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Hilarious! Well done Andrew!!

Surely a curved sensor for all lenses would be a better fit on average than having a flat sensor for all lenses?

+1 for the advice from @Nikkor to shoot test stills to check if it's the lens or the camera. If it's the camera it might be a setting changed, like the Sharpening or other adjustment?

I always thought that they removed the Star in order to force people to buy the larger (more expensive) recorders and that they could do that because they were really the only game in town for RAW/prores at this price point, and that anyone who wanted those codecs would want them badly enough to just go along with it. However, now there are lots of cameras doing these things internally they have less of a monopoly on these maybe there will be some incentive for them to re-release that lower-end option. I know it would make a bunch of people happy.

And don't forget that Panasonic have a history of adding modes and unlocking things with firmware updates...

That wasn't on your list!

It will be a while, so buy a temporary camera to use in the meantime. Make sure its well specc'd and robust so it lasts long enough to fill that gap.

+1 for there being limitations to focal lengths, or at least if you're using them to look at things that are far away. I started having difficulties around 1000mm equivalent, so similar experience. This may or may not apply to the OPs situation..

Depending on what camera you're using, some modern lenses act like they're parfocal because the camera compensates throughout the range. The XC10 is like this and it works quite well as long as you're zooming slowly. If you do anything fast then it struggles to keep up.

Absolutely agree. The one thing I've learned from shooting family videos is that the moments you're after happen without warning and tend to be interactions between the kids and the outside world. This means that you need to always be rolling, and need to be filming everything so you can get the action/reaction shot sequences. From that point of view...... TAKE MY MONEY!!!!

Is that where the majority of ARRI footage ends up? Genuine question - not trying to be rude or anything - I don't have any visibility of this part of the industry. I would have thought that Alexas were too expensive for 'free' distribution unless it was advertising materials, and that they'd mostly be used for movies and TV behind paywalls or at least licensed by broadcasters who pay with advertising revenues. These cameras sure seem expensive to me!

Cool! So is this a DIY rig then? I watch lots of 'maker' youtubers and I think this might be the first intersection of CAD and cameras I've seen

Interesting. I watched some of the wolfcrow review of the LF (I know some people here don't like him, but he has more experience of the industry than I do) and he said that the feedback from rental houses was that the cameras with larger than S35 sensors just aren't that popular. He suggested that the manufacturers might have overestimated lots of people would be coming from FF DSLR revolution to cinema cameras, but who knows.

That's a pretty tidy setup considering how many things are there.. cool

Ok, here's a quick comparison. I didn't do spot WB or metering, but it was in Aperture priority mode, manual WB, and nearly identical framing with no backlighting, so this is probably a reasonable test. I compared it to the Super Takumar as it has a similar FOV and aperture range. For reference, the focus was in the middle of the frame, which is the grass seed just above the lip of the glass on the left. I have essentially cropped off the bottom and right of the frame in order to give a complete diagonal from centre-to-corner, although in this case there probably wasn't much point as there's nothing in focus in that part of the frame. Anyway, the grass seed in the top-left is more than half-way to the edge of the frame.

360 video is shoot-now-frame-later but is low quality, so it depends on your style. I'm interested in shoot-now-frame-later but the quality isn't there.. yet. It's about film-making style.

The more lenses you have the safer you are from just putting one on the camera and leaving the house to go shoot something!

I keep my GH5 + lenses in a drawer and it's pretty tightly packed in there, and I keep pulling out the 135mm or 200mm, using them, then wondering why they won't fit back in the drawer. Then I have that "ah ha" moment where I set them back to infinity focus and put them back, then I have that "oh dear" moment when I realise I do that every time and still don't remember.. ???

Non-techie types do like using their phones, but "there is no zoom" is also something non-techie types who have a bit of interest in photography understand and care about. Don't confuse people not knowing about cameras or tech with people not knowing about what makes a good image or what they like. We are drowning in photos and video and therefore live in the most visually literate time in all of human history. When in doubt, go for usability and durability, then just tell them to shoot everything and not worry about the camera.

DO IT!!! DO IT!!! I mean, err, you know, if you want to ??? Cool about the 1.2L. I look forward to your tests

Ouch! I guess it depends on what stills lenses you're buying. For me $1000 is a crazy amount to spend on a single lens.

Delicious! what a word to use!! I think I will adopt that word as my goal for all images and colour grading The more we analyse those two images, the more confused I get about what is going on with that lens.. what other tests should I run to better understand what's going on?

If you struggle in post then upload some clips and others can have a go and we can all compare our results

I hadn't hear of them either. Whenever I'd dipped into the cinematographer world I've always been astounded by the price for lenses - they're normally 5-10x the price of similar stills lenses. Is it a rule that cine lenses exist in a kind-of non-overlapping price range? Or are we looking at the higher-end of stills lenses when the lower end of cine lenses overlaps them in price and quality?

One lens short? No worries - I'll mail you the Petri ASAP!