day when people on forums got real with their expectations and that hell just froze. Orangenz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sondreg Posted July 7, 2017 Share Posted July 7, 2017 I don't remember what they're called but there are already robots for some television broadcast like podcasts and stuff, kinda like the way Google hangouts automatically switches the source to whoevers talking. So in broadcasting world robots are already starting to take over, and I guess a lot of editing will be assisted by this technology but I really don't believe it will replace anything with complexity such as a music video or art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted July 7, 2017 Super Members Share Posted July 7, 2017 BTW, pretty sure Canon already held such an event when they released the first 4K DSLR back in 2013.. must be one hell of a party if its still going and adding more people to the crew 4 minutes ago, sondreg said: I don't remember what they're called but there are already robots for some television broadcast like podcasts and stuff, kinda like the way Google hangouts automatically switches the source to whoevers talking. So in broadcasting world robots are already starting to take over, and I guess a lot of editing will be assisted by this technology but I really don't believe it will replace anything with complexity such as a music video or art. Yup, my first contact with a fully preprogrammed and automated TV-studio was back in 2005-2007. And it was used for national broadcast of a kids television show. Pretty nifty with an editing timeline ready even before shooting. Camera movement, repositioning, zooms, focus, cuts, lights, all automated from a preprogramed timeline. They had one operator standing buy incase they wanted to go in different direction but it wasn't really needed. Orangenz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 7, 2017 Super Members Share Posted July 7, 2017 6 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said: BTW, pretty sure Canon already held such an event when they released the first 4K DSLR back in 2013.. must be one hell of a party if its still going and adding more people to the crew Damn, I knew I should've put sub £3000 in brackets after DSLR 9 minutes ago, Mattias Burling said: Yup, my first contact with a fully preprogrammed and automated TV-studio was back in 2005-2007. And it was used for national broadcast of a kids television show. Pretty nifty with an editing timeline ready even before shooting. Camera movement, repositioning, zooms, focus, cuts, lights, all automated from a preprogramed timeline. They had one operator standing buy incase they wanted to go in different direction but it wasn't really needed. The BBC use them for BBC News and it doesn't always go well. My favourite ones are when the content seems to trip the boredom circuit and the cameras just wander off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 7, 2017 Super Members Share Posted July 7, 2017 On a lower level, the Mevo from Livestream is a pretty cool trick faking multi camera from a static shot. If they made this as a box you could plug any 4K camera into (rather than its own go pro-ish internal one) it would be a big seller I think. DataVideo make a higher end one but its £5K. If BlackMagic made it then it probably would be the same price as the Mevo but not sure if they would as it would impact their ATEM product sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members Mattias Burling Posted July 7, 2017 Super Members Share Posted July 7, 2017 36 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said: Damn, I knew I should've put sub £3000 in brackets after DSLR I paid less than that for my 1DC over a year ago But still, it wasn't a very good camera imho compared to a 5Dmkiii or the LS300 I swapped to. Yeah like all robots those studios sometimes go off. But so could an operator. As a producer I would just analyze cost vs fail frequency vs time saved vs etc. If it saves both time and money without any real loss in quality... sold (unfortunately). BTM_Pix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orangenz Posted July 7, 2017 Author Share Posted July 7, 2017 59 minutes ago, BTM_Pix said: Damn, I knew I should've put sub £3000 in brackets after DSLR The BBC use them for BBC News and it doesn't always go well. My favourite ones are when the content seems to trip the boredom circuit and the cameras just wander off That's a pretty incredible number of robot bloopers. Don't the teams talk to each other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Members BTM_Pix Posted July 7, 2017 Super Members Share Posted July 7, 2017 28 minutes ago, Orangenz said: That's a pretty incredible number of robot bloopers. Don't the teams talk to each other? The robots have regular meetings about it but they're easily distracted. Orangenz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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