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Riiiight, because your comment doesn't come off at all like Sony fanboyism. You might have had a case if you were using an A9 series (rest aren't even weather sealed). But the A6300... better than Canon.. for sports really? Cmon. The joke of the LCD rear display with less than 1M px (not even half of EOS R's resolution) requires that monitor on top. Lack of ergonomics means you need that side handle. That camera has worst RS than EOS R (more than double in FHD), overheats after like 15mn, AF nowhere near DPAF, no touchscreen, no IBIS/IS, weak battery life etc.. Yeah what a pro solution over Canon that camera is ? Better not rain during the game.. meanwhile Super Bowl last year: RIP CANON ?

EF-S is not Canon's Super35 4K ready professional lens lineup, this is: PROFESSIONAL VIDEO SOLUTIONS | CINEMA LENSES Very expensive for the most part but you can always rent. There are also many EF Super35 cine lens options from the top third-parties (Zeiss, Xeen etc) . Sony E-mount also have a good range of pro cine native & third party lenses. Fuji's X-mount only has two MK pro cine zoom lenses. The regular photo lenses aren't that great for video imo (pulling focus manually isn't easy). It would be nice of course if they did develop a cine cam and added some fast cine primes to MK series.

The way I see EOS R is a great 30MP FF stills & FF FHD camera with a cropped 4K mode. I rarely shoot 4K handheld on any camera so it’s mono/tripod/gimbal for 4K which tend to minimize RS. Unless you need ultra wide angles something like the Sigma 18-35mm F1.8 works great for standard needs in 4K. Then my 50mm primes turn into 85’s..etc Not trying to make any excuses for Canon, I’d love no crop / good RS in 4K but I guess you just learn to workaround issues.. while we await the higher end model! I do understand though why other system users wouldn’t fathom switching given the limitations. The battery life is pretty good though, close to DSLR. With the grip and 2 batteries fitted I haven’t run into any problems even on full day shoot.

Well like I said YMMV lol.. I’m still choosing to stick with them as a complete eco-system (DSLR/Mirroless/Cine cam/Lenses) they are kinda still the only game in town. For video, the cine camera options are what guide me for A-cams and the C100/200/300II are still by far my favorite under $10K cameras.

Well people can whine, hate, cry, scratch their heads all they want at Canon, they remain the number one camera company in the world so they must be doing a thing or two right! Other than brand recognition, color science, DPAF, UI etc.. they entice users through their lens system and there are plenty of people that still want access to that L series and probably soon the evolution which is RF. Canons objective is to sell their lenses (which are also the most sold in the world) and so indeed a lower end model is a quick priority after putting out the mid-range model.. With that perspective, I don’t really see what the big fuss is about: Canon are putting out a lower end model follow-up. The higher-end model could be the ticket though, rumors are saying SD+CFast & joystick return.. so an improved FF 4K60p 1DX2 with C-log, 10-bit & no crop could be that no compromise Canon camera videographers have been waiting for. Start saving though

Indeed EOS R IQ is what keeps me happy, Canon still provide the most robust FF internal codec and DPAF is still king of the hill. Z6 can’t even do internal log and when you go external the AF goes haywire so that’s a major fail IMO. A73? Solid specs but painful shooting experience & post can be a PITA. GH5S? Wack AF. Poor choice for stills. P4K: No AF. No stills. XT3. Now that’s a dope camera. Better hope not to get a lemon though. YMMV of course and I’m probably biased. Anyways maybe I’m wrong about the “RP”. Really isn’t much info on it yet. Canon could surprise us in a desperate attempt to regain some shares in the video market.

Hey don’t shoot the messenger! I’m just telling you what I believe is the most likely scenario from Canon, not what I’d personally want. If you are looking for something better than EOS R then quite obviously IMO you gotta wait.. for the higher end model.

Wait & see, unless I missed something all the rumors said was 26MP & no touchbar. But Canon isn’t silly, they know how to segment and are not going to give a lower end model better (video) specs than the R. The 26MP is probably the same 26MP sensor as in the 6D2 (just like the 30MP on the R echoes the 5DIV). So what does this indicate? Probably no 4K! Or maybe 4K with no DPAF (a la M50) Other possible limitations could be: No touchbar, no flip-out screen, no top LCD, no C-Log, no ALL-I codec, no 10-bit out, less AF points, less DR.. etc Again I highly doubt the RP will have anything better for video than the R. Canon are just applying the same formula & release strategy than their 6D, 5D, 1DX2 FF models imo: mid market first, then lower end, then pro. Plenty to hate about Canon but nobody is going to end up crying.. you guys sure like to jump the gun!

I'm super happy with the RodeLink Filmmaker kit. Great sound quality, has never failed me. Like that you can have standard spare batteries. This Senny kit is very interesting though for sure as it's tiny and can be switched to XLR and can be setup as a wireless interview mic or even wireless boom mic! Pretty amazing stuff..

As someone who has family and spends a lot of down time in one of the most popular areas on the coast of the south of France it kind of amuses me to hear that, as people who live down there all year are always complaining about it and dreaming about going to exotic places (well for them) like Brazil, Hawaii or Australia etc.. Basically, my answer to this thread is the grass is always greener on the other side. That doesn't mean you shouldn't chase that dream (especially if you are feeling miserable where you are) but it can sometimes be more a fantasy or an illusion. I know for many visual creatives & electronic musicians here in the EU, Berlin has long been considered the mecca. I've got quite a few friends that moved there and now are back home (including our own Andrew Reid i believe). Now working/living in several places that's definitely an entertaining idea which I'm considering myself mid-term. Kind of hard to pull off though.

I don't wanna belittle Nikon's efforts but you can get internal RAW today for $1300. And internal 10-bit for $1500. A Nikon Z6 + FTZ adapter + Ninja V will run you almost $3K. That's second hand FS5 money. We're also talking ProRes Raw which has its limitations. And furthermore who really wants to use an external recorder on a mirrorless? Not that many people imo. Kind of defeats the whole compact portable purpose. I still think this is a step in the right direction but I'm hoping Nikon goes further and gives us internal 10-bit, Log & even Raw. We know its technically possible. I'd really like to see Nikon put a strong dent in the market (they deserve it and competition is healthy for all us) but with BMD, Fuji, the S1 & Sony's response I sincerely think it's going to take a little more than external ProRes Raw to do so.

C200 can do RAW to Cfast & 2K proxy to SD.

i'm not quite sure the overuse of super slow-mo shots, cheap pistol gimbals with that floaty effect, "film stock" LUTs, or ultra shallow DoF are the correct answer.. Super35 sensor + Cine lens is a good start imo.. follow with 10-bit log or RAW and you're more than halfway there assuming you know what you're doing!

Camera got slammed by Sony Northrup

I think we have to distinct making tweaks and applying a LUT which is what most of us (myself included) are doing and advanced pro color grading which is a complete artform imo. I got into shooting log & grading mostly out of a necessity because i'm generally unsatisfied with most picture profile in hybrid cameras (aside from Fuji Eterna, Nikon flat) which are often way too sharp/saturated/crushed blacks, need the extra DR and need to fix exposure, wrong camera AWB, color science issues..etc. So I'm usually just trying to get things looking correct and then i might apply a LUT for certain look. I might go full manual if i have the time. I've been experimenting with ACES recently and it looks like it might be a game changer as far as workflow. On a side note, I do wish hyrbids would either allow LUT import in camera or offer more filmic picture profiles for fast turnover projects. Pretty sure Sony has the most complete picture profile settings (a little convoluted though). I also like how in Fuji's you can adjust shadows/highlights. My personal favorite PP is WideDR on Canon's C line.

Such a slap in the face for A9 hybrid shooters. The one feature they've been asking since day 1 and that's available inside their "basic model". This reminds me of the FS5 mark 2 announcement when the only thing they added was a new picture profile (which could have been delivered to FS5 mk1 via firmware). People love to harp on Canon but Sony at times are similar if not worst.

Well Sony has been doing FF 4K without crop since A7SII (2016) and 6K supersampled 4K no crop since A9 (2017) so if anyone is making them look bad its Sony (they supply Nikon & Fuji with their sensors btw). It's painfully obvious Canon are lagging behind in the sensor department. No BSI. No FF 4K. Average DR. As the recent interview on IR confronted them on that, they're only response was "we're aware of it. we're working on it". We'll just have to wait & see. It's certainly an embarrassment at the moment.. Canon are certainly smart about their segmentation though. They've stated upfront EOS R isn't a replacement to their DSLRs & Cine cams but rather a companion to them (hence not pushing for a better sensor than 5DIV/1DX2). Sony are more individualists, they believe in making as many different cams for individual segments (R series, S series, A9, A6..) Nikon seem to follow that approach with the Z6/Z7 (one is more oriented towards video, the other still shooters).

5D4/EOS-R RS in 4K is 31ms. Terrible but yeah not quite A6xxx bad. Canon supposedly has a GS FF sensor in the works. Remains to be seen in what camera line that will appear..

I think the 4K lobby has been pretty successful at this point in time. 4K is like a brand. And youtubers are pretty sensitive to that. RS on the other hand is a technical term which outside these forums very few people probably know/care about. That doesn't mean it shouldn't matter to us but within the intended target audience: 4K > RS.

People can LOL all they want but I think it really takes shooting & working with the EOS R footage to appreciate it.. or not. But until then, a spec sheet isn't going to give you the full picture. And again as part of an ecosystem it makes total sense. We shoot Sony at work and personally, I'm not at all a fan of matching my Canon gear with the A7III etc.. I'd rather rent an FS5/7. And even then its a bit annoying because Sony keep changing their colour science. Canon has done so too but at least gives you the option on EOS R to choose in between original C100/C300 log & the newer C200/C300II log colour matrix. Its little details like that which make life easier. I hate losing time in post with that type of stuff..

sorry i have no idea who they are. i wish i could take bravery credit for watching that but i just scrubbed with my macbook touchbar until i hit that frame. took about 5 seconds.

boy as Andrew said that is one ugly convoluted solution when you think of the self-conscious demographics they are so desperate to appeal towards..

Huh? The RS is considerably worst than A7S (16-24ms) & A7S2 (25ms). It's known to be the absolute worst of the worst at a whopping 36ms. Possibly some kind of record. For the money what else are you going to buy? There are tons of second-hand options.. XT2 to start with. If you want new, save up a little more & buy yourself a decent camera.

Spoken like a true Sony fanboy. This camera is a dud. Sony pulled a Canon by recycling the same 3-year-old sensor that already had issues with its abysmal RS. $100 cut ain't fixing that.

XT3 has AF-C in video. It even does face & eye tracking. I'd buy an XT2 (or XH1 if you need IBIS) over this mess of a camera. Rolling shutter alone (36ms!) makes it a no go, especially for the intended travel/vlog market its intended for. Of course the cluelessness of that demography probably has never heard of RS and will be swayed by the hype/pricing.