MrSMW

Might/probably is a different result with Sony?

But yes, I need to try Andrew’s LUT as soon as I can but mid season very difficult as it will take some work as I bake in my LUT so will need to bake in a second conversion LUT also and well, not got the time to play with that and thoroughly test at this time.

But I will!

3 hours ago, FHDcrew said:

I’ll have to give this a try on my S9 for an upcoming shoot!  Will let you know my thoughts. 

If you mean the Phantom LUT, I’d suggest Neutral.

Utopia is next ‘best’ but I prefer the Neutral so I can then do my own mild creative grade over the top whereas the others are more a look.

I tried the official Arri Log C3 my S1Rii came with but can’t get it to look as good as the Phantom SOOC even before any twiddling, but maybe that is just me…

If APSC is in the mix, FX30 would be my pick also. 

Lenses would need some consideration but the Sigma 18-50mm (27-75 FF equivalent) optically very good and is tiny.

There is also a bigger and heavier newer lens offering 17-40 (so approx 25-60 FF) but it is f1.8 so better for low light.

4 hours ago, Tulpa said:

That S9 you recommended, would you still be happy after a few wireless receivers were attached? Those would certainly raise the footprint on this small powerhouse.

It will be fine but needs either a baseplate & grip for even basic handling but better a cage from someone like Smallrig.

I have the Smallrig baseplate/grip myself  for my needs but if I was going anywhere rough and for more than a couple of days, the cage for sure as it’s not the most robust camera ever built.

S9 + grip + Sigma 28-70mm f2.8 (42-105mm in APSC mode), Sennheiser MKE 200, mount for monopod. 

If I had the cage instead of the baseplate/grip, I could mount 2 accessories instead of one such as a mini LED. As it is, I just have to swap out the mic for the LED if I need it. 

Extremely compact and lightweight package for it’s capability but neither the body nor the lens have any proper weather sealing so IMO, this is not something to take around the world when you are inevitably going to have some inclement conditions!

I never have and was going to cycle from UK to India once, but in the end flew and backpacked it.

I do have a few trips planned, but skipping the bike for all of them. Probably…

38 minutes ago, ade towell said:

he filmed this

I don't know if I dare click on that because based on just the thumbnail, I want to go and do it.

Tomorrow.

2 hours ago, FHDcrew said:

But the S9 is still totally usable as an A-CAM and can work really well in that capacity if your needs are comparable to mine

Yep and is still currently my A cam.

It’s going to become C cam after the next job, but only because a pair of S1Rii’s will be in the house by then and my future approach of shooting hybrid 2x identical units albeit with a different focal length on each and in 7.2k open gate allowing me to additionally pull the highest res stills I can whilst retaining open gate for 16:9 and 9:16 edits.

If they ever do make a mkII version with nothing more than the S1Rii sensor, I’d be all over that. But they won’t as the S9 body has no fan.

I would like to see a cinema style body a la FX line though…

8 hours ago, Tulpa said:

Does anyone have anything to say about the Fuji XT cameras?

Yes 👋

My name is Simon.

I was a full-time Fuji user from 2011-2020, but I then managed to kick that habit and have been 1537 days Fuji sober.

But seriously, whilst there is not that much difference in body sizes, depending on the body such as a full-frame 6k open gate shooting Lumix S9 is much smaller than some more recent M4/3 options, it’s the lenses where the biggest difference tends to be.

APSC obviously sits between M4/3 and full-frame and I personally think it’s now a bit of a meh option, being somewhat ‘less’ than full-frame and not having the ‘smallest, lightest, fastest’ ability of M4/3.

And when I say fastest, I am referring more to AF speed if that is important to you because from experience, the Olympus/OM options trump Fuji in that department.

I still can’t see past a mint OG (digital) Olympus OM-1 with perhaps a single one & done lens, the 12-40mm f2.8 giving you FF equivalent of 24-80mm.

Plus the action cam.

I would happily set off tomorrow to travel around the world for a year with that Oly option.

4 hours ago, Thpriest said:

Have you used the S1Rii for video? How is it?

Not yet. Last job (this weekend) and next (Tues & Wed), in a 2 job transition phase until the second S1Rii arrives and then I will be properly.

4 hours ago, Thpriest said:

If you do sell the S9 I might be interested

Well, next job after the second S1Rii should have arrived, I'll be making a final final decision, but I think I'll hold on to it purely, as above, spare/gimbal/slow mo as the 2x S1Rii's take over the principal clip capture role.

But if I decided to sell, outside of MPB, I'll sell it to my favourite purchaser of my used gear 😉

4 hours ago, Thpriest said:

The company is called Llano

Yep. Very high quality build. There are 2 charger types and they look almost identical, except the built in power bank version is slightly bigger.

They have options for various brands but the Lumix power bank version is not available yet.

Battery life also seemed better this last job because over 2 days shooting >1500 Jpeg + Raw's, I only went through approx 1.5 batteries, so getting close to 1k stills per battery?

On 8/6/2025 at 11:54 AM, kye said:

It seems like a great way to shoot a film and a spectacular way to remove as much pleasure from the experience as possible

Indeed. These kind of productions seem to be as much about the presenter as they do the subject/location with every scene being, “here’s me on my epic adventure and here’s me talking to an impoverished local and here’s me deeply respectful at the local temple”.

Ie, if it isn’t about you, you can skip all that shit.

Some folks are famous because they are in front of the camera and others from being behind.

49 minutes ago, John Matthews said:

Personally, I'd rather go with the S9 even though I've bad-mouthed it quite a bit

I wouldn’t and I think it’s a great bit of kit.

But no weather sealing to speak of and it’s build I’d say is OK, but it’s not built like an OM-1. Or even close, that thing is built like a tank. 

Despite being a full-frame guy for photo and video, bike packing around the world, M4/3 for sure.

I can’t see past Olympus/OM Systems for this kind of thing.

Stay of execution for the S9…

A. Trade value is trash and I refuse to take that kind of hit, providing…

B. I can get some use out of it and soI  am going to repurpose it as; spare/backup body/lens (with the Sigma 28-70 which I was keeping as a back up lens anyway) dedicated slow mo unit for such times I need such a thing which is every job, but less than 5% of any job. Ditto ‘gimbal-like’ duty. Potential 3rd angle that I recently decided was overkill to have a camera full-time dedicated to. So occasional roles I could have covered mostly, but may as well use the S9 for.

So not quite down to 3 cameras from what was 5 just a few weeks back, but I’ll call it 3.5!

1 hour ago, Ilkka Nissila said:

I can't imagine this working out without traveling as a pair or a group who take on different responsibilities

I can, especially as a one man band photographer filmmaker/videographer who always works solo.

I currently use 2x photo dedicated cameras, 2x video, 1x monopod, 2x tripods, 2x lightstands, 2x lights, up to 6 pieces of audio gear, 1x drone, multiple camera angles at the same time, photo and video at the same time...

There are parts of every job where I use every single one of the above at the same time except 2x photo cameras.

I can have 3 video units rolling, with an audio feed to each, shooting stills with the drone up shooting video straight down statically.

OK, with the drone, it's a frikkin nightmare doing that and last time out I crashed it into a tree landing it 200 metres away...but it can be done.

And that's with single attempt no second chance scenarios.

Now carry all that on a bike plus all the other gear?

Obviously not, but a single robust dedicated camera and either 1 or 2 max lenses, carbon travel tripod, super-lightweight collapsible lightstand and small LED plus audio gear takes up near zero space and battery life is excellent. Tiny compliant drone.

Yes, I can see one person handling this just fine, especially if you are taking your time.

I think all of us to a degree can overthink these things and volume of kit creeps up.

I'm on a reduction mission myself right now in this regard having allowed my own volume of gear to creep up.

I had a kit rationale recently and asked myself, "do you really need 6 lights and when have you ever used 6?" Err, never.

Do I really need that 3rd camera angle for video or is it just overkill and one more thing that actually risks screwing the entire scenario up because you are now juggling too many pieces of kit that all need to be focused, or not focused and rely on AF and is the transmitter for the audio switched on and is the receiver also and...

Sometimes, often even, less can end up being more.

OK, decision made, flipping the S9 and an S5ii plus a lens, for a second S1RII, - it's worth it to me.

4 bodies down to 3 from what was 5 at the start of the year.

9 lenses down to 6, down to 5. I'm hoping to get that down to 3 at some point in the near future...

3 camera brands down to 1 (already happened)...but need more batteries because this S1RII is a power hog.

I'm one of those that normally scoffs at folks reporting crap battery life and can normally exceed the official numbers by a factor of around 3, but with the S1RII, only by about 1.5.

I now have 12 batteries and have 2 on charge at all times and as soon as Llano have the Lumix battery charger with built in power bank available, will have one of those in my bag.

But the power issue aside, I think it's a bit of a no-brainer to me and really it comes down to one single factor more than anything, - e:shutter, - I hate it (for stills) and am going back to mech shutter only.

The Sigma 28-45mm f1.8 is great by the way. Not quite as big or heavy as I expected, or at least no larger or heavier than expected, fast, very well built and no frikkin' extending zoom!! I'm just hoping they make a longer focal length version and then I really would be set for the remainder of my career.

Olympus/OM System OM-1 + 12-35mm f2.8 

Well I have only had the chance to test the official Arri Log vs Phantom's version (that I have been using for the last 2 seasons) and can't beat what I already have.

Been through a load of the official Arri conversion LUT's and all of mine, bought or created and IMO, Phantom beats them all.

So either I am doing something wrong or the Phantom LUT is pretty bloody good!

As the saying goes, "if it ain't broke..." And I'm too busy to explore further so all I can say is LUMIX users, try Phantom LUT's if intensive colour grading is not your thing!

14 hours ago, eatstoomuchjam said:

And being mentioned in the same sentence as the Q is not a win when the sentence is "this damn thing is nearly as expensive as the Q, but isn't even a Leica."

Same as VW pricing a Golf the same as a Porsche and calling that a win. Err no, you have simply over-priced something massively that is not at the same level.

This is not a pissing contest and I only used the Q3 as context, but IMO the Sony only beats the Leica in 3 areas which are; it is smaller and lighter, it has a higher res LCD and it’s AF will be better.

Having said that, the Leica is over-priced IMO, but then you expect that with Leicas.

It’s more a case of when you compare the RX1Riii against the A7CR and the A7RV it really shows how nuts the price is.

Sony have a ton of small lenses and IMO the A7CR at half the price is a MUCH better option. 

The only thing about the A7CR that really bothered me wss they cheaped out on the LCD and tipped me towards the A7RV.

And yes, the A7RV and anything with an interchangeable lens is a slightly different prospect, but still very realistic competitive options.

I hope Lumix bring out something similar, - a rangefinderesque type body, either fixed lens or interchangeable because within L Mount we ‘only’ have manual focus M’s or e:shutter only FP/L’s and the massively expensive Q’s.

S1Rii spec in an FP/Q3 body for around 3k?

As long as they don’t do anything stupid like drop IBIS and preferably has the fully articulated LCD, done deal and dream camera for me.

I quite like the FX2 myself and but for a couple of things, came close to buildings system around it, but when it came down to it, for my needs, L Mount just had more for me at this time.

I’m pretty sure that by the end of the year they (Sony) will have redeemed themselves plus if Nikon make some of the rumored moves with RED as some expect, the momentum will shift once again, as it always does.

Canon seem to be the quiet one right now…

Speaking of Q3's, there are 5x 28mm and 11x 43mm  for sale on MPB.eu, so obviously a lot of folks have bought and off-loaded them.

I *might* be tempted myself with a used 43 next season...

I will have been in the industry 26 years and only owned one Leica, a crop TL and it stopped working so I sent it back for a refund, but the 43 ticks pretty much every box for me other than what it costs.

I might just treat myself if I can make the business case for it stick...

Without being too flippant, tariffs etc aside, I wouldn't buy this new Sony at above 2.5k and even then, I'd rather have the older 'middle' one.

Is anybody actually seriously interested in this camera?

I know there are people out there, (about 3 of them), stating, "I don't want no stinking floppy screen or IBIS, just give me a photo camera", but surely even they, and dentists, will baulk at 5k for one of these?

It's a tiny bit bigger and a little heavier, but a used Leica Q3 can be had for the same money. 8k, flip screen, IBIS, wider and faster lens, is a Leica not a Sony...

I’m not sure what Sony are thinking lately after the FX2 and now this, but neither have been very well received.

We still seem to be in an era where camera companies are only partially listening…and then sticking two fingers up at their customers.

They will probably turn it all around in a few months with their next couple of launches and all those who hopped over to Nikon or Lumix recently, will lurch back to Sony.

Or maybe in our community we only see things from our relatively small bubble and the greater consumer mass couldn’t care less?

10 hours ago, FHDcrew said:

Thinking of selling it and snagging a used canon 16-35 2.8 l or 24-70 l EF

Have you considered the Sigma 18-50 f2.8 even though it is a crop lens, or do you need the full frame?

it’s an exceptional tiny zoom with a 27-75 FF equivalent range and I’m still considering whether when I pick up my second S1Rii if I don’t sell the S9, would this work for me in any viable way, or would I just be trying to keep hold of it?!

4 hours ago, FHDcrew said:

think this S9 will fit my needs perfectly. Electronic shutter doesn’t bother me, as I do video 99.99% of the time

I used it for approx 90% of everything I shot in these last 3 jobs with just the 50mm f1.8 and my own baked in LUT.

The latter still needs a few tweaks, but that is a work in progress...

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16 hours ago, FHDcrew said:

For me the excellent IBIS, full frame, lowlight, 6k open gate etc etc make this camera appealing. I ordered the smallrig cage with a grip; this will be my a-cam

Yes. The imaging capability of the S5ii in a tiny lightweight package.

By far and away, the best run & gun set up I have used to date with the Rode Micro.

However, I will be trading mine as soon as I can afford to do so, along with one more lens (bringing me down from 5 bodies + 9 lenses to 4 bodies and 5 lenses) despite absolutely loving it and for a single reason, - that electronic shutter.

Having down-sized my kit, I need this unit to work as a hybrid and shoot stills also, but low-light + LED’s = banding.

It’s not excessive or super-heavy, but it’s noticeable and what put me off the Sigma FP and FPL when I tested them a few years back.

I think the Nikon Z8/9 is the only current camera that doesn’t really suffer from this but it is a photo issue only.

Well it can be a video issue also as I rediscovered a few weeks back when shooting 30fps subjects with an LED tree behind them and had not noticed I had knocked the shutter speed from 1/100 to 1/125 😏

Need to fix that now in post, if I can…

But S9, whether you keep or sell it, I think it’s fantastic for video.

Tempted to keep it as a backup, but it’s overkill with 4 main units and it would just gather dust, plus as a business, I love it for what it can do, but not simply as an object to own.

2 hours ago, Snowfun said:

Just as a matter of interest. what grading did you suggest for this knowingly faulty kit? 

I couldn’t say for sure as it was 6-7 years ago, but it was mentioned that I believed it had some kind of sensor issue.