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I admire your ability to manage so much gear at a wedding!

Yeah, I’m in the same boat…for now at least. That could change when the offers start!

I’ve started shooting mostly in open gate on my S5ii. It’s really very handy. If I had 6K 50p open gate I’d probably use it 80% of the time.

I think the price hike is almost everywhere, not just the camera market. Just look at cars over the last 5 years. The Dacia Sandero used to have a model that cost around 8000€, now the cheapest is 14000€. Admittedly they have improved but for nearly double the price? As for housing it’s mental. There’s inflation everywhere other than wages. If wages were inline with goods price hikes then we probably wouldn’t be complaining (as much!). At least that’s what I make of it.

Depends on your needs and budget at the end of the day. Of course I'd like it to be cheaper and I think it will be quite soon.

When comparing to an FX3 for example, which is 4.482,18 €. Hopefully by spring the combo will be around 3500€ which is when I might look to buy them.

I don't see the S9 discounts in Spain but the new S1ii packs are out: 3.850,52 € for the S1ii and the 24-60 2.8. That looks a reasonable offer.

It was the GX80. Had it from the beginning but sold it when I moved to FF. Bought it again, still loved it but sold it again because I can't justify 2 systems. The GX80 and Voigtlander 17.5 0.95 was a great combo.

Lovely shot. I think they are all great, I've had the S1, S5 and S5ii. But I can't deny that the first generation just had something nicer about it, for want of a better word. Saying that, the S5ii has a great image and the handling is much improved.

I think that all the S line has produced very nice images and colours. I say that as someone who has noticed that the S5ii is not quite at the level of the original S1 and S5 but it’s still great.

I think the price is the only real problem. If they were both 400-500€ cheaper they’d probably sell a lot. Maybe this tariff stuff has altered the prices and Lumix was simply unlucky as the are the first to have to consider this with a big new launch. I also agree that a 800-1000€ GX80 update with unlimited 4k 50p and maybe open gate would sell like hotcakes.

Call it 'Arry Log

What I haven't seen yet is a bundle price with the new lens.

I suppose it will depend on the Sony's price. Normally they are a fair bit higher. The FX3 was 4700€ (although it came with the XLR mount). The Lumix comparable XLR mount (not 32bit) is around 400€ new. So we'd still see an 800€ or so difference.

It actually looks almost perfect for me (being a Lumix user). I think I'll stick with my 2 S5iis until the S1ii is on offer next year. Then I'll probably sell a S5ii and the Sigma 28-70 and get a S1ii and 24-60 combo.

Hopefully because price is key (although I'm not sure if they raised the price in the EU etc as well). If we are talking 300€ cheaper than the original quotes, so 2500€ and 3200€, then it becomes quite interesting.

In the comments there are some links etc. Buuuuut, it all seems to have been translated from Chinese so there is probably a lot of room for error!

Looking at the rumours on other sites I think tomorrow might be a lot more positive than some think.

As i'm a freelancer and can discount VAT I buy most of my kit new. Each country and market is different. The Sony A7iv is going for around 1800€ and the Lumix S5ii for around 1300€ on the second hand market here in Spain. That's a decent lens price difference. When I bought the S5ii 2 years ago I got it with the Sigma 28-70 2.8 for 2590€. Discount the VAT and that's hard to compete with in my eyes. I looked at buying Sony but to buy a similar kit (2 cameras, 24-105 f4, 28-70 2.8 and 3 1.8 primes) was double the price.

I keep coming back to price and value. The Sonys are about 50% more expensive. Whilst the price of the new Lumixes seems a bit high for me at present, I'm sure that within a year the have great offers or bundles on all of the new cameras. That's when i usually pick them up. So far Lumix has offered me unbeatable value. I hope that continues.

Specs etc only tell us so much. Let’s see them at work. The thing I don’t really understand is whether they’ll have FF 4k 50p. If they don’t that would be a fatal mistake.

https://latam.connect.panasonic.com/mx/es/productos/lumix/lumix-s1iie According to this it looks pretty interesting although I’m still not too clear on the difference between the models other than a white box.

I'd prefer a compact 24-60 over the 28-70 I have. I find those first 4mm much more useful than the last 10mm

Anyway, I'm interested in this. I think I'm ready for an S line with a dedicated video/photo button, top LCD and EVF and no crop.

The rumours are all over the place!!! Who knows what we’ll get. My same wishes apply. 6k 50 no crop, super 3 way lcd and top evf. Faster processing. Happy for a video centric camera but looking for under 3000€ and video/photo switch