TomTheDP

I have no worries about the S1 overheating unless under extreme conditions. The S1R also might be an option now. I am interested to see how the S1/S1H 6K compares to the 5k coming out of the S1R. It could be potentially sharper than the 6k considering its downsampled 8k.

Yeah the APSC mode is magic to have for anything run and gun. I'd be keeping my Fuji if it wasn't for the record limits. I prefer it for photography most of the time. For video I prefer the Panasonic though. The Emotive color luts really bring the Pana to life. I am even considering getting a GH5 again as a C camera for interviews. Hard to beat Panasonic's just general reliability and usability.

If you want to record externally to an atomos I'd get the S1 due to it having a full hdmi rather than a micro. You will have to wait for the firmware update early next year to get the 6k raw out though. Otherwise they are essentially the same camera (after the S1 gets the already announced update). The S5 is smaller and has a flippy screen. The S1 also has no record limits. But yeah for a hybrid camera I think the S1 or S5 is the best right now.

Yeah I mean Z-cam is doing it almost. They just need their E-ND to be widely available.

Plus I think the S5 really has the nicest image on the block atm

Dynamic range is gonna be limited unless they put in CLOG2 or 3. The workaround is if you use the R5 to shoot RAW. I'd invest in the C70 if I were you unless you want to work around the dynamic range, which is of course totally doable. I'd agree though Pana color is subpar, I think the GHAlex lut which I keep plugging constantly is a good workaround though. It gives really beautiful skin tones. Its hard to beat the Pana image once the color is corrected IMO.

I'd say cine lenses are more for function than look. Of course stuff like focus breathing is also eliminated on a cine lens which effects the look. However a lot of vintage glass both Canon FD and Zeiss are very similar if not identical some of the Canon or Zeiss cine glass. The Sigma Art line will give you a pretty much perfect image at a low price point at least in regard to contrast and sharpness. But I was talking more about lens choice. Focal length and f-stop. Outdoors dynamic range plays a huge roll in how filmic your image will look. That said the XT3 in FLOG and HLG has pretty damn good dynamic range. Again its about picking the right shot. If a certain shot is stressing your cameras dynamic range too much, change the angle. Artificial lighting does play a role outdoors too though. Many Hollywood films will use powerful 6k + lights to shape light when there is full sun. Also negative fill and diffusion are widely used outdoors to shape light. Search GHAlex or Emotive Color on google and you'll find his page. You either have to shoot in HLG or FLOG I believe.

I mean throw on a stabilized zoom lens with a variable ND and you are good to go. A slightly more reliable option over USB C might be the SSD to CFAST. I've had seen issues with the USB-C options on the pockets. I always like to carry back up media in case of an issue though. That said yes its hard to beat something like a C300 but on the other hand people use to shoot DOCs on Film. The ease of use of something like a Pocket 4k is astounding compared to that. I think its all relative to some degree. Speedboosters also don't have to cost much, at least if you are willing to go with a non electronic one. The Pocket 6k is pretty awesome though shooting 6k raw is a bitch.

Yes you are right. Yeah I am not sure. A lot of this stuff seems arbitrary of any common sense lol

Unfortunately its only eliminated with Prores RAW not regular prores.

Lens choice, lighting, and location are the key for getting a "movie" look. In terms of color I'd highly recommend the GHA lut. Can't beat the Alexa for color. May not be your final look of course but its a good starting point. But again if you have a crappy location with crappy lighting your movie probably won't look much like a "movie"

@Sage I'd pay a pretty penny if you did a LUT for the Z-cam.

Yeah the Komodo is definitely for a specific crowd. I’d love to have global shutter. Hopefully GS comes to low end cameras, the motion is so beautiful.

I agree. On the other hand the Panasonic S1 is pretty phenomenal. I don’t take stills often but I did recently on the S1 and couldn’t believe how detailed they were. I can’t imagine needing more.

Yeah guessing it could just be the same sensor as the S1 although it would be more like Sony to try to one up panasonic.

I imagine Sony will release an A74 with a traditional 24mp sensor and 10 bit color. Maybe

Yeah Panasonic REC709 luts kinda suck. The Nicest709 is probably there best one.

The cool thing about the GHAlex luts is that they are specifically designed for the Panasonic S1. He even has individual exposure adjustments for -2, -1, +1 and +2 as color changes when you under or overexpose. Its really comprehensive. Pretty much made for people who want to use a cheaper camera alongside their Alexa as it matches 100% if you are using pure light sources at least. Works out for me as I want Alexa magic without actually owning one lol.

An atomos Shinobi is super light but of course you have to power it. Smaller NPF batteries don't add much weight though. I can go no monitor with something that has a tilt screen though its still a pain in the ass on Sunny days. I hate using the Pocket without a monitor though. That lack of tilting screen kills me.

My biggest worry with Z-cam is if the company went under. Otherwise they are super responsive to problems and the Facebook group is very quick to respond. Compared to say blackmagic I feel like they are more on top of the wants of their customers. They already have an internal E-ND option out where as blackmagic still has yet to put anything like that out. Unlike other camera companies they are giving us the full capabilities of the Sony sensors everyone is using. Also the Z-cam doesn't take 23 seconds to boot like the komodo lol. But yeah I would say the C70 is easily more compact. You don't actually really need anything to shoot with it. On the other side if you are going to use an external monitor (maybe because you want to see something in bright sunlight), something like the Z-cam or Komodo makes more sense. btw I am an owner of the E2 S6 and original E2.

I highly recommend the GHAlex LUT. Its a bit pricey but it feels like a different camera after using that LUT. Panasonic color is a bit trash but so is pretty much every other company besides Arri and maybe Canon lol. The Panasonic S1 is hard to beat for the price especially a used one.

Yeah it’s sucks though tbh after using an external monitor it’s hard to go back to tiny on camera monitors

The camera automatically switches to APSC mode when using S35 glass at least if the glass is modern with electronics. Honestly S35 mode looks great though.

He has a direct to 709 conversion as well as Log-C. Ive personally used lut Calc and GHalex. They definitely produce different results. He also has a specific version for Premiere as well as under and overexposure LUTs. I highly recommend.

Great news for me. My S1 is now way more capable. Plus I get a full hdmi port.