fuzzynormal

Beware false prophets.

The Japanese might like it. They love higher frame rates in their motion pictures...

But for the rest of us, Peter Jackson looks to me like he's turning into his generation's George Lucas; employing technology "just because" and that's ultimately detrimental to the storytelling.

Of all the types of narrative genres that benefits from the alternate reality 24fps envokes, you'd think fantasy would be the most logical choice.

I don't get if either. But it hardly looks cheap. The cinematography us too 1st rate professional for that.

However, from what I understand, the shot frame on these films is 48fps which means that distributing it in 24fps for those that prefer it is an easy alternative...on the other hand, the loss of edge motion blur inherent in shooting native 24fps is a shame. I like that effect. Not good for green screen of course, but still that effect offers a great disconnect from "reality."

The fact you can buy an imaging device for $900 that trumps most gear film making masters from the 70's and 60's would have loved to have is incredible.

Look, if you can't do creative stuff with a piece of gear like this, you got the problems, not the camera or lens.

I love technology and equipment too, but if you want to actually do something creative with motion picture making, fretting so much about which camera does this or that the best-- man, it is such a complete waste of time.

Although, to be honest, If you want bragging rights and affirmation that you own the latest and greatest imaging kit, that's something else, I guess. It does seem to be a popular pastime on tech-centric blogs.

I'm just amazed though--and what a wonderful time for real legitimate filmmakers (the ones that actually do stuff) -- for less than 2k one can easily buy a camera, editing system, light kit, and audio package.

What to do with all that capability? Use it or talk about it?

I just don't get this mentality. Get something. Use it. Make things.

The alternative is just... shopping. How's is that any fun?

That's a serious question. I truly don't understand. If anyone wants to try to explain it to me, I'd appreciate it.

I just don't get this mentality. Get something. Use it. Make things.

The alternative is just... shopping. How's is that any fun?

That's a serious question. I truly don't understand. If anyone wants to try to explain it to me, I'd appreciate it.

The fact you can buy an imaging device for $900 that trumps most gear film making masters from the 70's and 60's would have loved to have is incredible.

Look, if you can't do creative stuff with a piece of gear like this, you got the problems, not the camera or lens.

I love technology and equipment too, but if you want to actually do something creative with motion picture making, fretting so much about which camera does this or that the best-- man, it is such a complete waste of time.

Although, to be honest, If you want bragging rights and affirmation that you own the latest and greatest imaging kit, that's something else, I guess. It does seem to be a popular pastime on tech-centric blogs.

I'm just amazed though--and what a wonderful time for real legitimate filmmakers (the ones that actually do stuff) -- for less than 2k one can easily buy a camera, editing system, light kit, and audio package.

What to do with all that capability? Use it or talk about it?

The fact you can buy an imaging device for $900 that trumps most gear film making masters from the 70's and 60's would have loved to have is incredible.

Look, if you can't do creative stuff with a piece of gear like this, you got the problems, not the camera or lens.

I love technology and equipment too, but if you want to actually do something creative with motion picture making, fretting so much about which camera does this or that the best-- man, it is such a complete waste of time.

Although, to be honest, If you want bragging rights and affirmation that you own the latest and greatest imaging kit, that's something else, I guess. It does seem to be a popular pastime on tech-centric blogs.

I'm just amazed though--and what a wonderful time for real legitimate filmmakers (the ones that actually do stuff) -- for less than 2k one can easily buy a camera, editing system, light kit, and audio package.

What to do with all that capability? Use it or talk about it?

The fact you can buy an imaging device for $900 that trumps most gear film making masters from the 70's and 60's would have loved to have is incredible.

Look, if you can't do creative stuff with a piece of gear like this, you got the problems, not the camera or lens.

I love technology and equipment too, but if you want to actually do something creative with motion picture making, fretting so much about which camera does this or that the best-- man, it is such a complete waste of time.

Although, to be honest, If you want bragging rights and affirmation that you own the latest and greatest imaging kit, that's something else, I guess. It does seem to be a popular pastime on tech-centric blogs.

I'm just amazed though--and what a wonderful time for real legitimate filmmakers (the ones that actually do stuff) -- for less than 2k one can easily buy a camera, editing system, light kit, and audio package.

What to do with all that capability? Use it or talk about it?

The fact you can buy an imaging device for $900 that trumps most gear film making masters from the 70's and 60's would have loved to have is incredible.

Look, if you can't do creative stuff with a piece of gear like this, you got the problems, not the camera or lens.

I love technology and equipment too, but if you want to actually do something creative with motion picture making, fretting so much about which camera does this or that the best-- man, it is such a complete waste of time.

Although, to be honest, If you want bragging rights and affirmation that you own the latest and greatest imaging kit, that's something else, I guess. It does seem to be a popular pastime on tech-centric blogs.

I'm just amazed though--and what a wonderful time for real legitimate filmmakers (the ones that actually do stuff) -- for less than 2k one can easily buy a camera, editing system, light kit, and audio package.

What to do with all that capability? Use it or talk about it?

The fact you can buy an imaging device for $900 that trumps most gear film making masters from the 70's and 60's would have loved to have is incredible.

Look, if you can't do creative stuff with a piece of gear like this, you got the problems, not the camera or lens.

I love technology and equipment too, but if you want to actually do something creative with motion picture making, fretting so much about which camera does this or that the best-- man, it is such a complete waste of time.

Although, to be honest, If you want bragging rights and affirmation that you own the latest and greatest imaging kit, that's something else, I guess. It does seem to be a popular pastime on tech-centric blogs.

I'm just amazed though--and what a wonderful time for real legitimate filmmakers (the ones that actually do stuff) -- for less than 2k one can easily buy a camera, editing system, light kit, and audio package.

What to do with all that capability? Use it or talk about it?

I'm too old to give a shit about this.

This is definitely a 'put up or shut up' kind of thread.

Challenges are non stop making a narrative. I just finished a rough cut of a short shot in the Imperial desert as well, and some things just end up half baked...excuse the pun.

I haven't had enough nerve to post it here as I still want to fix a few things, but it's admirable for anyone that is willing to create something and release it into the wild. You gotta start somewhere.

Here's a cheap method and one way to skin this cat:




Ultimately, the easiest way is to get good at it without any gear. Lots of practice.

For a lot of handheld I found one just has to "glide" as much as possible.  
 
I think this is easier for shorter people.  The squat walk.
 
The smoother you are, the smoother the shot is, is that's what you want.  You just kind of learn to hand-hold to the best of your ability.  Other things influence it a lot.  Rig, mass, etc.  Bigger cameras off-the-shoulder are actually better for handheld shots, IMHO.  Maybe that's my broadcasting background bias.  
 
But, for instance, I mounted a lead pipe with a bottom weight to a DSLR camera --and used that mass as a steadying device for a lot of walking sequences.  I wanted the shots to look like they were half way between hand-held and steady cam.
 
Again, just depends what you're going for.  The cinematography in a film like Dallas Buyers Club, or say Bourne Identity, is way more involved than just being handheld, obviously.  It's disciplined movement of the lens in relation to the light and character...even if it's deliberately visually chaotic.

Dancing Taco?

Have you seen my reel from 98? It also had a dancing popcorn shrimp on it.

Upper or lower fields?

When I'm here on this site I feel I'm more akin to the self-proclaimed coffee shop "author" that talks more about his typewriter than the stories he should be composing.
 
What do you do to get motivated and create?
 
I'm wrapped up in some ennui over here.  
 
Too much endless corporate work perhaps?  Not sure.  Making a living, but yearning for something more, so there's a lot of wandering aimlessly around the web.  
 
Basically, as a filmmaker, it's hard to feel productive visiting tech blogs like EOSHD...and for some reason it's a way too common destination/distraction.  Curious that, for lots of reasons.
 
It's great for some simple advice, but honestly there's not a ton of actual filmmaking discussion going on.  I think my gear-porn tendencies are a huge liability as an actual creative. 
 
Augh, how to get off one's ass and get something worthwhile made?

There's not much less impressive than bragging about what editing system is used to cut a motion picture.

It's editing, for goodness sake. Where you splice the cuts matter, not the razor that does it.

There's not much less impressive than bragging about what editing system is used to cut a motion picture.

It's editing, for goodness sake. Where you splice the cuts matter, not the razor that does it.

There's not much less impressive than bragging about what editing system is used to cut a motion picture.

It's editing, for goodness sake. Where you splice the cuts matter, not the razor that does it.

There's not much less impressive than bragging about what editing system is used to cut a motion picture.

It's editing, for goodness sake. Where you splice the cuts matter, not the razor that does it.

Think maybe it's a light leak through the body of the camera somehow?

Hardware hacks probably would be easy.  
 
That's a small sensor though:  5.75 × 4.28 mm.  Even with lenses built for 16mm, 10.26 x 7.49 mm, you'd have some extensive cropping.  
 
And, Ooooooo, what about our precious shallow DOF?  How can we shoot anything without shallow depth of field!  No one these days is allowed to make movies unless the DOF and bokeh is incredible.  I'm pretty sure one's DIY cinematographer's credentials are in danger of being revoked if an aperture is closed down beyond f4. 

Yes, keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.
 
FWIW, you clearly said "the brand which launched the Revolution" (a brand = a business entity, a company, not a single product). A "broad statement" doesn't quite fix that. Your thinly veiled personal insult will not turn a brand into a camera, either. It will only make yourself look pathetic. But choose yourself. 

Anyone that wants it is going to have pro level imaging soon soon soon.

Anyone that wants it is going to have pro level imaging soon soon soon.