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13 hours ago, MrSMW said:

I’ll take a look at QuickTime, - I didn’t know that.

 

Yeah, it's literally just cut and paste haha. 

6 hours ago, PPNS said:

incredible seems a bit overstated. decent maybe

I've seen some incredible looking C100 footage, and I think that it still can produce great images today. I bet if you upscaled it and uploaded it to YouTube most people wouldn't notice it wasn't really 4K.

I usually just use quicktime and use command c. Never looked into software that could do it automatically!

I think it's pretty incredible that a small mirrorless camera has gotten this BUT I take nothing said about it so far seriously because the only people who seemingly have access to it are shills (and while I like watching some of them, they are still shills.) It'll definitely be interesting once real users get their hands on it and try it out, but until then its just a "oh, that could be really neat."

I am, however, intrigued by the possibility of more Lumix/Arri collabs and what the future might hold if they are working together.

15 hours ago, John Matthews said:

The human eye isn't going to get any major upgrades last time I heard. It's the one constant from the early days of image creation to now. The crazy thing about the upgrades is that many cameras being sold have less than 5000 actuation.

Yeah, I think we’ve hit a ceiling in a lot of ways. Most of the "progress" over the last couple of years has been in resolution increases, but visually it hasn’t been a major leap. It’s nothing like the jump from SD to HD, or even HD to UHD. And honestly, most of us aren’t even making full use of UHD, since our TVs usually aren’t big enough to show the difference clearly.

There have been a lot of quality-of-life improvements when it comes to acquiring images, and things like color science have improved. But visually, you can still take a GH5 and, with some effort, get results that look very close to modern cameras.

I can’t say the images I’m getting from my S5 and S5IIX are that much better than what I got from my old GH5. The larger sensor and better color are definite upgrades, but I don’t always take advantage of them. I often shoot at f/4 or higher because I don’t want extremely shallow depth of field. And while the color is nicer out of the box, it mostly just saves time. I was still able to get the look I wanted from the GH5 with a bit more work.

1 hour ago, eatstoomuchjam said:

and unsubscribing from the YouTube which has become an increasingly formulaic slog of Chris and Jordan reviewing products that they clearly don't give a shit about - and the weekly podcast where they act like smug celebrities, even though 99.9999% of people neither care who they are nor care about anything they've said.

I always liked Chris and Jordan. I know they have their critics, chief among them Andrew, and I agree with a lot of the criticism, but I always enjoyed watching them. Their banter was always enjoyable, and even when they were with the Camera Store, things like their review of the GH5 matched the same thoughts I had when using the camera and I watched it after I'd purchased it as I tried to consume every video I could to learn how to get the most out of it.

Since going to PetaPixel though, they do seemed checked out in most of their videos. Even when Chris doesn't seem to care about what they are reviewing, he seems to try to make the best of it and have fun. Jordan though went from an active participant to often just filming himself at his computer talking lifelessly for a minute or two before throwing back to Chris. Sometimes he doesn't even do that and Chris will talk about video features.

Never listened to the podcast, admittedly, so can't comment on how they come off on it.

1 hour ago, FHDcrew said:

Honestly you are so right. I too have noticed how rapidly people are hyping up Panasonic as they once did Sony. And all at once. And 1/3 of these YouTubers are brand ambassadors for LUMIX. Don’t get me wrong the current crop of lumix cams are amazing and they in a sense do deserve the praise they are getting…literally that good. But still…

Yeah, as a Lumix user I am biased towards them and I strongly believe that they are a better tool than what Sony and Canon are offering, but if this newfound praise is because of marketing then that's a real disappointment. I want authenticity when watching, reading, and conversing with people about these cameras, not marketing hidden as opinion.

It's one thing when you go into something knowing it's marketing, and we should all probably assume that everyone is just trying to sell us something at this point, but it sucks that we have it. It'd be really nice to have some authenticity.

Like even Justin is clearly enjoying this attention. I suppose he's at least honest about it, but I really just wanna geek out about cameras and equipment, even if this is kinda entertaining watching them fight.

11 minutes ago, FHDcrew said:

Facts. Still some gems out there. I still love Nigel Barros’ content and he has a second channel now haha

 

(side-note, pretty funny how good the gh5 looks given many YouTubers dismiss it now lol. I’m realizing that a good 60% of the reason modern cameras seem to look so much better than cameras from 2014-2018 is because the skills of those reviewing cameras has gotten so much better. Nigel’s footage looks amazing. Obviously, there are absolutely valid reasons to upgrade still. But I’m realizing image quality is not as bad as I’m tempted to think on older cameras)

Virtually any camera released in the last 10 years, if used with care and consideration, will look good. And ten years from now the GH5 will still be able to generate lovely images, assuming there are some still out there that work! The pace in which people upgrade cameras is crazy to me, it just seems pointless and wasteful.

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I forgot to add, the Craterr video information makes me think that it might be related to several "creators" switching to Lumix recently. Armando and Cam are two of them who've switched and become VERY PRO Lumix, so it certainly makes me go "hmm." As much as I love Lumix and believe they are absolute powerhouses, it was and is very suspicious how many people were suddenly making the switch. 

21 minutes ago, eatstoomuchjam said:

I'm not sure about the start, but those two videos seem to be a response to this pissing match on another one of Justin's videos.

It is really funny to see Cam spazzing and claiming he wasn't paid for videos when he got thousands of dollars in free gear as well as the views/revenue that come from day 1 launch as well as the associated affiliate marketing revenue.

I also hadn't heard of Craterr before. Sounds like a real 💩 of a platform, designed to make YouTube reviews even more insufferable.

I normally like Justin, and agree with most of what he said in his video, but reading those comments from both of them, I feel embarrassed for both. Justin should have stuck to the higher ground instead of resorting to homophobia.

I don't know what this was all in response to, but it's entertaining (and interesting) none the less

9 hours ago, Defleur said:

Thank Islam you are here. I saw videos of anti-fa throwing rocks at police cars & burning them & looting stores.
But thank Mohammed, you are here to tell us we didn't see what we saw. 
 

THERE ARE NO RIOTS IN LA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Do not believe any video which shows you riots in LA.

 

I think you misunderstand a few isolated incidents for riots. Anyone that lives in Los Angeles will tell you things are fine, yet someone from London posts on the internet about how crazy things are there and that people are rioting. Who is right, the people there on the ground or the people who wish to use a few isolated incidents to try and taint a legitimate protest and the people who buy the narrative without any critical thinking?

7 hours ago, Sebastien said:

But how do you achieve that, provided it is a 4/3 lens without an aperture ring (like my olympus 17 & 45 mm 1.8 and the 12-32 kit lens)?

You should be able to change it with the touch screen.

When I had the GX85 I'd generally set the shutter and aperture and then leave ISO on auto when I was "running and gunning". I'd keep the shutter to the 180 degree rule, leaving only the aperture for me to adjust. Usually the camera did a good job adjusting the ISO. When it would occasionally get too noisy I'd add a little noise reduction in post and it'd be fine. I really only had that problem though when using zooms; the 1.7 primes (and even the 14.5mm 2.5) generally let enough light in that it wasn't a problem most of the time.

Great camera. I regret selling mine, though not having a mic input was always a bummer. If the S9 weren't out there I'd probably have bought another one, but I'll probably end up getting the S9 when the prices comes down even more.

Took too long for me to edit my post! 

For nearly 10 years it has felt like Sony has had an impenetrable wall around the YouTube/influencer market, especially from like 2018 on. It's weird that we're seeing more people being more critical of them and some even defecting to other brands. 

Part of it you can chalk up to other brands playing catch up when it comes to working with the YouTuber/influencer types. You've definitely seen a lot more of that from Lumix and Nikon lately. But still, it makes you wonder if something has changed with Sony's marketing strategy, because I don't think that's enough for these people to start switching or being more critical of Sony unless Sony decided it would cater to them less. 

I'm a Lumix user. I think a lot of the criticism they've gotten has been overblown, especially the rolling shutter nonsense during the S1Rii release, but I also don't see too much in their recent releases that would have made me think that people would be ditching Sony for them. But in the last 6 months I've noticed more and more people are, and that criticism of Sony has been popping up more and more. It's really hard for me to believe it's just because these folks were just so blown away by the S1Rii and the S1ii releases, even though I think both are decent/good cameras (even if, in the S1ii's case it's a bit overpriced.)

7 hours ago, ND64 said:

It's interesting to me that there are a growing number of YouTubers switching to Lumix. 

Armando has been a long time Sony shooter, he even references people calling him a Sony fan boy, but here he bashes the camera (which he hasn't used), has generally unflattering things to say about Sony, and mentions that he has switched to Lumix. He also teases that they've got some exciting things down the pipeline. 

Now, all of this should be taken with a grain of salt. But it's an interesting development.

The EVF is great. 

I don't agree that this isn't for us, as I think a lot of us long for the old analog experience. I also think that it could also appeal to the kids buying up old point and shoot cameras looking for a more authentic, analog look. I just think it kinda fails at both. 

The film mode is actually the most intriguing part to me, but it feels too limiting (in the wrong ways) and gimmicky. I think for that mode to truly work you need an authentic experience; instead it just seems like you're going through the motions. That really breaks the immersion.

Whether it's a love letter to those of us that long for the old analog days or a cash grab meant to appeal to Zoomers, $850 is a lot of money for what little this camera gives you. I suppose there are those who'll argue that's the point, but I don't think giving people this kind of experience necessarily means you have to give them less while charging a premium. 

It's a reminder that we're very lucky and have also probably hit a wall when it comes to image processing when a 2015 camera still looks so good 10 years later. 

2 hours ago, eatstoomuchjam said:

I've heard a few times that the sensor in the A7 IV is pretty fantastic, though I haven't used it myself.  It makes perfect sense to put it in a cine-style body!

Less sense to give it a mechanical shutter.

Even less sense to do it... now?  The A7 IV came out in 2021.  Why wait 4 years to release the cine equivalent?

And while I know that AI AF on the specsheet is AI Autofocus which has nothing to do with AI and everything to do with actually-useful ML, describing anything as "AI AF" automatically makes me not want it.  😉

Gotta squeeze the last juice out of the fruit. There are a lot of FX3 users itching to buy a new camera, and either the FX3II isn't coming soon or they plan to raise the price significantly. 

4 hours ago, Andrew Reid said:

Has anyone noticed the colour science looks rather good from the S1R II and S1 II.

Honestly the color science from Lumix recently is one of the more underrated things they have going on. It might actually be my favorite currently, but people don't really talk about it much.

The only thing that makes this camera not of interest to me is the price tag. It actually seems like a quality release, but that's just not a competitive price for me at least.

My first thought would be to upgrade from the S5II X to the S1II, and then upgrading my two S5s to S5IIs. But It'd make more sense to keep the S5II X and then upgrade the two S5s to the S5II for less than what a S1II would cost me.

Still, it's a decent camera. I hope it does well.

I don't think Lumix gets nearly the credit they deserve for everything they throw into these cameras. You could argue that they almost put too much in. The codecs, frame rates, and aspect ratio options could be considered overwhelming by some folks. 

I think it's a good release, just a bit overpriced. $2500-2800 would be a much more competitive price point. I imagine it'll be under $3000 soon enough. 

I'll stick with my S5s and S5II X though. 

I do like the new lens. I like that it's size. But I think I'll stick with the 20-60 kit lens. That 20mm focal length is really nice to have. 

Feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone where Gerald releases a glowing review of it, while Lumix users are stressing out about it before using it. It's usually the opposite!

$3500 is a lot to ask for this camera. I really don't see a ton of reasons to go with it over the S5ii/X. I don't think it's a bad release, but that's not a very competitive price point. 

Still, I'd like to hear from folks who've used it once it hits real users hands.