thlbeal

Hey Guys,
 
Wondering if anyone who still shoots ML RAW would like to discuss and give suggestions on their workflow?  I've been shooting RAW on my 5d2 with a VAF for a while now, mainly for personal projects.  It's so much work but it's fun for me because there's so much more to play with.  It's intimidating, but that's why I only use it for my own projects, not for any of the freelance work I do.  Right now, I've been using MLRawViewer to view files, and cr2hdr to export to .dng files.  I don't use Resolve, so my workflow is importing each sequence into AE where I grade/apply LUTs, export to ProRes and edit in Premiere.  It's a pain, because once I start sequencing together I notice the subtle differences in the grades.  Then I have to go back to the clips in AE and re-export.  Is there any way to speed this process up?  I tried using dynamic link to edit my first test below, but playback in Premiere with a ton of linked sequences was almost impossible.  Also, what LUTs would you guys recommend?  I've been using visioncolor and they seem to be pretty nice.  I just have a hard time being consistent with my grade when I have to go back to ACR and make subtle tweaks (not knowing what the result will be once the LUT is applied).
 
Thanks for any help!
 

I bought one a couple months ago and I absolutely love it.  I got a 5d2 around a year ago (mainly for work) and wanted to start shooting RAW so I picked up a VAF on eBay for a very fair price.  I switch between video and stills a lot and the biggest problem is remembering to take the thing out when I take pictures.  When I first got a card fast enough for ML RAW, I figured I could "shoot around" the moire and aliasing, but I quickly realized that I NEEDED the VAF if I wanted an acceptable image with RAW on the 5d.  I know some people don't need or use a VAF with a 5d because they use the crop mode which essentially removes the problems.  I don't want to shoot everything with a 3x crop since I use mostly tighter lenses.
Here's my first ML RAW test video with my 5d and the 5D2b, I think it turned out decent (note, I'm not very good at the workflow/color grading) - 
 
-Tom
 

I bought one a couple months ago and I absolutely love it.  I got a 5d2 around a year ago (mainly for work) and wanted to start shooting RAW so I picked up a VAF on eBay for a very fair price.  I switch between video and stills a lot and the biggest problem is remembering to take the thing out when I take pictures.  When I first got a card fast enough for ML RAW, I figured I could "shoot around" the moire and aliasing, but I quickly realized that I NEEDED the VAF if I wanted an acceptable image with RAW on the 5d.  I know some people don't need or use a VAF with a 5d because they use the crop mode which essentially removes the problems.  I don't want to shoot everything with a 3x crop since I use mostly tighter lenses.
Here's my first ML RAW test video with my 5d and the 5D2b, I think it turned out decent (note, I'm not very good at the workflow/color grading) - 
 
-Tom
 

Javier, this is just so cool.  It would be a dream project for me, traveling, filming, music.  So excited to see it!

Still can't beat the Nikon 1 v1 shooting 4k for only....$250! (yes, it's limited to one second but so much fun)
 

 
I still use mine to this day and I actually just licensed this video ^ to Samsung to use for their 4k displays.  Best $250 I ever spent!

Still can't beat the Nikon 1 v1 shooting 4k for only....$250! (yes, it's limited to one second but so much fun)
 

 
I still use mine to this day and I actually just licensed this video ^ to Samsung to use for their 4k displays.  Best $250 I ever spent!

http://youtu.be/m8NKvHR1Kqk

Many thanks for you help, received the V1 today so about to have a little test run. I'm hoping that Twixtor will be able to cope with people walking in the scenery as I imagine a lot of my shots will be just that.

Arthurr I use them both in different situations.  Whenever I'm around water or very fast motion I use the 60 frame/.5 second mode because Twixtor has more to work with when creating new frames.  I'd say just stay away from birds/flying bugs and low light situations.  The regular 30fps works well 80% of the time.  When I use twixtor, I drop my 1 second sequence of RAW files into a 3 second timeline. right click on the sequence -> frame blending -> pixel motion.  Then I use the time remapping in AE to stretch the sequence out to 3 seconds, without actually moving the slider for time remapping (this gives Twixtor a blank slate to work on).  Then I apply Twixtor, change the input frame rate to 30 and the speed to 33.33% (and turn on smart blend).  I usually don't touch the other settings unless the exported clip doesn't look good.  Hope this helps!

My latest (and last) 1 v1 RAW video.
 

Just finished up a new little music video.  All footage was shot through a plane window.
 
https://vimeo.com/69594975

My latest (and last) 1 v1 RAW video.
 

My latest (and last) 1 v1 RAW video.
 

My latest (and last) 1 v1 RAW video.
 

For all three videos, I just used the 10-30 kit lens.  It seemed to work fine, until it got even somewhat dark.  The thing crumbles at dusk.  So much noise is added and it won't focus at all.  It'll lock in the focus fast, and seem correct, but then later when you see the pictures on your computer they'll be incredibly out of focus.
 
 
 
Yeah it is kind of rough trying to make videos that are paced well with the v1.  Before I edit anything I have to twixtor every single burst out to around 3 seconds (this takes days).  I then take a couple hundred of those files and try to edit them together.  3 seconds seems to be the sweet spot, any longer and twixtor seems like it doesn't work as well.  It is pretty jolting sometimes.  

My latest (and last) 1 v1 RAW video.
 

Here's my film for this year's Virgin Media Shorts. I don't think it'll embed so if you want to see it you'll need to follow the link.
 
If you like it, please share on Twitter with #VMShortsVote as they count the shares,
 
Let me know what you think! Has anyone else entered?
 
http://www.virginmediashorts.co.uk/film/5002/messiah#ooid=sxZndkZDq3xJs2shDeKoCPKp_abn8Txh

Hey guys, this is my first post on the forum but I've been keeping up with this topic for a couple weeks.  I decided to snag a used 1 v1 myself (B&H for $250) and I have to admit, I'm kind of in love with it.  Yeah it has many limitations and the workflow is sluggish, but after working with Canon DSLR video (not any of the new RAW stuff) for years, it's truly a breath of fresh air to work with video that looks this good!
 
I made a little test video of some shots over the past week and a half and I'm very pleased with them.  I used Twixtor to slow down the clips to 2-4 seconds.  It worked pretty well about 80% of the time.  You can notice some weird Twixtor motion problems here and there, but I don't really mind because they're not too in-your-face.
 
https://vimeo.com/67656132