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Didn't the Z6 get multiple AF updates for video and stills? Which cameras have pro AF? Is the A9 considered pro AF? or the EOS-R considered pro AF? Will you be trying Pro Res RAW with the Z6 ? It's hard to tell if that's a viable option for 2020.

That Sony car is a joke.

WHAT'S THE VIDEO HDR FEATURES HE TALKS ABOUT IN THE VIDEO? (sorry caps was on). Does the Z6 have the same HDR ability? And how is the D780 better then the Z6?

I didn't want to say anything but in Kraig Adams videos the color is all over the place. You keep calling out his video and they're not that good. Sony cameras can produce good color but Knightsfan pointed out the flaws better then anyone. Tony's test is flawed. He posted random shots but how many Sony pictures did he take and how did he select which one would be in the test? The only way to do that test is to take the same number of photo's with each camera and post all pictures taken, no corrections and post all good and all bad shots. The color in Tony's videos are way off and he used his Sony to film them. I can't believe we are debating Sony color.

No way? You go Canon.

It's not subjective. How can Tony talk about people liking Sony color when his video has horrible un-natural color? Knightsfan - "Older Sony cameras had both issues, and with the amount of correction needed to simply even out hues across the exposure range, and correct for the atrocious WB, the 8 bit footage fell apart. It gets pasty and loses vibrance, especially in the shadows. It loses its "thickness," to use a popular term. And the compressions starts to show blocky hue variance that absolutely ruins skin tones--I imagine this last part can be mitigated with an external recorder to some degree, but no amount of pseudo-10 bit ProRes can account for WB issues and hue shifts on any camera." Thanks for going into detail better then I could ever do.

Can you show us stills from your test? Why did you ask Jungbluth to do the same test you already did? Why would the test have to be "done right" to show line skipping? You seem determined to show "line skipping". Why?

I don't think they can do that and keep AF active. I hope they do announce it soon.

If you color grade (correct) footage from Sony A7III, BP4K, Canon on the same timeline you'll see how far off Sony color is. The sample video at 15:55 in Geralds video tells the story more then all the scopes that he try's to defend the A7III with. Color is not subjective no matter what he says. Gerald also shows outdoor video with purple cast sky from the A7III and claims that's accurate. All color works together and many more layers of issues that mirror-less cameras have to work with to get accurate color. Canon captures color better then Sony and that's a fact. It's not just skin tone but it's all color and color balance, how those colors work together. The drone footage has mor eDR and better color then the A7III in that video. Lol Not sure how you can like Nikon colors better and then say "per Gerald" that A7III colors are highly accurate. His test fail when he shows actual footage.

The A7III color is still off compared to Canon or Nikon. Panasonic has improved it's color but Sony not so much. I've color corrected a lot of Sony footage and it gets old having to save footage that was shot on a Sony.

Panasonic cameras can't AF at all. They also don't have Canon color, etc, etc.

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I downloaded the sample file from the link provided. Are you really putting weight in the chart and text Jungbluth did? Who is "our" in your preliminary test? I'll wait for better test from reliable sources.

People complain about bit depth because it's more then lacking in non cine cameras. You can't praise film and old school cinema and then ask us to forgive today's poor color options.

Nope.

Great looking video. The P6K is the way to go over the M4/3 P4K. Don't look for emotion when that's not what that video is about. You can take mid range detail out when you color grade, you can't add it when it wasn't recorded.

Take a look at the video above your post.

That's not how 8bit vs 10bit works. It's not a pro only quality difference.

The Z6's noise pattern is actual great and I've never seen banding in the shadows? I just tested Z6 4K footage. Where are you getting your information?

It would be nice to know if it's 14+ or just 12. What does the eye test say?

What's RAW 1080p? Dose the Z6 do 4K RAW? I'm confused.

What hardware is changed out by Nikon?