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Not as yet. If I was to speculate, then as it doesn't have an EVF and is modular so the grip is extra etc then the base unit will have to be well below an existing FF mirrorless like an S1 that has those things to appeal to consumers? I'm going to be bold and say £1299 I wish it had an EVF add on option like the Leica T/TL though. But even as it stands, this is as close as it gets to a full frame original BMPCC.

Man alive that is compact for full frame. And as for this And it seems they've got a new heat sink system as well Looks like Sigma weren't just there to make up the numbers when it came to making cameras in the L mount alliance ! Seriously impressive. There are a lot of Leica T/TL/CL owners awaiting those three lenses with open wallets. Leica will no doubt be currently finding ways to stop them being compatible

I'm hoping its an embedded video of Rick Astley that triggers when you select RAW in the video menu. There is certainly enough space for it in there !

Have an out take from your 10 minute custom test shoot in 2:1 with a bit more of a mute palette then Some blended diffusion to tone the sharpness down a bit as well.

It could well be this, as @sanveer suggested too. I'm currently running a compare on it. Mind you, if its for 3 cameras, then why would it be 4.5x bigger.....Lets start a "Panasonic About To Launch APS-C Camera" rumour instead

Or less exposure if you buy the NDs as well Are they going to do a version for the original Mavic Pro as well, as I get the feeling that sales of the newer version may have slowed a lot since more restrictions have come into place about where you can fly drones so the original would be a bigger market? Not that it looks like they're having problems selling this one !

If Leica hadn't have totally fucked everyone over by not supporting the MC21 I could have answered that question as it was on my list to get a cheap used SA mount one !

Its a different structure with the S1R but along similar lines and yes the point I was (badly) making was that there is possibly more than one upgrade in this firmware that may become available later. Of course, the additional loaders and post boot pointers could equally be to activate the bricking of the camera routine when people have attempted to hack dodgy serial numbers in to it

Right, I'm back with the results. The bad news is that in a photo aspect ratio its, erm, quite noticeable The good news (aside from the fact it is sharp) is that in 2.35:1 you can get away with the worst of it if you go for a centre crop And when you aren't shooting white(ish) walls, it makes reasonably OK pictures.

Nah, I'm just an infinite number of monkeys with an infinite number of 35mm lenses. Law of averages says that I'll eventually get something in focus and composed properly. Thanks to the wonders of the MC21 SA>L adapter and some electrical tape over the contacts I can actually try that for you on the SL just to see how much it covers. Be right back

I have the 30mm 1.4 APS-C ART version for the Sigma SD Quattro, which these ones from a few months ago were taken on. I use it for product shots and it is a good all rounder. I'm definitely going to have to do a merry go round shot when I go back to the UK as the place I'm going pretty much has an identical one. If I take the SL then I can use the F mount Sigma 35mm f1.4 ART on it so that we can have a true comparison !

I don't have an S1 but out of curiosity I downloaded the v1.2 and v1.1 bin files. I wasn't particularly surprised that they would be different sizes but hadn't expected the v1.2 file to be 4.5x bigger than v1.1.... Upon, erm, closer inspection, v1.2 contains multiple loaders and post boot references which might suggest that there is more to come in terms of additional functionality via additional license fees. Let the RAW speculation commence

I've never used the Canon but I do have an F mount version of the Sigma 35mm f1.4 ART that in an EF mount might give you enough saving to help build a bigger set of Nikkors. There are quite a lot of comparisons around but I think this one is pretty interesting from a long time user of the Canon. https://johncarnessali.com/camera-lens-tests/sigma-35mm-1-4-art-lens/6141

Unfortunately, I like them in a very unhealthy Rick James kind of a way.

I'm still waiting on them to make a Foveon cinema camera so maybe they can do both !

I had a quick look at the group for it and once I'd got past the 28294 B&W images one contributor has submitted of his girlfriend I've got to say this particular image might have had me looking on eBay if I didn't already own enough 35mm lenses to start my own travelling exhibition.

I imagine Sigma were not impressed in the slightest at the stunt Leica pulled with the MC21. I know I wasn't! Its a fine balance as well with this stuff because the MC21 was very important as people are naturally cautious about buying into a camera range with a new (to them at least) mount and good EF compatibility would have been a boost, particularly with the paucity of affordable native L mount lenses at launch. With this new upgrade and native Sigma L mount lenses shortly to become available, the S cameras will get a big boost but still can't help thinking the staggered timing of these releases to get these ducks in a row has been an avoidable hindrance in getting them established.

I suspect its more political than technical. With the MC11 they only had to satisfy themselves whereas with the MC21 they have to satisfy their other two partners in the L alliance, both of whom want to sell their own lenses. Leica threw their toys out of the pram completely and won't entertain the MC21 being on their cameras at all and I would suspect the compromise with Panasonic is that Sigma favour compatibility with the SA mount version of it rather than the EF version. Sigma always maintained that the MC11 would only work with their own EF lenses rather than Canon or other manufacturers yet we all know that to be quite a conservative stance! In the case of the MC21 perhaps that stipulation has to be seen to be more literal. When Sigma release the L mount versions of the SD Quattros it will be interesting to see how much better the compatibility of the MC21s are on those.

Nice. It will be North West coast and is very similar to your edge of shore shots actually. It will likely be on the mystery camera as I will be in desperate need to pad out my entry! It varies so its best doing an "x vs y" google search for the specific lenses. In general, a lot of them do share the same optics but the further complication is the vintage of them and the variance that can bring in terms of the life they've led. The only sure way I suppose is to buy mint versions of both, test them and sell the loser!

It was around £200 so yeah you got quite the bargain there! Nice shot. I do like an old school boardwalk. I might shoot a UK one when I go back in a few weeks for comparison! Could be a bluff though and the "mystery" element is how on earth I made a RED look that cheap!

I was in a used gear shop in Tokyo and they had a 35mm f2, a 50mm f2 and an 85mm f2 at really decent prices and I was thinking "right, I'm going to have an f2 prime set then"....and then I saw the price of the 28mm and 135mm and the moment passed I wouldn't rule out me being able to make it sing like Britney without Autotune by the way.

Which particular one is it?

Its unfortunate that it produces more noise than an AC/DC gig.

Video grabs from a mystery noisy camera with a mystery unsharp lens

Absolutely !