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Its certainly got the makings of a great investigative documentary. I like a great investigative documentary. Like this one called "Stop At Nothing" about the con trick that Lance Armstrong pulled on the whole world and which he sustained by the bullying tactic of suing everyone that he knew was too weak financially to stand up to him with what they knew. They were all written off and derided publicly by Armstrong and his acolytes as jealous or bitter or conspiracy theorists or even all three. The biggest scorn was reserved for those who had been privy to the biggest secret which was when he admitted to his doctor just after brain surgery in 1996 that he had taken performance enhancing drugs. People like Stephanie Mcilvain. I've cued it up to the part where the allegations are discussed about the pressure she came under from both Armstrong himself but also her employer at the time. And in particular, her ultimate boss at that employer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpb-VBNoEC0&t=3958

The rebuttal to the legitimacy of RED's patents from Apple's imaging scientist might as well have said "In summary...This is like Vanilla Ice claiming he owns the rights to Under Pressure"

Ignore the date of December on the video, as this was shot at NAB 2006, and purports to be the earliest video of a public interview with RED about the camera. Fast forward to IBC in September 2006 and I've found this video of the Q&A with the, erm, "Leader Of The Rebellion" and I've cued this up right when someone asks the question about the compression.... Prior to this section, where REDCODE definitely is described, he was actually inviting people to get in line the next day at their booth to pre-order the camera and saying how they had to that point had 400+ orders for it already. I placed my order based on the NAB reveal where the info was slightly more nebulous but RED always used the caveat that everything was subject to change which undoubtedly covers them in terms of what we ordered but less so I would believe in terms of the patent aspect?

If the price is under $5K if you own a Hydrogen (i.e. you need a Hydrogen to make the whole package under $5K) then that implies the camera is $5K minus the price of the Hydrogen ($1295) hence it will be $3700 ? However it may well be a special deal for Hydrogen owners to compensate them for being early adopters and that only they can buy it for $5K, in which case it could easily be $8-9K as a fresh purchase. They have done this in the past obviously with things like EPIC X only being available at a certain price to RED ONE owners etc.

On the media and monitors, certainly

The sunglasses that Lance used to wear you mean? https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2014-07-02/sponsor-turned-blind-eye-to-lance-armstrongs-doping/5564074

I think the appearance of the Pocket 6K has probably forced their hand to get images out of it being used for shooting a bit quicker than they wanted (the pic is from Steven Soderbergh) hence them having to use the Atomos. The kudos of getting Soderbergh to tweet it was slightly undermined by him getting the name wrong and calling it the Kimono. Could be worse, he could have called it the Komode. The last thing they need at the moment is the connotation of it being something they've been sat on for ages that turns out to have a load of shit inside.

Can't see a Hydrogen (maybe the shot was taken on it) as I thought that was going to be how they did the UI?

Its in the piece.

Vlad changed the "Bayer array to RGB" patent into the "Buyer will pay to KGB" patent.

I can't wait for the final Scooby Doo style unmasking.

The hint at the end about what awaits in Part 4 might well actually top it !

And make sure you don't forget your Zippo for when you are setting up.

One option as you are using an mft camera are the Olympus body cap lenses as you should be able to get pretty flat, although the grip will limit just how flat. The 15mm would be the one for the FOV that you are after but I would definitely try and have a go with one to make sure you are OK with the performance. Another option would be the Osmo Pocket as you can get that butted up right to the grille and the big advantage is that you can remote monitor it with a phone so it makes it easier to set up. The FOV is wide but closer to what you are after than that of a GoPro. The other one would be a 1" compact like the Panasonic LX10/15 which you could mount slightly above and use the optical zoom to get through the grille. As with the Osmo, the advantage there is that you can use the phone app to monitor as well as control the lens. The LX10/15 can take the Cinelike D hack as well so you could match it better to the GH5 if you are using Cinelike D on that too.

Whoah...hang on there you two. You are doing forums wrong if you agree to agree. Splitting hairs, clinging on to a semantic rock and repelling all boarders...that is what it is all about. Now, lets get this back on course and start trading petty insults.

Yeah, I mentioned his latest video in the BM thread last night. If what he is saying about the patents stands up (and I have no idea either way) then it will be interesting to see the response from companies that have fallen foul of infringing them. The whole "Made In The USA" aspect should at least no longer be a stick to beat the likes of Kinefinity and Z Cam with any more.

A re-post of my findings from another thread but I have found these Sony cards to be a currently available card that works with both my Pocket and Micro. It is the UZ designation that is important to ensure that you have the right one. Here is a link to the exact one that I have https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00YOKOJOU/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

Erm... The new video from Jinnitech thats come out tonight about those patents has...well... Obviously have to be careful regarding discussing anything about RED in that regard but if (and its a big if) its as he claims then I'll just have to use this image again

Oh well, at least this is a quicker way to find out none of them work So thats G80 and GX80 done and dusted. Hopefully we can get something back from owners of the newer cameras.

By doing nothing until after the S1H, the Sigma FP and the ProResRAW update for the Nikon Z6 are released? Or in the case of the last one, waiting for Elvis to re-appear saying "Fooled ya !" whichever comes first.

By which I presume you mean "can you get the booze bottles out and do a comparison with your Samyang 85 f1.4 and the 7Artisans that we all know you will be too weak to resist buying when it arrives" Physically, its slightly smaller and about 20% lighter than the Samyang. For using it on my SL, the overall dimensions will be much smaller as the L to M path adapter wise is much smaller than the L to EF path. And its obviously a little bit faster but a little bit less reach.

I felt this was the most likely explanation too. Unless RED are just re-housing a job lot of unsold EOS-RPs and adding RAW Be interesting to see how they react to the Z Cam releasing Z Raw today

The sort of announcement that makes RED's lawyers do this : Here is a very quick clip that someone has done with it presumably straight after downloading it judging by the timing.