FHDcrew

Valid. But to counter your point, despite this being a large DSLR it is still going to be a compact, well-distributed package considering there is internal RAW. Yes the R6 ii is smaller, but slap an Atomos Ninja V on there to record Prores RAW and you now have a large, heavy setup with awkward ergonomics and balance. I guarantee the 1dx ii will be more enjoyable to use, as the RAW recording is internal, thus not requiring a large external recorder to be bolted to the top of the camera.

Slightly off-topic but for not terribly more one can purchase a used Canon 1Dx Mark III to get 5k internal RAW, a similar image to a Canon R3

Everything I ever do goes online to YouTube. No one is going to see the benefits of 4k or 8k. And to be honest, often 8k downrezzed to 4k or even 1080p is just too sharp; I sometimes find 4k on my Nikon Z6 to be too sharp; I can see too many pores in the skin. As I've said before, downsampled 1080p I think is a perfect medium, great detail without looking too sharp, small file sizes, still great image flexibility. Plus I can literally get away with cropping in on this 1080p image and it still holds up to an extent. To me dynamic range and color are much more noticable to me than are a more detailed image. And again, it's all going online where people just won't see the difference, even if I scale up my 1080 to 4k for YT delivery.

Poor AF? I’ve heard it’s usuable

Actually Ninja 2 does not seem terribly-sized, an interesting option!

Ninja 2 should do it. It's going to be bigger and heavier, but you can get the identical 1080p image. Just set record settings to 4k on the Z6; then go into HDMI settings, set output to 10 bit and resolution to 1080p. Then the downsampling is activated.

Looks like there is a variable 10x FHD zoom function…which leads me to believe the FHD 24p image is oversampled. If so that’s huge.

30 min record limit removed

Seems to offer some useful new features. 6k RAW over HDMI DPAF II (this is killer) Movie pre-record FHD at 180fps with full AF False Color Support (yay) Focus-breathing compensation Overheating much improved for 4k 60p, eliminates for 4k30p

Exactly! The differences are tiny. Especially if you view the footage at 100%.

I wholeheartedly agree, and I wish I had done that with my original post. My original point was that natively, when looking at the RAW files, downsampled 1080p doesn't look much softer than native 4k. The difference is small enough not to matter unless viewed side-by-side. The difference is small, and as a result one can use a tiny Atomos Ninja Star with a Nikon Z6 to gain 10 bit log without needing a large bulky external recorder/monitor, thus making the Z6/Star combination very compelling given the price.

Plus you get a lot of popular 2022 convenience features at a very low price point. You really can’t get full frame 10 bit PDAF and IBIS for this cheap otherwise

Yeah Kye I never got that from your posts. My whole point was that downsampled 1080p looks very similar to 4k even when viewed on a 4k screen, and because of that fact, the Atomos Ninja Star makes the Nikon Z6 a pretty great camera in 2022, as you get a great image but much less inconvenience compared to most external recorder/monitors.

I know!!!

I definately agree. Sure there is a small difference, but it's quite small, and if anything that difference is more like in 4k you can see too many pores on the skin, with oversampled 1080p it looks almost the same but just enough softness to add a bit of organic mojo to the image.

Plot twist time... Not only was the footage oversampled 1080p and not 4k, but much of the 1080p source footage was stabilized in-post and thus scaled up further. Still looks solid on my end.

Did you mean downsampled 4k to HD is hard to distinguish from 4k?

Yeah, I may re-upload. I realize that. Except I deleted the RAW footage, I plan to upload another example and will upload in 4k, then will post it here.

Last 4 shots were shot internally with the Nikon FLAT profile. But everything else was NLOG with the Ninja Star.

I just wanted to share some footage I captured recently to demonstrate the quality one can get with a used Nikon Z6 and an Atomos Ninja Star. Oversampled 1080p, 10 bit prores, nice log curve with good color and solid DR, and a really good grading workflow in Davinci Resolve. A few shots were with the internal FLAT picture profile but the majority of the shots were in NLOG. This camera combo is really awesome for the price, and the Ninja Star keeps things light and compact! Also useable autofocus, full frame IQ, for pretty cheap!

Pretty cool but I wonder if it’s binned from the full-sensor? Or cropped?

I refuse to ignore. This thread is clearly superior.

It seems like an absolute PAIN to shoot with, and I’ve heard the dynamic range is not amazing. But yes the global shutter basically makes up for it, so much mojo and glorious motion candence. And you get that sweet sweet uncompressed CDNG RAW video, so it’s very pure. Though it sucks in lowlight and has horrendous battery life, plus the ergonomics are strange.

Funny you say it's collecting dust, I'm considering upgrading to a Panasonic S1 from my Nikon Z6. You selling? Just curious.

Does it improve color depth? If I threw 8 bit Sony SLOG2 footage through it?